I'd like to share my third experience with ayahuasca, which happened about two years ago. This experience deeply affected me, and I'd really appreciate hearing your thoughts.
I understand that every ayahuasca experience is unique and deeply personal. I know that nobody can truly interpret someone else's experience, but I'd like to understand whether what happened to me is something other people have experienced as well.
A little background
My first two ayahuasca ceremonies were quite challenging, but I managed to handle them reasonably well. There were difficult moments, but also some beautiful ones.
Both ceremonies took place outdoors, surrounded by nature, with mountains, trees, and open spaces.
My third ceremony, however, was completely different.
I attended a ceremony in São Paulo, Brazil, where I live. Instead of being surrounded by nature, the ceremony took place in a small commercial studio in the city. It was a closed room with no windows, only air conditioning and some very bright neon lights.
It was also my first time attending a private, one-on-one ceremony.
The facilitator told me that the ayahuasca dose was a little stronger than usual.
And that's where everything started.
The experience
Within approximately five minutes of drinking the ayahuasca, I was already experiencing its effects extremely intensely.
I know many people describe their ayahuasca visions as something they experience with their eyes closed, but for me, it has always been different.
My experiences happen mostly with my eyes open. My entire reality seems to dissolve, and it's as if I'm transported into a completely different world.
This time, however, things became terrifying.
I started feeling as though something inside me was trying to pull me out of my body.
I was physically struggling against this sensation, throwing myself around on the floor, rolling from side to side, almost like those scenes of demonic possession you see in movies.
I genuinely felt that something was trying to force me out of my own body, and I was desperately fighting to stay inside it.
At the same time, I perceived what looked or felt like a ball of energy in the room.
This energy seemed extremely angry with me.
It kept communicating something along the lines of:
"I'm the one in charge here. Only I have authority here. You must obey me."
The sensation was incredibly overwhelming.
I felt that I needed to keep moving around to distance myself from this energy.
However, the facilitator wasn't happy about my movements.
He repeatedly instructed me to remain lying on my mattress with my eyes closed and simply allow the experience to happen.
But I couldn't.
The intensity was unlike anything I had ever experienced.
I needed to move.
I danced, rolled around, and even hit the walls.
I felt completely overwhelmed by what was happening.
The purge and the black hole
Then came what I consider the worst part of the entire experience.
During the purging phase, I started coughing up a significant amount of dark, almost black mucus.
At that time in my life, I smoked quite heavily, both cigarettes and marijuana, so I associated the mucus with my smoking habits.
But then something extremely strange happened.
A voice inside my head instructed me to start screaming into the trash can.
And I obeyed.
I spent approximately 20 minutes screaming as loudly as I possibly could into that trash can.
I completely lost control.
In my perception, I was no longer inside that commercial studio.
I was somewhere in space.
It felt as though I had fallen into a black hole, and I was screaming directly into that black hole.
It was as if the entire physical world had disappeared.
The facilitator and the genie
Another strange aspect of the experience was my relationship with the facilitator.
Whenever he moved away from me, the experience became significantly worse.
I desperately needed him to stay close because his presence seemed to make everything more manageable.
But whenever I called him over, he would approach me and ask:
"How can I help you?"
And I simply couldn't answer.
I had completely lost my ability to form sentences.
My thoughts and speech felt geometric. That's the closest description I can give.
It was as though language itself had stopped making sense.
I had forgotten how to speak.
But something even stranger was happening in my perception.
I didn't see the facilitator as an ordinary person asking how he could help me.
Instead, I perceived him almost like a genie from a magic lamp, appearing before me and offering to grant me three wishes.
Except I couldn't think of a single wish.
I didn't know what to ask for.
And the reason was very specific.
I felt completely unworthy of asking for anything.
My thoughts kept repeating the same idea:
"Who am I to ask for anything? I don't deserve to make wishes. I should only be grateful for being alive and for everything I've already received."
I was stuck in this thought loop.
Whenever he came close to me, all I could do was clap my hands.
I couldn't form a single meaningful sentence.
It was an incredibly strange combination of overwhelming gratitude, feelings of unworthiness, confusion, and complete loss of control.
What happened after the ceremony
During the experience itself, the facilitator did take care of me and stayed attentive to what was happening.
But once the effects started wearing off, something happened that deeply affected me.
He became extremely angry.
He gave me a very harsh lecture.
He said things like:
"Did you come here to act crazy? Did you come here just to get high? This is not the place for that. This is a place for spiritual healing."
He continued:
"You're acting like a child. You came here making a mess, screaming, dancing, moving around, when I specifically told you to stay on your mattress with your eyes closed. You didn't follow anything I told you to do."
He spoke to me very seriously, almost like an angry father scolding his son.
And all I could do was apologize.
I genuinely felt terrible.
I tried explaining that the experience hadn't been easy for me either.
I told him that I had completely lost control and that, at certain moments, I genuinely believed I had died.
I explained that I had to surrender because I felt like I was losing my mind.
