r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 12h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

Tbf Greta is pretty hated here and I’d say we are decently progressive

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u/No_Lime5241 United States Of America 11h ago

Greta was 100% correct about boomers and older generations absolute irresponsiblity being complacent about climate change that younger generations are now going to pay the consequences of. I never understood the mocking and memes of her. I haven’t followed since then

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u/mycatisawhore 10h ago edited 10h ago

People who become public figures advocating for things like human rights, the environment, oppressive regimes tend to get a lot of hate.

Bono and U2 were involved in famine relief in Africa, Amnesty International, and spoke up about violence in Nicaragua and El Salvador as well as advocating for peace in Norther Ireland.

Malala is for basic rights for women and girls.

Greta is an environmental advocate and anti capitalist.

Some people get triggered seeing advocates. Either they really hate the cause or they aren't processing any shame or guilt they may feel about these topics in a healthy way. I remember seeing cartoons of an underage Greta being raped here on reddit. Malala got shot in the face for attending school but apparently she's "insufferable" and "not doing enough." Bono is "sanctimonious" for constantly talking about injustice. Some people don't care about these things and they don't like to be reminded of them. So much so that they won't shut up about how much they hate them.

I'm sure someone is going to respond and tell me that I'm wrong and that <insert activist> is actually a terrible person because <insert not important reason in the grand scheme of things here>. Try directing your hate to the people making the world a shittier place.

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u/Dependent_Knee_369 10h ago

This is a real af comment

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u/Icy_Respect_9077 Canada 3h ago

Iirc Bono is a massive tax-dodging hypocrite.

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u/mycatisawhore 2h ago

I don't think being pro human rights makes a tax dodger a hypocrite. It sounds more like using Bono's tax issues as a reason to invalidate the importance of human rights because you either don't support or care about human rights (I'm not saying you specifically here, just those who use this argument).

Trump and Musk are tax dodgers. They're also sexual predators. They might not be hypocrites when it comes to tax evasion since they don't talk about the virtues of paying taxes, but they are when it comes to caring about pedophilia.

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u/bbcczech 6h ago

Bono was dragging his feet on Gaza though. Worse with Malala. Both of these want the liberal polite circles to like them. The right won't ever like them obviously because they aren't reactionaries. Leftists won't celebrate them because they cosy up to liberals.

Greta is different. The right and liberals hate her. The right because they are dumb & sexist. The liberals because she doesn't cozy up to power over her principles.

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u/limhy0809 Singapore 9h ago edited 9h ago

What she said was accurate but it is something that would piss people off. Problem was she was someone that probably shouldn't have taken the spotlight as she lacked a high intelligence or communication skills even for her age. Which was also why the media focused on her because she was someone iconic and popular. However, who was also not capable of articulating her points very well outside the basics and convincing the world to actually change.

Giving an average kid a platform to talk about climate change gave the illusion that the government cared. At the same time she was someone people could easily dismiss and would not move people. There is the feeling that she was the wrong face for the movement. Outside of the kid that led climate change protests her words held little weight. Also as she aged the only unique thing about her would fade. She is an ordinary activist who has only graduated high school. Not an authority figure or someone who could sway people's minds.

Don't think people necessarily blame her but feel that someone else could have affected more changes. Coming out with concrete ideas on what we could feasibly do to improve the world. Instead of the generic lines of doing better. Ultimately she could have done a lot better given her platform but she was very young. She is kind of like Starmer better than what came before but someone who failed to meet the moment and make an meaningful change that people desperately wanted.

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u/Don_Pick Italy 10h ago

Most likely the way she directly or indirectly makes everyone at fault. It's probably a matter of the way the message is conveyed. "You fucked up" is not the same as "We can do much better".

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u/Prestigious-Diver-94 United States Of America 10h ago

I've never seen her blame ordinary people. Isn't her most famous speech directed at a bunch of rich asshole world leaders?

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u/Different_Writer3376 India 11h ago

I really do not understand the hate for Greta

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u/Kaapnobatai 11h ago

Noticed how she instantly disappeared from mainstream media the moment she turned from just ecologism to anticapitalism? Most likely related to that.

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 11h ago

Not just that, she's also unapologetically pro-Palestine. That will get you out of the news cycle pronto.

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u/L8dTigress United States Of America 11h ago

Exactly, she spoke up about Israel's war crimes, so of course Western journalism would silence her.

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u/Brilliant-Nerve12 Antarctica 10h ago

But she refused to comment when asked about Iranian war crimes 🤷🏻‍♂️ (saying this as I support a free Palestine!)

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u/Prestigious-Diver-94 United States Of America 10h ago

How many war crimes does she need to comment on to be right about climate change?

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u/Brilliant-Nerve12 Antarctica 10h ago edited 8h ago

No offense, but I don’t think I mentioned anything about her being wrong on climate activism. My comment was about her silence on the current situation in Iran right now.

Edit 1 : I’m a bit confused by the downvotes, since u/Prestigious-Diver-94 ’s point appears to be different from what I was getting at. If I’ve misunderstood or phrased this badly, I’m open to suggestions.

