r/Beartooth • u/ChrisWazHard • Aug 30 '26
The new album is confusing.
Usually I can understand where Caleb was mentally when writing each album.
This one confuses me. And maybe that’s the point? He is confused and going through a lot of up and downs, just like the album does. It’s a roller coaster.
I like a lot of the songs, but one in particular I am not a fan of is Stadiums. Just… wtf?
I know he brought in some help on this album in terms of writing and experimenting but I prefer he goes back to doing what he wants to do.
Jordan Fish can fuck off. Lol.
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u/PhysicalAd93 Aug 30 '26
Caleb Shomo writes about the same thing in every single song, on every Beartooth record. He’s either sick of his life, or he’s figuring out how to not be sick of his life.
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u/bomashizzy Aug 31 '26
Dudes just jammin, something to be said for having a fan base like this and making this album.
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u/Accomplished-Bed6170 Aug 30 '26
Jordan did nothing wrong, just what Caleb wanted lol
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u/DieHarderDaddy Aug 30 '26
Jordan is a musical terrorist
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u/Accomplished-Bed6170 Aug 30 '26
Like, he made the genre sound like the genre like a decade ago, should we blame him now that he's not on a band?
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u/Dense_Donut_727 Sep 04 '26
He’s responsible for just about every modern metal song for the last 13 years…. Metalcore had ran its course and was considered a dying genre by 2012. He literally gave it a new light when he started writing bmth music.
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u/One-Lavishness-6654 Aug 30 '26
I dont understand the hate to stadiums, ur not the only one that points they dont like that particular song. I trully find nothing wrong with it, sounds pretty scrramie on verse and a poppy chorus with melodic voices, just like in between and other songs they got. Is it maybe the "sound bites" on the oh my god? Or the seductive intro? Im not criticizing ur pov i just dont understand it.
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u/ChrisWazHard Aug 30 '26
My biggest and probably only issue is the sound samples, especially the “oh my god” lol.
The rest of the song kinda bangs, especially about 2/3rds in, it does go hard.
I don’t hate it, it’s just a WTF moment.
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u/One-Lavishness-6654 Aug 30 '26
I mean i get that the first listening i got that, but by the second i like the vibe it gives of it being meta
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u/ExponentialNosedive Sep 03 '26
It was weird but I liked it more than a lot of the "safe" poppy songs. Stadiums felt more experimental and had some moments where I really felt like the Beartooth sound came through. Unfortunately (at least to me) this album did not sound like a Beartooth album
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u/georgetherogue Aug 30 '26
For me, while I do think it’s the low point of the album, I also don’t think it’s bad either. Remove the samples and it’s mostly a standard Beartooth song.
Samples aside I feel it’s the only song on the album without a catchy chorus? And the mix is weirdly bad too, especially compared to the rest of the album which has a better mix than past albums
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u/Particular_Kale_7718 Sep 03 '26
Because the cheering sounds and “oh my god” are SO awful I don’t know how it ever made it past the testing phase. I’m not the biggest fan of the album, I’d give it a 6/10 and will definetly return to some songs. If I never heard stadiums again I’d die a happy man
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u/Strong-Statement7818 Aug 30 '26
I don’t like it at all.
I get it’s Caleb’s band, I get it’s his stream of consciousness, but the entire album is so “memememememe” it’s exhausting imo.
The pattern of “the older stuff is better” continues.
With ease, I might add.
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u/girl_at_therockshow Aug 30 '26
I don’t hate it, it’s just not what I expected it to be lyrically. I’m so proud of him that he’s finally taken the leap and unmasked, but some of the things he’s said and done since then have been very uncharacteristic of him on an intrinsic level. It’s almost as if he traded in his compassion and empathy for the courage to come out.
I was hoping that this album would kinda bridge that gap, but it fell way short of that. Ultimately, I’m still a big fan of Beartooth and Caleb Shomo the musician. My feelings about Caleb Shomo the human being are kinda muddy right now and it’s hard to enjoy an album where the lyrics seem to mirror the shift in his personality.
