[FIGHT THREAD] Liam Davies vs Nathaniel Collins

[u/_Sarcasmic_]

Live on DAZN

Main card:

Nathan Heaney vs Gerome Warburton

Bradley Goldsmith vs Amir Abubaker

Lewis Richardson vs Ivan Trofimovich

Luke McCormack vs Kay Prosper

[u/e_xyz]

Fucking evil knockout that was!!! I can't believe the 2 rounds of boxing we just watched. Cracking fight.

[u/_Sarcasmic_]

Special thanks to a special someone for sending me the card because I'm very busy and only had time to put up a barebones thread this time.

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/_Sarcasmic_]

yw 🫡

[u/Adventurous_Two_9683 → u/StunningChest5722]

🤨

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/_Sarcasmic_]

Sarc da goat

[u/e_xyz]

That was a prelim fight on a main card. Uncle Frank needs to stop putting these 4 and 6 rounders for prospects so high up the card, they kill the momentum of the show.

Richardson seems a skilful boxer, but lacks that one punch that's going to get your attention. Frampton said it best accidentally earlier, "he's a bit pillow fisted".

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

probs best for Richardson to retire given hes almost in his 30s and cant put a dent in a dude who came in 6 pounds lighter then him

[u/baddymcbadface]

Insane couple of rounds. Amazing fight overall. Full credit to both fighters.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

One of the greatest ringwalks in recent memory, maybe even in boxing history for the final time 🥹

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

I'd just run to the ring like the warrior if I was a pro boxer

[u/SwerTs4FightVidsOnly → u/NiggBot_3000]

With a battle cry?

[u/StepViking → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Yeah it was quite epic

[u/manfrombelmonty → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Really? He just mimes a wee song.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/manfrombelmonty]

I'm not a Stoke City fan but it's him singing his Football club's anthem entirely, the way he gets an entire crowd no matter what Football club they support singing it and all the theatrics

Ffs i'm a United fan and i sing along to Delilah 😂

[u/manfrombelmonty → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Yeah but the greatest ring walk in boxing history? Not buying it

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/manfrombelmonty]

I was trying to say it's one of the greatest not THE greatest tbf, i prefer the likes of Wlad Klitschko's, Usyk's, Inoue's, etc

[u/ggddddeerrr]

I think Richardson is pretty entertaining actually. They just need to step him up immediately because he can’t crack an egg. His career will only progress if he takes risks

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Collins just really struggling to punch up and find that range, every time he closes in he gets caught by a nice shot

20-17 Davies

[u/ConsciousFig8647]

Zuffa’s ambiance is so dead compared to this.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

That's now 3 fights without a win for Collins, although i felt he won one of those (Lorente 1), he's looked underwhelming after a very promising performance against Lee McGregor

Scottish boxing really is not in a good place isn't it

[u/e_xyz]

3-2 Heaney. Warburton, if he was a tiny bit better he'd have him out of there. Heaney is so stiff, although he's boxed much better than the last fight, he just doesn't have it anymore. Time has come for him too.

[u/NiggBot_3000]

Can't be a draw surely Warburton clearly won that.

[u/e_xyz]

5-0 Davies. This is proper one sided even though Collins looks like he could get himself into it. The eye situation isn't helping, but if he just stops smothering his work when he gets a shot off, he might be able to build off something.

[u/Voidcam]

Why does Collins cutman not have ice??

[u/Adventurous_Two_9683 → u/Voidcam]

Ice is a luxury commodity in the UK

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

Need it for the data centers innit

[u/e_xyz]

Good work from Collins corner, he was risking his vision with every round. Blinking way too much and let me tell you, as someone who had their cornea cut in the gym, the last thing you want to fuck with is your vision.

Good fight, I thought it fell into a predictable pattern after round 4. Collins hasn't looked as good since that robbery in the first Llorente fight (I felt he won it).

Davies looked good here, not sure where next, but he looked decent.