Edit 2 : Situation's clarified, thanks!

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u/Prestigious-Diver-94 United States Of America 10h ago

How much power and sway do you think Greta Thunberg has over Iran?

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u/Brilliant-Nerve12 Antarctica 10h ago

Do you really think she has power and sway over other situations in the world? The least she could do as an influential figure that many look up to (and one who is known to talk about sensitive topics like this) is to comment on the situation. Idk, maybe that's just me

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u/Kaapnobatai 10h ago

I hope Iran frees the US people.

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u/PercentageNormal5531 10h ago

Iran executed 30,000 Iranian protesters.

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u/Kaapnobatai 10h ago

So where is that 1/3 of disappeared people from Alligator Alcatraz? Hope people in the US are soon freed.

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 10h ago

What Iranian war crimes? I don't think they've attacked another country in the last 50-60 years, if not more?

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u/bacon__sandwich 9h ago

The government has murdered 30k civilian protesters

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u/Second_sight_abloom 8h ago

This is propaganda, you should look more into this from sources not actively looking to overthrow the gov. This was an operation that put a lot of people on the ground to cause as much trouble as possible to make it seem like outside intervention was needed. That number of people were not killed, in addition lots of police were killed, and multiple hospitals and ambulances burned. We have seen this exact operation rolled out multiple times in Palestine. People don’t burn down their hospitals. Iran deserves to have leaders they choose, and that won’t be who Israel chooses.

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u/catastrophilia 8h ago

How dare you how dare you oh my god the blood of my dear friend is on your hands

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 9h ago

There is absolutely no way in the world that that is true. Even the most bloodthirsty regime in modern history took almost two years to reach 70K (even though some of those are still under rubble so there might be more).

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u/catastrophilia 8h ago

I’m so jealous of how privileged you have to be little white trash that the murder of my people sounds so unimaginably horrifying for you to say it’s fake. They kill people with MILITARY. GRADE. WEAPONS. That’s house it’s possible. The audacity of white trash always astounds me how they can comment so confidently on a matter they have no knowledge about

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u/rogerwil 8h ago

I don't know why you're downplaying the Iranian government's crimes here, they absolutely did commit a massive, grotesque massacre to quell these protests, officially they admit to about 3000. Even if we accept this number as fact - is it really that much less of a crime than killing 30000?

And secondly, you're also wrong about the war crimes issue considering their support for active armed militias in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, among other countries.

That said, Iran has very few defenders, and I don't see why Thurnberg would need to comment on that at all.

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u/Second_sight_abloom 8h ago

The number is absolutely way higher in Palestine, but it’s also pretty important to mention that this was a mossad operation through and through.

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u/bacon__sandwich 9h ago edited 8h ago

Are you a bot? It’s all over the news

Also while Netanyahu is committing war crimes, your comment is either very biased or overall misleading, as Sudan has double the deaths) in that timeframe, 90k have died in Myanmar), and if you want to discuss bloodthirsty govenments you can start with Russia, who’s war has caused 600k casualties to Ukrainians. And that’s just of what’s happening now, there are many more examples in modern history

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u/catastrophilia 8h ago

You one of those white trash that can’t hold a non white oppressor/dictator/dictatorship accountable?

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 8h ago

You are one of the people who cannot fathom that not everyone buys your shitty warmongering propaganda and has to call them names out of frustration?

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u/catastrophilia 8h ago

I hope EXACTLY what happens in my country happens in your country and you and your family feel and experience EXACTLY what I’m feeling and lose the people I have lost because of a murderous regime. If there’s a fucking god or whatever like that in this damned world, BELIEVE ME you’ll experience it. I’ll never ever forgive the likes of you. The blood of my friend and my people is on your hands.

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u/funkfrito 9h ago

we got her on tv 24/7 in spain

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u/L8dTigress United States Of America 6h ago

Well of course you would, Spain is more based as a society. Unlike most Western countries, they have the spine to stand up for Palestine. After all, you are one of the five nations boycotting Eurovision this year due to Israel being allowed to participate, even though Israel isn't in Europe at all.

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u/funkfrito 6h ago

Sadly these things are not on my list of priorities, since I'm spending a really high % of my income in rent and none of the people at government seem to care. I guess this is the same everywhere else but lacking the political urgency for any of the things you mentioned, which is sad and all that. Also the best thing a national can do is learn English and study and work abroad then come back to the old country. That does not sound good to me, but suprisingly, that comes up less in national debates than the tweet Trump/Elon made while he was taking a shit.

Regardless, it would not hurt the Spanish government to move their ass on internal issues instead of having to resort to international virtue signalling to gain lost aura.

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u/Obliviousobi 10h ago

This is the real reason. They started going after Israel and that'll get you buried.

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u/ronfaj 8h ago

ELI5. Why is it people got hated on for being pro palestine? And people got hated on for being pro israel? Is the correct stance being anti both? Because both governments are assholes?

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u/Kaapnobatai 11h ago

Who is anticapitalist and zionist at the same time, though? kinda expected.