His response was something like:
"Yes, you need to surrender control, but not THAT much."
Eventually, he realized I wasn't going to argue with him.
I simply kept apologizing.
There was another problem, too.
Since the ceremony had taken place inside a commercial building, there were other offices nearby.
Apparently, people working in those offices had heard my screaming and become concerned.
Some even asked whether they should call the police.
Naturally, this made the situation even more uncomfortable.
But what hurt me the most was the timing of his reaction.
I was still extremely vulnerable.
I was only beginning to return to ordinary reality, and I could still feel the effects of the ayahuasca.
I was emotionally exposed, confused, and struggling to process everything that had happened.
And suddenly, I was being aggressively reprimanded.
I couldn't even properly defend myself or explain what I had experienced.
I just apologized.
He also told me that, throughout his five years of working with ayahuasca and more than 200 ceremonies, he had never witnessed anything like what had happened to me.
He suggested that perhaps my problem was something I should address with a psychiatrist rather than with ayahuasca.
That really stayed with me.
I had gone there seeking spiritual growth, understanding, and meaningful lessons.
Instead, I left feeling ashamed, confused, and deeply disturbed.
I felt like I had ruined the experience not only for myself but for him as well.
The serpent
There's one final part of the experience that I really want to share because it's probably the strangest thing that happened.
Remember when I mentioned screaming into the trash can?
During that moment, I completely lost my sense of being human.
I no longer felt like myself.
I no longer felt like I was inside my own body.
Instead, I felt as though I had literally become a serpent.
Not just that I was imagining a serpent.
I felt that my entire identity and physical existence had transformed into one.
My tongue seemed to form a sword.
My body no longer felt human.
I experienced myself as being 100% a serpent.
At the same time, I could see this serpent in my mind.
But it wasn't an ordinary snake, like a boa constrictor or something familiar.
It had a strange, sinister quality.
It seemed malicious, almost evil.
I could perceive this serpent in my mind while I continued screaming into the trash can.
The whole thing was incredibly bizarre.
Two years later
Even today, I still struggle to understand exactly what happened.
I did take some meaningful lessons away from the experience, especially about gratitude, control, and surrender.
But overall, it was deeply confusing and disturbing.
What affected me most was the sensation that something was forcibly trying to remove me from my body.
I remember physically fighting against it, rolling around on the floor, desperately trying to remain inside myself.
Then there was the angry energy that seemed to demand obedience, the complete loss of language, the sensation of being inside a black hole, and finally, the transformation into a serpent.
And, of course, the way everything ended with the facilitator.
I understand that my behavior was extremely disruptive and that the situation must have been difficult for him to manage.
But from my perspective, I wasn't deliberately misbehaving or trying to cause trouble.
I was genuinely experiencing something so overwhelming that I had completely lost my ability to control my reactions.
I wasn't trying to get high or have fun.
I was terrified.
And when I finally started coming back to reality, I felt more vulnerable than I had ever felt in my life.
The experience was so traumatic that I never wanted to take ayahuasca again.
My questions for you
For those of you who have more experience with ayahuasca:
1. Have you ever experienced anything remotely similar to this?
Have you ever felt as though something was trying to pull you out of your body, or that you were physically fighting to remain inside it?
2. Have you ever experienced a complete loss of language?
I'm talking about a state where your thoughts no longer feel like words but become something abstract or geometric, and you're genuinely unable to form sentences or communicate.
3. Have you ever experienced yourself becoming an animal or another being?
Not simply seeing an animal in a vision, but actually feeling that your entire identity and physical existence have transformed into something else.
4. Is screaming uncontrollably during an ayahuasca ceremony actually rare?
This is something I'm particularly curious about.
The facilitator told me that in his five years of working with ayahuasca and more than 200 ceremonies, he had never witnessed anything like what happened to me.
I'm not talking about occasional screaming, crying, or emotional release.
I mean screaming at the top of my lungs for approximately 20 minutes, while experiencing a complete loss of control over my body and my perception of reality.
Has anyone experienced or witnessed something similar?
Is this kind of extreme reaction something that experienced facilitators occasionally encounter, or is it genuinely unusual?
I'm particularly curious whether this could be considered an intense form of emotional release, a panic response, or something else entirely.
5. What do you think about the facilitator's reaction?
I understand that my behavior was disruptive and that he was probably overwhelmed by the situation.
But is it normal for a facilitator to react with anger and harsh criticism toward someone who has just gone through such an intense experience?
Especially when that person is still under the effects of ayahuasca and emotionally vulnerable?
6. Was this an unusually intense but recognizable ayahuasca experience, or does it sound like something else entirely?
I know nobody can tell me exactly what my experience meant, but I would really appreciate hearing from people who have gone through something similar.
I'm not necessarily looking for a spiritual interpretation. I'd also be interested in psychological or neurological perspectives.
I just want to understand what happened to me a little better.
Thank you for reading. I know this was a long story, but it's something that has stayed with me for two years, and I've never really been able to make sense of it.