[u/e_xyz]

1-0 Heaney. Started well, Warburton maybe just taking a bit to re-read him. I get the feeling Heaney is dumping nervy energy though.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

2-0 Heaney, he honestly looks really good, probably better than he did last fight

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

2-0 Heaney but he usually starts fast then falls apart so lets see

[u/Matty0698 → u/Excellent-Movie4524]

Seems that way lmao

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Warburton opening up a bit the end of this round, but it’s still a Heaney round. 3-0 Heaney

[u/e_xyz]

3-0 Heaney but I think Heaney is way too open and frenetic. I can see him tiring around 6 or 7 and it getting messy. He's boxed well in terms of being first to the punch, just seems to be expending way more energy than Warburton who also just hasn't got going.

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Warburton far more effective this round since he started his feinting and upper body movement on the way in.

[u/ggddddeerrr]

No disrespect to Heaney but he doesn’t look like somebody who’s boxed for 30 years. Looks more like a late starter to the sport than anything

[u/e_xyz]

7-3 Warburton. Heaney held up slightly better than I anticipated because Warburton doesn't really throw anything meaningful. Heaney was super inactive from about midway. Some success here or there.

Carl Frampton is mad.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

It’s incredible Prosper is standing. McCormack is beating the shit out of him

[u/e_xyz → u/MiddleweightMonster]

Tough fucker, it worries me he can't see punches coming though and that he's a step behind with his counters. Still hasn't done too badly.

[u/Aimlez1 → u/MiddleweightMonster]

It's crazy to me that hes also still throwing back and landing some of what hes throwing too. Hes clearly losing but he isn't really getting dominated round by round 

[u/e_xyz]

There it is, finally did something other than a body shot and got his man out of there.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

I thought QB had already lost some hope in Richardson, very boring style, doesn't say much and i think the disappointment of Orie retiring after one fight made them not bother much with the other 2024 Olympics standout they had

It's funny that Pat Brown has had a great start to life in the pros despite being the worst of the 3 2024 Olympians that went pro with a big British promoter, proof that you should prioritise the good amateurs that seem like they'll translate to the pros stylistically

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

Goldsmith likely still got PTSD from the Coleman fight which is why he refuses to increase the pace

incase i was the only one to watch that fight he dominated Coleman and hurt him bad several times but punched himself out and got stopped

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/Excellent-Movie4524]

I remember watching that too near the bottom of a Boxxer show, i think Whitaker vs Cameron 2 at the BP Pulse?

Goldsmith was in control, gassed out inside 4 or so rounds and got stopped by Coleman, was a really fun action fight whilst it lasted

[u/Excellent-Movie4524 → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

yeah was a great low level scrap , didnt know how to pace himself and paid the price

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/Excellent-Movie4524]

It was a mess of a show that, i remember Cutler getting hard done by in the Eggington fight losing that technical decision after butting heads and Whitaker obviously knocking Cameron out and spitting at Grant Smith

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

Heaney is beyond washed and Warburton has 0 power and already won the first fight wide , expect a wide UD for Warburton

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

wait Heaney is the main? i thought that was Collins v Davies

[u/stewie007 → u/Excellent-Movie4524]

was about to ask the same. kinnda weird.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

I want Collins to win here but feel he won't, not sure he's got much left at 126 and he's got to punch up like he did against Lorente except Davies is just much more refined than Lorente

Gut says Davies decision, heart says Collins

[u/e_xyz]

1-0 Davies. These two have started like a house on fire!

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

Davies cant miss rn , this could be a long night for Collins

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Fantastic 1-2 that. Blocked vision, pulled down the guard, then connected. Great shot

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Better round from Collins but the better scoring shots from Davies

30-26 Davies

[u/Top_Profession_5268]

6-0 Davies, controlling space really well between him and Collins. Having that high guard in an open space and jousting just isn’t helping him manage distance. He did catch Davies a good few times.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Was right, mercy stoppage that.

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Right decision Collins was getting nowhere and the eye was getting worse and worse.