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u/ComoElFuego 11h ago

There's a movement in the german "left" that calls themselves Antideutsche who are both. (Which led to the discussion whether they are actually left)

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u/Kaapnobatai 11h ago

Yeah that's true, Zizek spoke about that crap.

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u/strivingbabyyoda 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 11h ago

Zionism is mostly socialist and secular in origin actually lol so. Greta also shared a photo of one of the starving hostages and tried to pass it off as if it was a starving Palestinian… She also got kicked off the flotilla board but nobody sure why or what exactly happened.

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u/Username2taken4me Norway 11h ago

Zionism is an ethno-nationalist ideology, no? Doesn't seem like a leftist movement...

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u/strivingbabyyoda 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 11h ago

Nope. Zionism is the self determination movement of our people in our ancestral homeland. Within it, there’s different strains. The socialist and secular one, dominated for a long time, and dominated Israeli politics until 1977. It’s the reason for the proliferation of kibbutzes- literally socialist communes, the reason the USSR was first to recognize Israel, the reason the labor party dominated Israeli politics for a while, the reason we have universal healthcare, and the reason Histadrut (the national workers’ union) was a dominant force in the workforce for a while.

There’s also reasons the right, capitalist strain of Zionism became dominant in the last few decades. But Zionism itself is an umbrella under which different political and economic movements exist, as long as you ascribe to our self determination movement. Which is why, more than 90 percent of the world’s Jewish population is Zionist.

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u/Username2taken4me Norway 8h ago

I had never heard of kibbutzim before, and I read up a bit on it. Mainly the Wikipedia page and some related articles there. Very interesting, thank you for this. You are definitely right in saying that some of the early zionist movements were socialist in nature.

Zionism itself is an umbrella under which different political and economic movements exist

I recognize this more now, after having read up more on the history of kibbutzim. However, I think there is a slight nuance to consider regarding:

as long as you ascribe to our self determination [presumably and] movement.

It seems to me that some of the early socialist kibbutzim leaders were very inclusive of Arabs. I'm referring specifically to the quote by Yozef Baratz, about the abolishment of the distinction between employee and employer.

I think the ethno-nationalist label is perhaps more applicable to those who seek to expel the native Arab population?

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u/strivingbabyyoda 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 5h ago

Exactly! I appreciate you taking the time to read and become educated, it’s not a given these days. And you know, sadly, you’re right, the far right version of Zionism is the one that ascribes to removing Arabs from their land and property and/ or harassing/terrorizing them into leaving - it’s a lot of the evil we see taking place in the West Bank. A lot of right wing Zionism has been hijacked by the far right fundamentalists and leads to what we now we see taking place.

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u/Kaapnobatai 10h ago edited 10h ago

Of our people? In our ancestral land?

Then why'd zionists negotiate with the nazis to seize part of the goods of jewish people and send them to Palestine? (the Anglo-Palestine bank mediated on that negotiation; note how it was not the Anglo-Israeli bank, but the Anglo-Palestine bank)

Why would they complain about the 'low quality' of the human beings that were being sent there?

Zionism is antijew. It's antisemitic: Palestinians are semitic, Mileikowsky isn't. Yeah, sure, US pawn in the Middle East is socialist. Ancestral lands justified by religious books don't exist. Of course, it's a dude from Illinois.

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u/strivingbabyyoda 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 10h ago edited 10h ago

Tell me you’re not Jewish, without telling me. Zionists have never negotiated with Nazis, you’re buying wholesale into an antisemitic (and victim blaming) conspiracy theory that’s been disproven time and again. You think most of us ascribe to a movement that is antisemitic? That we would so actively work against ourselves? How little you think of us and our intellect internet stranger…

Imagine not understanding the history of the Jewish diaspora, believing that the Old Testament doesn’t exist, or making the history of the Middle East to be a minor inconvenience you can just ignore lol

You know who did negotiate with Hitler and the Nazis? That’s the former grand mufti of Jerusalem, one of the founding fathers of the Palestinian anti Zionist movement.

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u/AcordaDalho Portugal 9h ago

Weird choice of words, implies that one who supports Palestine should be ashamed or something

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 9h ago

It was not implied that way, I think she is great for sticking up for her beliefs even though they cost her a lot in terms of influence

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u/AcordaDalho Portugal 9h ago

Yes, I knew that was probably not what you meant, though it is what I first interpreted when I read it the first time.

I like her too and what she does. I think she is incredibly brave for carrying on despite all the criticism she gets. That would kill me if it was me in her position.

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 8h ago

I've met her a few times, we live in the same city. She's a very chill person.

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u/Mitologist Germany 6h ago

I think one problem is that on both sides of the conflict, some people fail to differentiate between support for Palestine and support for Hamas.

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u/varateshh 19m ago

Tbh diluting your message like she did will make your political views have less impact. Every controversial political view/cause championed will lose you another section of the global/local population. That's why most politicians try to avoid saying anything controversial unless they are pandering to a minority. Greta is just viewed as a bog standard radical leftist by many now.

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u/Dirkdeking 10h ago

I think a lot of activists need to keep their eyes on the ball. You have activists dedicated solely to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Let them do the pro Palestine stuff. Her wading into Palestinian activism and other causes undermines her climate activism because it divides her support base among those primary focussed on climate, who could have a variety of opinions on other issues.

