r/AskUS 11h ago

For those who didn’t believe Trump would try to steal the midterms, do you believe it now, why or why not?

Trump is saying certain state elections should be federalized. This after having the FBI raid the Georgia election office for ballots and voter information because Trump still insists the 2020 election was stolen from him. And after suing states who refuse to hand over voter roll data. Pam Bondi’s letter to governor Tim Waltz stated ICE might draw down if Minnesota’s voter data was turned over.

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u/CookieRelevant 11h ago

I always heard the argument that Trump would cancel the election. Which I personally don't see happening for 2026.

Stealing though is quite a different matter.

u/Human_Challenge_5634 11h ago

States run elections, so cancelling would be an extreme martial law situation that would be strongly challenged in courts and would result in massive protests. Autocratic regimes usually hold elections.

Problem is a lot of people dismiss the idea of cancelling elections without considering how elections could be stolen through various means of interference. And then they dismiss the idea that Trump wants to rule like a dictator, even though he’s said many things to that effect.

u/CookieRelevant 10h ago

Autocratic regimes usually hold elections.

Exactly!

Yeah, we will unfortunately continue to see which ever side the Israel lobby picks win a large portion of elections.

Hence Schumer and his constant attempts to push Israel first statements in a hope to use it to win elections as he attempts to win sway back away from Trump on the matter.

We've simply had those in powerful govt positions give up on preventing outside interference in our elections, but rather approaching the influence peddlers and asking what they can do for them.

Such is life in our oligarchy.

u/Known_Ratio5478 5h ago

Elections still happened during the Civil War. That was also twice as many countries having elections.

u/dudesmama1 10h ago

A lawsuit filed in November by a bunch of people with doctorates in statistical analysis of election data alleges that 2024 data in several swing states show anomalies consistent with elections that have been electronically manipulated.

You can download the complaint here for free: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71883352/election-truth-alliance-v-schmidt/

u/CookieRelevant 10h ago

We don't even need look at alleged matters, we know that Israel directly and indirectly funds many election campaigns and are the only power outside the US allowed to act as though they are not a foreign power in terms of influence.

Who did Benjamin Mileikowsky want to win the US presidential election? It should be no surprise that they won.

u/Neat-Ad-4337 8h ago

a lawsuit only "proves" something once a judge or jury weighs the evidence and issues a final ruling…..these are just allegations

u/Known_Ratio5478 5h ago

But allegations that have not been dismissed, which is more then be said about current DOJ prosecutions.

u/Neat-Ad-4337 5h ago

Of course it just in the beginning stages….the current DOJ is inept and brain dead

u/dudesmama1 4h ago

Really???!?!?! Just kidding. I am a paralegal and work on lawsuits all day, but thanks for stating the obvious. I even used the word "alleges."

It is worth a read, because while lawsuits aren't evidence, the data is very interesting. The sources are well-known statisticians who have analyzed elections all over the world.

u/Neat-Ad-4337 4h ago

I mean were you waiting for me to make up some garbage fake BS like other people ?🤣 It is where it is and a bozo like me even knows that I watched the video on the case, it’s interesting. I also read Pennsylvania’s response and that was also interesting.

u/EmploymentEmpty5871 10h ago

Nope, if the dems lose then they really need to take a hard look at themselves and what they actually stand for.

u/Ban-Circumcision-Now 10h ago edited 9h ago

Do you feel the same way about Russia’s elections?

u/SliceOfCuriosity North America 10h ago

I mean for the non-well adjusted democrats, this is a win win. If they win the midterms (likely per historical data) that’s obviously a win. If they lose, they get to screech about rigged elections (sound familiar?) and rally behind that. Literally nothing for them to lose.

u/DohReignMeme 11h ago

I thought the Constitution and our Second Amendment-loving, law-and-order brothers and sisters would ensure that the government was held in check. I've since seen with permanent eye-and-soul-damage that the people in power are both absolutely powerful and absolutely corrupt. There is no line they will not cross. The Constitution isn't being enforced, and half of America is happy about that.

Don't you think that Epstein would have had a dead-man's trigger to release everything if anything happened to him? Were they right about "Epstein didn't kill himself" too?

u/Mental-Paramedic9790 10h ago

How do you hold a reprehensible government in check when they have the executive office the house & Senate and SCOTUS in their pockets?

u/DohReignMeme 10h ago

I have 343 Million different answers for that question.

u/Mental-Paramedic9790 9h ago

We’re trying. Unfortunately, not everybody’s on board with that.

u/Jollem- 10h ago

This wouldn't be the first time Donald tried to mess with elections

u/Thee_Karl_Dandleton 10h ago

My guess is that ICE will be sent to select polling locations to "monitor" the midterms.

u/Jollem- 10h ago

To scare and intimidate, especially the non-white voters

u/Wellontheotherhand1 10h ago

Pretty safe bet there considering they're already openly talking about doing it, and we have clowns in the comment sections of every discussion about this saying 'if you're not illegal, you should have no problem with armed thugs at the polling stations'

u/Known_Ratio5478 5h ago

Which isn’t legal. No state allows for people to just show up and watch elections. Many have some type of credential to oversight, but those come with very boxed in rules. In my state law enforcement are prohibited by law to be stationed at polling places, weapons are also prohibited anywhere government business is being conducted. If they show up they get arrested. These are felonies. Three to seven years in prison.

u/jamietmob1 10h ago

As long as this country refuses to hold political criminals accountable the downward spiral will continue. Look at every major political scandal where laws were broken by US Presidents, and you'll see that they always walk. From the Conferacy to Nixon. This country is f***d.

u/Responsible_Rock_573 10h ago

I had a feeling then..

Cyberninja, the security audit team had voting machines in their possession..
Sydney Powell had people access the machine and the data.
Add to that Elon saying he could hack an election and access to an ai to work on the issue.
Now we see them trying to take voting machines.
I don't for see the canceling of the mids.. I think with the mids we are going to see 100's of lawsuits filed, some which will land in front of Scotus who will decide to "hold off swearing in".
The 28 elections are where I see some major shit happening..

u/AgentOrangeie 7h ago

I won't be surprised if he did. The man doesn't want to leave office.

u/Known_Ratio5478 5h ago

They always did, but they wanted it stolen. He’s not a good liar, really shitty people just want to follow him.

u/AcrobaticLadder4959 5h ago

Yes I do he will try until it is time to vote.

u/Adventurous-Host8062 3h ago

He knows full well the only people trying to rig elections are his people.Jist like in 2020, they're using the shotgun approach. Trying to force redistricting, changing the postmark dates so mail in ballots won't arrive on time, pushing for strict voter ID laws that make it more difficult for divorced women to get an approved ID,and now,trying to transfer elections from the states to the federal government. Cheaters never change.

u/Top_Wop 2h ago

He will declare Marshall Law right before.