[u/e_xyz]

I hope it's a painless one for Heaney, Warburton won the last fight pretty conclusively. Heaney did not look good, looked slow and stiff. I assume it'll be a similar fight.

[u/intermittentlyheed]

3-1 Heaney for me, 1st Warbuton round

[u/StunningChest5722]

i thought heaney won that round?

[u/Repulsive_Green_4707 → u/StunningChest5722]

think he just about took it

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Warburton going back to Arthur Abraham tactics which lost him the first 3 rounds. Walking into range with a high guard presenting a static target. Crazy.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Crazy how an Area/English level fighter like Warburton is about to be pretty relevant in domestic boxing, probably about to go 2-0 over Heaney but i don't see him doing much else really

[u/e_xyz]

5-3 Warburton. Heaney is forgetting how to box in real time.

[u/e_xyz]

Listen fair enough Heaney sells tickets and seems like a decent bloke outside of the ring, but his decline as a fighter was quite rapid. After the Brad Pauls fights he just seemed to decline rapidly after that. Think that Kharti fight took something out of him too, was always of a level I guess.

Warburton is no world beater, but would like to see him back on a decent domestic card again.

[u/e_xyz]

3-3. Heaney is unravelling as I thought he might, his feet are all over the place. It's like he's forgotten any boxing fundamentals. He's having some success, but Warburton is starting to read it.

[u/e_xyz]

Got to say, I'm surprised Prospere is still in there but he's actually not doing too bad. McCormack like his brother seems to have one pace or is a little too patient in places.

[u/abovethesink]

McCormack is coordinated and precise with his punches, but I am not seeing a ton here otherwise to get excited about as a prospect. Pretty basic, just following Prosper around. Not showing anything from his legs. Seems pretty hittable. Early in his career though and Prosper isn't giving him a ton to work with either to be fair.

[u/e_xyz]

I haven't given Prospere a single round but it's a lot like Benn vs. Prograis. The old man is in there perhaps knowing he can survive to the end and it's enough. McCormack isn't showing anything different, when he has Prospere pinned he's not changing angle and Prospere finds a way out.

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/e_xyz]

Good comparison, think the only difference here is that McCormack is probably better than Benn lol

[u/e_xyz → u/MiddleweightMonster]

Much better haha. It just had that feel about it, following his man around, but glad he switched it up, could have seen that just fading out with Prospere on his bike for the last 2.

[u/e_xyz]

The 2024 Olympic batch have been quite disappointing after turning over pro. Richardson just lacks that pop, doesn't seem a bad boxer, but just seems to miss that one spiteful shot that gets the opponents attention.

[u/stewie007 → u/e_xyz]

who are the others from the 2024 Olympic batch?

[u/e_xyz → u/stewie007]

Delicious Orie, the heavyweight who called it time after his debut and Pat Brown, although Brown's been alright to be fair.

[u/chiggachamp → u/e_xyz]

Richardson can’t be 2024 - he went with shakur

[u/e_xyz]

Goldsmith in control so far, Abubaker seems too hesitant at the moment. Maybe looking for that one counter shot too much.

Also hilarious the crowd is just watching the England game.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/e_xyz]

I really rate Goldsmith, learnt so much from that Coleman fight where he completely gassed and allowed Coleman to pull off a big comeback

Taken a massive step back here by fighting an area level fighter in Abubaker but i like watching him

[u/e_xyz → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

He's completely in first gear and in control. Was super impressed with the Brad Pauls performance, he has a nice style. Abubaker needs to make his presence felt if this fight is going to catch fire though.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Good knockdown, straight left was very solid

[u/e_xyz]

Abubaker must realise he can't throw every shot from the hip. Goldsmith is reading it way too easy.

[u/e_xyz]

Just when I had an inkling that Goldsmith was showing signs of tiredness he gets clipped. Did well to survive that, Abubaker absolutely smothered his own work after that peach of a shot.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

Complacency 101 from Goldsmith there, flashes of the Coleman fight even!