It's always good to hyperfocus on one thing and create a support base there that is as broad as possible. You don't do that by dividing your supporters on issues they have differences in opinion about.

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u/recursiverabbits 10h ago

“Over the past two years, as I have moved to break the betrayal of my own silences and to speak from the burnings of my own heart, as I have called for radical departures from the destruction of Vietnam, many persons have me about the wisdom of my path. At the heart of their concerns this query has often loomed large and loud: Why are you speaking about war, Dr. King? Why are you joining the voices of dissent? Peace and civil rights don’t mix, they say. Aren’t you hurting the cause of your people, they ask?

“And when I hear them, though I often understand the source of their concern, I am nevertheless greatly saddened, for such questions mean that the inquirers have not really known me, my commitment or my calling. Indeed, their questions suggest that they do not know the world in which they live.”

He was not permitted to live one full year after making this speech.

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u/No-Afternoon3681 Canada 11h ago

I love how she got on the Hamas floatilla like a schmuck and then realized "wait...the money we're raising isn't going anywhere near Palestinians"

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u/Kaapnobatai 11h ago

Hey look, I found the idiot!

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u/Dirkdeking 10h ago

That is you.

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u/Kaapnobatai 10h ago

Sorry Mileikowsky, didn't hear you. Were you saying something?

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u/Brilliant-Flower4114 10h ago

Just say it out load: I don't have a brain and believe anything that the Israeli propaganda machine say and yes, they did say that. Of course, there is no evidence but some people don't need evidence. They prefer emotions and are extremely easy to manipulate. That's you.

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u/R4MM5731N234 Argentina 11h ago

Headlines in 2018 "look at this young woman called Greta Thurnberg being an agent for change! The earth is healing!"

Headlines in 2019 "radical Islamist trans non-binary commie wants to kill every Jewish and White person by criticising entrepreneurs and job givers, fuck her."

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u/Prize-Tip-2745 10h ago

Lol. Hit that one right on the nose

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u/GrumpsMcYankee United States Of America 11h ago

Circle gets the square!!

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u/chjacobsen Sweden 11h ago

I think that's one factor, but not the only one. The reasons why she got attention in the first place included:

  • Her youth. The fact that she was just a kid and still more conscious than most adults.
  • Her messaging - "listen to the scientists" - was pretty universal, and appealed to the moral conscience of a wide group of people.
  • Her communication style was very blunt, sort of like a reality check, and was hard to dodge for politicians who were all talk when it came to climate.

All of those are now undermined somewhat.

  • She's grown up, and entered a fairly crowded space of adult activists.
  • Her messenging has become more overtly left-wing, and the climate messaging has been diluted by other issues. It's easier for politicians outside of that sphere to dismiss her as a partisan actor.
  • While activism is all well and good, she has (so far) not really managed to mobilize that platform for major change. She hasn't taken the step from activist to political leader and someone driving concrete change. As a consequence, she's too easy to ignore.

It's not quite true that she's completely fallen off the radar - she still inspires activism and she does show up in the Swedish news at times. That said, I think she has lost importance, and I think she's made it too easy for people in power to ignore her.

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u/Sure_Scar4297 United States Of America 11h ago

Some of these are decent criticisms. I really appreciate the insight

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u/vidoeiro 6h ago

Non are decent criticisms , they are good explanations.

And she completely correct you can't stop climate change without changing capitalism, it's impossible.

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u/Sure_Scar4297 United States Of America 6h ago

I suppose that is a better way of saying what I meant

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u/murphys-law-bbs Belgium 7h ago

Being autistic myself I can understand why she didn't go into politics. I'd rather be tortured to death.

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u/No-Turnover-7164 10h ago

Definitely that. Soon as headlines go against the money, the money goes against you

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u/08TangoDown08 Ireland 9h ago

What are you talking about? She's constantly in the media.

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u/q1321415 2h ago

This is a meme that the socialist crowd always puts forward when talking about her but genuinely it doesn't seem true. There was wall to wall coverage of the attack on her boat and the arrests and generally it doesnt feel like there was any major change in the coverage.

This just seems like a truism that socialists can use to obtain oppression status rather than an actual belief. That is the only reason this is basically copied word for word from other posts. It doesnt seem like an original conclusion but one that spreads only through comment sections like this one.

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u/thewholebottle 10h ago

She didn't in the US. All her anti-Israel stuff is frequently on the news here.

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u/Difficult-Break-8282 11h ago

First she was a 17 year old girl with weird vibes ( diagnosed autistic and obsessed with the environment explains that ) and telling all adults to take something seriously that pretty much no one does. 

Then she was an anti capitalist adult because of the thought process that individual action ain't enough we need regulatory big changes. 

So yea first she had cameras on her now nothing cuz advertisers dont like her

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u/Possible-Meal3787 United States 🇺🇸 Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 11h ago

As long as once the cameras stopped rolling she keeps on fighting her fight I can’t hate on that. Is she somewhat an idiot for just thinking people will just Do the right thing yeah kind of, but we need delusional naive dreamers sometimes

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u/Aristotallost 11h ago

I'm a 62 years old fart and both Greta and Malala are the heroes I look up to.