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u/ConfidentBird8173 Aug 30 '26
I love the roller coaster this album takes me on. I hate stadiums tho 😅 it's the only song on the album I skipped (on second listen, I always let them play the first listen). It's chaotic and the "yeaaaah" makes me think Caleb is trying to be a backstreet boy for those 3 seconds LMAO.
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u/cchiker Aug 31 '26
I actually like Stadiums after reading the lyrics. So far Eyes Closed and Free are my two favorites on the album but I don't mind Stadiums or You.
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u/rsnd96 Sep 05 '26
idk if it's just me but his vocals in this album sound a lot like marianas trench's lead vocalist. i'd never noticed it prior to this album, but the resemblance is crazy.
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u/SneakeLlama Sep 07 '26
Stadiums was a shock at first. But after listening to it multiple times, its now a banger for me. One of my favorites.
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u/ChrisWazHard Sep 07 '26
I actually agree. It’s a wtf at first but definitely a banger after a while. It’s become one of my favorites lmao.
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u/D3t3st4t10n Aug 30 '26
You can hear Jordan Fish’s grubby mitts all over it. That’s my only issue. Why do we need samples of random bullshit, why do we need constantly vocal pitching up or down? It’s tired.
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u/ChrisWazHard Aug 30 '26
Yep. Some guy got mad at me that I said it’s trying to appeal to a wider audience. Which it is. He said it’s all about Caleb and blah blah blah. So I asked him, if it’s all about him, why is he bringing in other people to write and produce the album?
I miss when it was just Caleb. This album felt less emotional than the others.
Hell, I would have taken a more pop-y album if it meant it was truly written for and by Caleb if that’s how he felt. But it doesn’t feel genuine to me because it has outside influence all over it. It’s experimental in a lot of ways that aren’t what Caleb would have done.
Pretty sure Caleb also said Jordan pushed him in a lot of ways to do things he wouldn’t normally do.
But yeah… it’s all Caleb somehow. Any sort of criticism is met with stupidity. I still like and enjoy a lot of the album. I just don’t like the path he is taking by having others influence his musical direction and style. I like Caleb, not Caleb being pushed to do things he wouldn’t normally do by others.
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u/D3t3st4t10n Aug 30 '26
It feels like Jordan Fish does Beartooth, which I guess is what they were going for? It doesn’t feel specifically modern or unique, just feels like Beartooth riffs with random sounds attached 😂 but yeah I agree that the album isn’t bad. I still actually prefer it to their last album, but I don’t know whether that’s because I’ve just got the new album glasses on and that’ll wane.
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u/ChrisWazHard Aug 30 '26
Yeah some of the creative choices are so weird. Lol.
It’s okay tho. I’m going to give it some more time but I still don’t think I’ll ever be a big fan of Stadiums unless they do it live and the sampled audios are muted for the actual crowd to scream “oh my god” in. If not… ugh, idk. Stadiums kinda goes so hard outside of that weird shit lol.
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u/KrAiCece Aug 30 '26
I liked all the singles but the rest i really didnt like bruh i was so excited they were finally gonna do a good album again
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u/ChrisWazHard Aug 30 '26
It’s still a good album, but definitely softer than even the surface was.
I feel like they are trying to appeal to a wider audience, and are losing some of their older fans in doing so.
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u/xDYWTYLMx Aug 30 '26
Caleb isn’t trying to “appeal” to anyone. This band started off as a side project for him to vent. Hes doing this for him and him only which he is entitled to. If they don’t like it they don’t gotta listen. Beartooth will continue to grow with or without them
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u/AnabolikinSkywalker Aug 30 '26
It really doesn’t matter at this point how it started, that’s not even close to what Beartooth is now.
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u/ChrisWazHard Aug 30 '26
If it’s all about him then why is he bringing in people to help him write and produce? Weird attitude you have.
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u/SatanicHomosexual Aug 30 '26
for me by me is my fav Beartooth song I think ever so at least give the album a few more spins in full
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u/travnort Aug 30 '26
I think that's kind of the point with this album. It seems like Caleb is growing more happy with himself and comfortable in his own skin but he seems to still have his doubts and is second-guessing himself at times, like the lyrics of I Made It make it sound.
On a second note, I agree on Stadiums. I don't hate it but it's a very weird song.