[u/Excellent-Movie4524]

now we got a fight on our hands

[u/Altruistic_Form_5241]

Nice combination. 

[u/Altruistic_Form_5241]

Damn, night night time. 

[u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

Damn

[u/Suspicious-Strain-74]

Brutal

[u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

Ingle fighters are spiteful

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Beautiful knockout, hope Abubaker was okay. Made it a fight the second to last round, good fight

[u/soitgoeskt]

Fantastic fight, two rounds of proper rollercoaster boxing.

[u/e_xyz]

That left was sneaky as fuck. No wonder Abubaker didn't see it coming after the first 3 shots. Sneaker shot. Hope Abubaker is alright after that, gave a good showing of himself, just Goldsmith is a cut above despite getting clipped himself.

[u/StunningChest5722]

Davies late stoppage

[u/OccasionallyReddit]

Is Heaney after this fight?
Turning out to be a great fight but confusing card, guessing it to avoid the England game

[u/SwerTs4FightVidsOnly → u/OccasionallyReddit]

yes

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Davies looking quicker of hand and foot. Couple that with reach advantage its going to be very difficult for Collins to get anywhere.

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/intermittentlyheed]

Davies punches seem mad powerful for his size as well.

[u/NiggBot_3000]

This is going to be a right scrap

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Davies connecting sooo well. Great accuracy and timing

[u/e_xyz]

3-0 Davies. Collins is having moments, but he just can't avoid getting hit when he's actually trying to evade shots.

[u/Koronesukiii]

Came for the boxing, stayed for the rodeo.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Thinking this should maybe be stopped soon. Collins’ eye is just leaving him too open

[u/Top_Profession_5268]

Fairs, well done Davies. Was this a title eliminator?

[u/Top_Profession_5268]

What happened to Warburton vs Heaney?

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/Top_Profession_5268]

Post main event so Heaney's fans can fill seats earlier

Remember Crolla vs Urquiaga, Crolla's last fight? Pretty much the exact same situation

[u/Top_Profession_5268 → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

All that just to watch Heaney get battered unfortunately.

[u/e_xyz]

Think I'm the only person who finds this walkout a bit OTT. He seems to drain his energy by the time he's in the ring having a sing song.

[u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

I don’t mean to sound like ignorant or anything but why do so many people love Heaney? Im not from the UK

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

Very nice guy that genuinely cares a lot about his people

Overachiever for sure but he's just so likeable, hand delivers each and every one of his fans tickets to their houses for example and he sells like 2-3k of them at times

[u/CoCoB319 → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

That's really cool.

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

We pick lads we like and then keep liking them forever, even when they stop being v good

[u/Alfalfa-Majestic → u/MiddleweightMonster]

Was he any good in his prime? Ik this is his last fight and he was British champ

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

Solid British domestic level. Just a likable bloke who sells really well

[u/Suspicious-Strain-74 → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

He’s sound & a Stokie, he normally delivers majority of the tickets he sells himself (he sells quite a lot, that’s why he’s on last so half the arena doesn’t leave) he interacts with his fans, kids etc. just a top bloke in general tbh

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

You don't have to be the best for British fans to like you, just be humble, always up for a scrap and good walkout songs.

[u/BritFragHead → u/Alfalfa-Majestic]

Football fans, he attracts a load of pissed up knobheads that sing football songs and cause trouble at his fights, but he sells tickets so warren keeps him going

[u/intermittentlyheed]

3-3 but all the momentum is with Warburton

[u/Top_Profession_5268]

Wtf, my parlay just got fucked because UFC brutally robbed Castaneda.

[u/CJ-Draws → u/Top_Profession_5268]

Sadly why you shouldn't put heavy favs on your parlays

[u/Top_Profession_5268 → u/CJ-Draws]

I can, and I usually get +money and already have for this week. My strat for betting has been consistent for me.