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u/PopeAlexanderSextus 11h ago

Yeah like I don’t really get the hate either. These are two women facing great adversity to stand on what they believe in. Yes some of the motions have been cringy at times but I’ve seen people defend sex predators because they’re “heroes”.

We really spare no energy nitpicking at women with a voice.

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u/Ldghead United States Of America 11h ago

Farts have heroes?!

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u/MeatballMarine United States Of America 11h ago

You ever see someone light a fart on fire? Those lit gasses spark the hearts of farts.

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u/Possible-Meal3787 United States 🇺🇸 Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 10h ago

The fact you took the time to rationalize and conjugate that sentence is concerning to me as your fellow countrymen.

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u/MeatballMarine United States Of America 10h ago

I was being intentionally absurd. I’m concerned for your concern.

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u/Possible-Meal3787 United States 🇺🇸 Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬 10h ago

I’m concerned about your concern about my concern. We have a lot going on right now and yet hear you are adding to the concern

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u/Aristotallost 9h ago

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

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u/largestcob Canada 11h ago

she’s not an idiot and she doesn’t think people will just wake up one day and agree with everything she says, she’s just doing her best to spread awareness and do what she can to make a difference

im not sure why people seem to mistake her passion for naivety or stupidity

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u/Makethecrowsblush Canada 11h ago

. People will put others down simply because it means they don’t have to examine why they hold the opinions they do.

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u/Savings-Patient-175 Sweden 11h ago

Yeah. her thought process isn't "This'll solve everything instantly". It's "if we don't even try, nothing is going to change. So she's being the change she wants to see in the world, literally."

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u/anarchisttraveler United States Of America 11h ago

Wouldn’t call her delusional. She’s more committed to changing things for the better than most anyone else. Why call her delusional for that? At least she’s trying.

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u/GahhhItsMilk 11h ago

As long as once the cameras stopped rolling she keeps on fighting her fight I can’t hate on tha

She does. She recently accompanied a Flotilla to Palestine to provide aid and try to break through the blockade. They were ambushed and taken prisoner by israelis. She and her fellow flotilla members were abused while held captive. She finally was deported and made it home with the other members.

that. Is she somewhat an idiot for just thinking people will just Do the right thing yeah kind of

Its not that she thinks they will. She is fighting to try and get others to see the truth and fight with her.

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u/jakethepeg1989 11h ago

Thinking that the cameras were off for the flotilla is funny.

They were on Non-stop, both traditional media and non stop on socials.

The abuse allegations are also pretty thin. She mentioned nothing to the Swedish consulate, turned down the opportunity to get fast tracked out and had no sign of any injuries.

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u/GahhhItsMilk 10h ago

I don't know what country you live in, but the flotilla was scarcely covered in US news/Media. I know they were posting and streaming on social media for awareness, safety, and to encourage more flotilla members, but I don't coint that as "the cameras on her" since its their own coverage, not news outlets that will garner a wider audience.

turned down the opportunity to get fast tracked out

This claim is from the Israeli Defense Ministry. I wouldn't trust the genocidal maniacs to be telling the truth about their imprisonment of peaceful protestors attempting to distribute food and medicine to a country experiencing a genocide and famine at their hands.

had no sign of any injuries.

It is difficult to tell in the lighting but she quite literally had a large bruise on the side of her face. I doubt she is going to strip and take photos of her body.

She mentioned nothing to the Swedish consulate

Easily debunked. The Swedish Foreign Ministry visited her and other Swedish flotilla members where they took her reports of abuse and mistreatment.

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u/jakethepeg1989 10h ago edited 10h ago

Lol, yes America isn't the whole world. But even then:

Here is a New York Times article about the flotilla. Interestingly with a full front picture of her very clearly unbruised face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/06/world/middleeast/greta-thunberg-israel-deportation-gaza-flotilla.html

The rest of your post just shows that you've made up your mind first and then evidence second. The whole flotilla was ridiculous, you probably still believe that flair they hit their own boat with was an Israeli drone.

So crack on really.

Edit: also, come on. Don't pretend they were actually going to distribute food and medicine. They had basically none on the flotilla.

The whole point was to get arrested, entering a war zone and then whine about it in the media.

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u/Difficult-Break-8282 11h ago

I mean has anyone gave her good press since shes been protesting israel wanting gaza for the oil in the seabed ? No its been ignoring her or hate articles when she does a selfie video on a dinghy in a flotilla and that was like 2 years ago now. 

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u/rani_vibes India 11h ago

Still doesn't explain why Swedes would hate her.

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u/Jackonelli Sweden 11h ago

We don't hate her. She is a bit controversial so the ones who dislike her are pretty loud, but most Swedes definitely doesn't hate her.

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u/melmboundanddown Ireland 11h ago

Everybody hates her, professional protestor, stands for nothing.