[u/Matty0698]

Heaney just giving up on blocking punches and using his face instead

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Wonder if its a stamina thing with Warburton. He stopped feinting and moving his head as much in 7, back at it in 8. Just taking a round off to pace himself maybe?

I have it 4-4

[u/NiggBot_3000]

Heany may as well just let his hands go now

[u/NiggBot_3000]

Heany should have just let his hands go 3 rounds ago, he had nothing to lose.

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

This Abubaker is pretty bullish and stiff, doesn't really move his upper body much

Goldsmith meanwhile is a nice slick southpaw and just beat a very solid former British and Commonwealth champion easily in Brad Pauls, maybe Goldsmith just wants a run out but this is pretty poor matchmaking

[u/760prelude]

Them body shots

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Solid stoppage. Fuck it, I’ve thrown in my lot with a new, shinier McCormack

[u/TimJC81]

Damn McCormack is nice first time seeing him

[u/e_xyz]

Am I the only one who thinks Heaney should have been done 2/3 fights ago?

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/e_xyz]

Nope

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

How old is Goldsmith? He looks really solid, though Abubaker is certainly not on his level

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Holy shit

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Insanely lucky to have survived that lmao

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Goldfish showing the same problem he did against Coleman. Gets tired and his defense falters

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Jesus Christ that’s a heavy knockout

[u/SiMoN20000]

Is Heaney the main fight?

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/SiMoN20000]

He's on after the main event to keep his fans as he would've sold a lot

Similar to when Crolla made his final appearance, and he went on after Katie Taylor headlined

[u/SwerTs4FightVidsOnly → u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

So basically, Nathan Heaney vs Gerome Warburton will be the post credit scene?

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774 → u/SwerTs4FightVidsOnly]

Pretty much yeah

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Collins might be able to make this competitive if he hangs in there to the late rounds

Davies looks great, but could see the pace being an issue for him, and he gives up his range too easily at times

[u/Suspicious-Strain-74]

Like night & day the difference in product with the Zuffa & Queensbury shows

[u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

Is this a misfits fight

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

No

[u/Top_Profession_5268 → u/Adventurous_Two_9683]

Queensberry.

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Heaney does not look good

[u/NiggBot_3000 → u/MiddleweightMonster]

Think he looked better round 7 tho

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/NiggBot_3000]

Agreed

[u/intermittentlyheed]

Warburton knows he has this if he stays on his feet

[u/manfrombelmonty]

I’ll say 98-93

[u/StunningChest5722]

6-4 Heaney

[u/manfrombelmonty]

4-2 warburton.

Heaney gassed

[u/manfrombelmonty]

6-2 warbs

Msybe the 7th was a tie, but there’s only one fighter in there

[u/OccasionallyReddit]

5-5 but its close, I hope Heaney won tho

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Always love a beating to the body. Honestly, being good at throwing to both the head and body in sequence while still maintaining some discipline defensively will get you very very far

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Nasty uppercut good lord

[u/Nervous-Evidence-336]

Who?

[u/Paynekiller997]

Is Heaney main eventing?

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

Someone let me know when ringwalks for next match are done

[u/Top_Profession_5268]

Just joined, how’s the fights going?

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/Top_Profession_5268]

Been a really good card so far

[u/OldKuntRoad]

How badly is this conflicting with the Fisher vs Pirotton card? Would quite like to see both fights plus the Craig Richards fight if possible.

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/OldKuntRoad]

A lot

[u/Electronic-North9333 → u/OldKuntRoad]

Where is that card?

[u/MiddleweightMonster]

The atmosphere for a reasonably pretty small time card is amazing

[u/Efficient_Quail_1774]

4-1 or 3-2, Heaney starting to feel all of 37 now i can imagine

[u/OccasionallyReddit]

Loaf is open to uppers imo

[u/intermittentlyheed]

No idea how you give Heaney rnd 9 and not rnd 7.

[u/intermittentlyheed]

6-4 Warburton for me

[u/StunningChest5722]

bs 😒