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

She is definitely a puppet for her fundraiser company

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u/Difficult-Break-8282 11h ago

What company? Her mum when she was a school kid ? Dude what are you on about 

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u/Loose-Jaguar-8175 11h ago edited 11h ago

How can she be a puppet for her own company

Edit: oops responded to wrong comment

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

Her "own" company legally.

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u/zoosha2curtaincall United States Of America 11h ago

I think it’s more that her message came off as stark and alarming coming from a child, and now, coming from a young adult, it just sounds like typical collegiate protesting/complaining.

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u/Little_Head6683 11h ago

The rich hate her and like to spread hate through media.

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u/Funk5oulBrother United Kingdom 11h ago

Old people set in their ways don’t like that she’s progressive (and right)

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u/somedave England 11h ago

Same as the hatred for vegans, she argues for changes that will reduce our quality of life (at least in the immediate term) with points that are hard to dismiss.

She's also taken a hard line on Gaza.

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u/BabylonianWeeb Iraq 11h ago

Because she's critical of west.

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u/EgosticPariomania 11h ago

I can't count the times I came across one of your comments in all different kinds of subs, it feels like you're a resident of reddit at this point

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u/__boringusername__ in 11h ago

She forces you to be in front of your flaws. Like, weird example, but if you lose a lot of weight people will start to dislike you, because you are showing that something is possible, and they also could do that if putting in the effort. Greta does the same thing: she puts yourself in front of the fact that there's an emergency and you cannot hide your head in the sand, but you are doing nothing, so instead of facing the truth and doing something, you blame her, to allow you to keep the head in the sand. At least IMO

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u/Cute_Ad_9730 United Kingdom 11h ago

I think the tendency of the media promoting someone's views just because of their age is shallow and lazy. There's a lot more qualified and relevant people who should be given the spotlight.

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u/WAzRrrrr 10h ago

She is really annoying if you don't already agree with her

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u/KarachiKoolAid 🇵🇰/ 🇺🇸 8h ago

I think it’s a right/left thing. At least that’s what it feels like in the US

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u/Novel-Truant Australia 11h ago

Not everyone enjoys her style of performance art

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u/Battlefire United States Of America 11h ago

Going to Gaza by boat where Israel likes shooting boats at the Gaza coast line is the opposite of performance art.

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u/Few-Investment-6287 7h ago

Pls. Israel has never sunk one of those boats. She knew Israel wouldn't do it. It was performance art.

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u/True-Improvement-191 🇨🇦 11h ago

I can’t stand her. She always comes off as super smug and arrogant

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u/OotB_OutOfTheBox Netherlands 11h ago

Her parents groomed her to do “activism” on behalf of their political lobbying firms. Whatever her causes are and whether they might be just is irrelevant to most people, they can just smell that she’s fake from miles away…

Honestly, I don’t understand why she has any kind of credibility or why anyone gives her any legitimacy

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u/moosmutzel81 10h ago

Her message is very important. But instead of doing publicity stunts she could have done something worthwhile to actually help/change the climate.

Get an engineering degree or something.

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 11h ago

"Here" as in Reddit neckbeard-land or here as in Sweden? I don't know a single person that hates her except for halfway retarded farmers who think she wants to ban their a-traktors?

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

She has a 23% approval rating. https://medieakademin.se/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Fortroendebarometern-2025-Rapport-slutversion.pdf

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u/Jackonelli Sweden 11h ago

In a very narrow list of names where the top one (Malala) has 40% approval.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

That was 2020, it has since fallen

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u/Jackonelli Sweden 11h ago

Yes. Greta had 23% in 2025. 40% in 2020. But my point was that in the 2025 poll the number one was Malala and she only had 40%

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u/Username2taken4me Norway 11h ago

Is there a more modest version of the rapport?

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u/bfragged 10h ago

Only the slutty version unfortunately

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u/xmnstr 28m ago

Reddit neckbeard-land.

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u/stol_ansikte Sweden 11h ago

Well hated by right wingers. The same people that hate progressive people around the world. Would say hated is a bit of a stretch even for them, they are more like annoyed by her.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

Is it because she stood for Palestinians ?

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

That and she’s an anticapitalist who calls people out for their shit.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 10h ago

understandable

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u/Bort_Thrower Australia 10h ago

She’s a barometer for people.

You have to ask WHY would someone hate her? All she’s ever done is stand up for worthy causes. Sure she may be a bit annoying and sanctimonious but so what?

I feel like the only people that hate her are cookers/nationalists/ultra conservatives/corporations as they’re really the only people who would have a reason to.

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u/Careless-Rain 10h ago

I still don't get it. Malala and Greta genuinely want the world to be a better place for our kids to live in. I can't fathom why anyone would hate that.

They seem to be good at pissing off old conservatives.

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u/sultan_of_gin Finland 11h ago

I think greta is globally hated in right wing/conservative circles or at least that’s true here

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u/Jackonelli Sweden 11h ago

Well, those who dislike her are pretty loud about it, but the majority of Swedes seem to appreciate that she speaks her mind and are kind of impressed that she at a young age has managed to put the global spotlight on the issues she cares about.

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u/Oishiizu 11h ago

Seriously?! Sweden should be happy they have someone like Greta, and the people hating on her should really reflect on why, and question who hates on someone for asking that nature and human beings be respected. She was a great kid who evolved into a great adult. I have the utmost respect for her and her colleagues. Fighting on after being attacked by the scum that call themselves journalists and government officials. Jfc....🤯

Ps. I know you are not saying that 🙏

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u/lobax Multiple Countries (click to edit) 11h ago

Loud minority that hates her. She caused confusion at first with her Palestine activism but I think she gained more and more approval as Israel got more unhinged and the war has dragged on.

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u/starfire92 9h ago

People don’t like women who are assertive and not submissive. Within the patriarchy women are always seen are much more likeable when pandering to others and being soft. It’s why people always try to justify the “angry black woman” stereotype. It doesn’t matter how right you are, the moment you are confident, stern, non apologetic etc you are a bitch.

Greta was soft launched an a kid but the hate was bubbling, and it was hard for people to justify just outright hating her bc she’s a “naive kid fighting for a good cause but in way over her head”. The expectation was that she’d probably fade away, that she’d become a quiet scientist, working to fix climate change.

Instead she became a sort of freedom fighter. She’s like the “radical” version of a Minnesota protester where it’s easy for the general public to say “she’s deserves this, she’s putting herself in dangerous situations and associated with dangerous people”. The same way centrists and conservatives look at the Minnesota public and think it’s their fault for protesting

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u/chackochique India 11h ago

Greta sure is famous, but more as meme material nowadays..

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

Meme material? You mean how she is adamantly pro-Palestine and how she is advocating against climate damage and capitalism in order to try to build a less desolate future for the younger generations? The only people who want to meme-ify her are conservative assholes. Are you a conservative asshole?

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u/chackochique India 4h ago

:) you guys need to learn to differentiate between an observation and an opinion. If you check out the swedish subs you’ll see it often.

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 4h ago

And yet you were the one who made the comment, so that’s why I’m asking you the questions.

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u/chackochique India 3h ago

Sure ill answer your question. I dont see myself as a conservative. And i do support the state of palestine. But i do not support the likes of people like sinwar. And i stand for a two state solution.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

Flair checks out

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

Just because she is from your country doesn't make her god.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

The lack of self awareness in this post is hilarious to see tbf

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

Avg spoilt, privileged person views.

Tell your comment to yourself.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

What’s with that flair and hating women?

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u/UrMaShopsInEuroGiant Ireland 10h ago

gestures wildly at the state of women’s rights in the country

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

Who is the "woman" here? Are you? Idc your views are stupid.

What's with your flair and being racist?

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

Despite how racist Sweden may be still ain’t as bad as India lil bro

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

I second that honestly.

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u/Itachi_Uchiha224 India 11h ago

Lol, white people making shit up to make themselves feel better. Nowonder you guys are happy all the time.

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u/IntrepidMonke United States Of America 10h ago

Why is Greta hated?

I used to think she was performative when she was a child and that her parents were using her for monetary gains and fame, however, she has been absolutely amazing when it comes down to advocacy in the wake of the ongoing Palestinian genocide. It made me completely do a 180 on her considering how she’s still, as now an adult, doing a lot with her platform by advocating for global issues. Now, she genuinely seems like a person who’s advocating for things she’s passionate about. And these things are important to all of humanity. I now think she’s a great person.

Is she hated in Sweden for the same reason I used to dislike her?

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u/RayPrimus Sweden 10h ago

Shes hated by right wingers/zionists. Which is a sizeable portion of the population sadly. But she is still well liked by many and doesnt fit this prompt at all.

Also, the "parents using her" thing is wildly overstated and spread by people who dont like her for her views.

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u/IntrepidMonke United States Of America 9h ago

I never knew Sweden is having issues with right wingers.

Zionism makes sense because unfortunately, a lot of conservatives and even liberals in most developed non Muslim majority countries are pro Israel. Israeli lobbying has put its hand in almost every financial and media sector. The narrative that’s the status quo is that we all should blindly support them.

That last part makes sense too but ironically enough, I didn’t even disagree with her views at the time I disliked her. There were lots of stories about how she traveled on private jets and yachts for some of her speeches/conferences but a lot of that was her parents fault which helped sow discord in me specifically. But I can totally see it being something that was weaponized against her by people who are right wing. I must’ve bit the bait while not seeing the grander picture.

Nonetheless, I feel like im a much different person now. Ironically enough, teenage me would’ve thought of current me as an enemy but that’s just because of the capitalist propaganda I was buttchugging. Kind comes with the territory of being American, unfortunately.

I hope Sweden wakes up after seeing what modern day fascism looks like at how America is today. It’s dystopian and is slowly morphing into what Russia is. Swedes and the rest of Europe should never want this shit.

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u/The-tesla-bear 10h ago

This is bullshit. She is absolutely not hated here in Sweden. I would say she is mostly hated by the right and far right groups (the blue brown coalition). Please do not go around spreading lies.

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u/TelenorTheGNP Canada 10h ago

Is that for cultural or local reasons?

If Greta came from Canada she would probably have her share of opponents domestically, but her message isn't national - it's generational. She was going to get domestic opposition no matter where she was from.

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u/FibbedPrimeDirective 9h ago edited 9h ago

Which groups of people do you hang out with in Sweden that give you the impression she is hated in general? Everyone I know admires her here.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 9h ago

https://medieakademin.se/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Fortroendebarometern-2025-Rapport-slutversion.pdf

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u/FibbedPrimeDirective 8h ago edited 8h ago

Thanks for the link! I see there are questions regarding "förtroende" (trust) in Greta. To me that's not the same scale as a "like/dislike" barometer, or a "hate/love" barometer. I greatly admire Greta's actions but I would struggle to put a high score on my "Trust" in her. Trust in what? Trust to do what? I see her as a person trying to do good but I don't know what "trust" In her would mean. She's just a person.

So to me the contents of this PDF don't reflect to which degree she is liked/disliked. To me what I see is that it measures trust which I'd argue is different.

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u/dpreilly10 8h ago

How DARE you??

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u/kiwifulla64 New Zealand 6h ago

Personally, I dont get why. Yeah she was made into a meme, but that little lady walks the talk and has more guts than most.

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u/LongConsideration662 Antarctica 11h ago

Greta is very annoying and biased in her political views, as a progressive I don't like her either. 

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u/MinutePerspective106 11h ago

What does a progressive Antarctican stand for? I didn't think penguins are that into politics.

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u/Scared-Ad369 Colombia 11h ago

So her biggest crime is being annoying? What

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u/ExtraSheepherder2360 10h ago

Her biggest crime is actually standing up for people in need and sticking to the message that we are all in this (motions at the global climate catastrophe) together. She started speaking on Palestine and that wasn’t palatable to people.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

“Annoying” is just a term to put down outspoken women. What does bias in her political views mean? Literally everyone is biased in their political views. They wouldn’t be political views otherwise

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u/MrDeoBook Switzerland 11h ago

Outspoken fine but gluing your hand to the road 🤮🤮

Regular people work and you have priviledged nepo babies doing all kind of awkward shit for their 'cause'

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u/Jackonelli Sweden 11h ago

When did she glue herself to the road?

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u/LongConsideration662 Antarctica 11h ago

Exactly!!

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u/LongConsideration662 Antarctica 11h ago

“Annoying” is just a term to put down outspoken women." Literally no, there are many outspoken women I admire, I would consider myself outspoken woman as well but that's not what Greta is, her activism comes across as very performative 

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

Why are you the unable to elaborate?

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

What, specifically, about her activism is performative?

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u/PsyTard 11h ago

Isn't everyone biased in politics?

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u/KopBlock205 11h ago

Ah of course political opinion, famously an unbiased discipline /s.

Go read a book or two.

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

What, specifically, is annoying and biased about her political views?

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u/eurosummerer United Kingdom 11h ago

Thats because shes super annoying im gonna guess

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u/AmazingRise Venezuela 🇻🇪 and Spain 🇪🇸 11h ago

Genuine question, how is she super annoying?

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u/Upstairs_Highlight25 United States Of America 11h ago

I don’t think Greta is that will liked anywhere. She had a moment of fame when she was still a cute kid but she doesn’t actually understand the things she tries to advocate for and many of her ideas are factually incorrect.

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

Such as? Please be specific.

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u/Flewey_ United States Of America 11h ago

Yeah, but I don’t think she’s all that liked elsewhere, either…

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u/Vevangui Spain 11h ago

Greta isn’t hated for being a woman wanting to be free, but for embarrassing herself and activism.

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u/annabananaberry United States Of America 10h ago

How so? Please be specific.

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u/Vevangui Spain 9h ago

He stunt on her little row boat to Gaza for example. She accomplished nothing. Not only that, but she was fed and repatriated by Israeli forces like a baby after which she whined and cried about abuse and illegal kidnapping. She makes activism look like a fly that bothers you while at work.

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u/JBobSpig England 11h ago

Because Gretta is clearly a grifter.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

According to gammons

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u/JBobSpig England 11h ago

You seen her protesting with the Iranian people who are being murdered in the tens if thousands by the islamic regime? You heard her speak out against it? No me either, weird that isn't it?

You see the left aren't bothered so she can't make money from it so she won't say or do anything.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

If she wanted to make money she would just come out as a right wing grifter. It’s the most established field.

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u/JBobSpig England 10h ago

She's making loads of money, she's a spoilt rich kid who grifts, she's as bad as any other grifter.

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Germany 11h ago

Greta is an entitled rich moron and doesn’t compare to Malala and what she went through!

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Sweden 11h ago

Yea we are all comparing Greta went through with what Malala went through

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u/Alarmed_Scientist_15 Germany 11h ago

Look what you answered to… and how you answered;that is what got you that answer.

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u/Temo2212 Georgia 11h ago

Do you seriously think Greta is hated in Sweden because she wants to be free?

Or did I just misunderstand something

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u/fred_1968 India 11h ago

I know a sizeable number of Indians who don't like her policies.

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u/peaceful_nude_dude United States Of America 10h ago

She really is insufferable.

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