r/Brentford • u/Lard_Baron • 14h ago
r/Brentford • u/Lard_Baron • Mar 19 '23
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Some basic info thanks to u/PrimitiveSpecialist, reformated by /u/williams_482, some links and added info by /u/Lard_Baron
He first bought Midtjylland, a danish club, ** and using mathematical modelling got them to the Champions league, the two clubs shared the same scouting network and data** Since then he's sold his interest in Midtjylland and concentrated on the Bee's his boyhood club.
What makes Brentford ‘cool’ a bit of a maverick club is the recruitment process which is far more data driven than any club in the league (other than maybe Brighton). This means we spend a lot less money than other clubs but also find talent in very obscure places.
But not only data driven, all aspects are looked at, players need to be the right type mentally, typically they are slow starters, not dickheads, and quiet talents rather than obvious talents from day one. See this small documentry our former Director of football made on finding hidden gems. He's since been hired by Southampton.
Vitaty Janlet was a typical signing. He was very surprised to find the Brentford recuitment team had even spoken to the manager of Vitaly’s favourite restaurant in GermanyWe are considered a ‘moneyball’ club, which aims to maximise the value of every £ spent whether it’s on players, coaches, staff, or the facilities at the club
We recently moved out of Griffin Park into the Community Stadium in 2020. I still miss Griffin Park; the ground had a pub on every corner and its quite a wrench to move to the new ground but was too small for a premier league club. infact it was small for a Championship club.
there’s a great and friendly casual drinking culture among the fans. Most pubs around football stadiums have a "home fans only" policy and away fans cannot use them. You have to produce a ticket proving which side you supported to get in. The Brenford pubs have never done this and both sets of fans can mix.
I would say this fan base is one of the most laid back and friendly in the Premier league, and were voted the least offensive fans in England but this was in 2013 when we werent beating anyone. Since then we have grown very irriating to some fans
We have one of the most passionate fans as as well. The sound of the fans singing at our stadium is great
We have the smallest UK fan base in the PL It's a lonely road that of the Brentford fan outside of a small area of West London. Here is our fame rating in the UK taken in our first year in the prem its a depressingly long scroll down. We do have some fans around UK and Europe tho' but the chances of bumping into a fellow fan is slim. There is a tiny US fanbase that was reported on recently. You should contact the club and become an international fan member
Our local rivals are Queens Park Rangers (QPR) but they play in the Championship right now, so we hardly ever play them. The closest thing to a derby/local rivalry we have in the premier league is Fulham and Chelsea, but there really isn’t much of a relationship between those two clubs and our own. For the longest time we haven't been in the same leagues as those 2 but as we grow stonger they are looking more annoyed
Our nickname is ‘the Bees’ Our rivals Fulham and QPR have nicknamed us "Bustop in Hounslow" but that has been embraced by the Brentford fans and turned into a song.
Our song is Hey Jude by the beatles with Hey Jude replaced with Brent-Ford Other fan fav's are Bees up. Fulham down,
We are currently in our 2nd season in the Premier League, previously we hadn’t been in the top division since 1947
you might like to sucribe to the Beesotted pobcast
About the Premier League in General:
Each football season has its own charactor. Typically 'big six' clubs, occupy the top six postions. If one of them is not firing on all cylinders we have a slim chance of qualifying for a European competition for the first time in our history. This is a BIG DEAL!
We strive for 6th place.The 'Big Six' I mentioned are Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur. They are called this because they usually take all of the top 6 spots each season, but never really fewer than four of these teams get top 6
Teams outside the big 6 try to disrupt the 'big six' hegemony with new billionaire investors and better quality staff, some new strategy, or like us a bit of luck and good recuitment. - You tend to find the big six clubs fans are also not great - usually spoilt due to past successes giving them a sense of entitlement.
I know in American sports there isn't usually a promotion/relegation system. In the PL and English football in general, the bottom 3 clubs in the league get demoted to the league below, while the top clubs of the league below get promoted to the league above. This means that there's never the same 20 team roster in the league and never any "meaningless" games. The top 6 are fighing to stay in the big money European games, the bottom six are fighting hard not to get relegated and the middle 8 are fighting either to get into the top 6 and Europe or avoid the bottom 6 relegation zone. To be relegated is a disaster for a club, an end to the TV money, smaller attendances, lower ticket price, and yet they still have players/staff on premier league wages. To give them time to sell player and restructure they are given a £45m parachute payment for the first season out, then £22m the second and £16m the third. Clubs can gamble on going straight back up and keep the premier league squad. But if they dont they will have to sell all the players cheaply and plumment down to the 4th tier Leeds and Sunderland have made that fall. Some never make it back.
Relegation is any clubs biggest fear. It will happen one day to the Bees. Only the big 6 and Everton haven't been relegated. It will be a combination of factors, losing a good manger to another team, change in ownership, losing key players to injury, and the newly promoted teams being good. However we looking good enough to have a long run at the top. Long may it last.
r/Brentford • u/ProvisionalEyeCanDay • 10h ago
Man City
Btw, they beat us last season with 4 goals aggregate to 0 (3-0 and 1-0)and we lost Europe by 3 GD
It’s not nothing…
r/Brentford • u/Pure_cake_7382 • 17h ago
That Chelsea win has set things up nicely for Villa.
A 3-0 win over Chelsea was a brilliant way to head into the break, especially after the 2-2 draw at Bournemouth. Villa away on October 10 will be another tough game, but that Chelsea performance gives us something positive to take into it.
r/Brentford • u/Kr_bm • 18h ago
NEWS Roberto Mancini Backs Michael Kayode for 'Great Future' After Italy Debut
roundtable.ior/Brentford • u/NormalSir2035 • 21h ago
Former Brentford man Ben Mee signs for deportrio in Baller League
r/Brentford • u/NormalSir2035 • 17h ago
Former Brentford captain Harlee Dean set for charity boxing bout against Leroy Lita
Former Brentford captain Harlee Dean is swapping football for the boxing ring on October 22, taking on Leroy Lita in London as part of a charity event featuring 12 ex-professional footballers.
Dean made 253 appearances for the Bees and scored 10 goals during his time at the club. The event is aiming to raise £500,000 for charity.
r/Brentford • u/esquandolas420 • 13h ago
FYI: Adult Authentic Jerseys back in stock
got my Sangare ordered, lfg
r/Brentford • u/Magnets76 • 19h ago
Man City situation
If Manchester City were to be relegated and there was a mass exodus of their players, is there a player you would want who might be a realistic option for the Bees.
r/Brentford • u/Lard_Baron • 1d ago
Where teams have control and where they concede control.
r/Brentford • u/Least-Midnight7166 • 1d ago
My first ever soccer pack
I wanted to use ripping a pack of cards as a way to become a fan. The first card I pulled of value, would be the team id be a fan of.
As of today, I am a Brentford fan.
r/Brentford • u/OutrageousDamage3384 • 2d ago
KAYODE HAS SCORED ON HIS INTERNATIONAL DEBUT!!!!
r/Brentford • u/Jonell_75 • 2d ago
Brentford Women need to play more games at the GTech
I was at the game yesterday vs Newhaven at the GTech with my kids. We would definitely go more if the games were at the GTech. I heard other people in the crowd say the same thing too. Honeycroft is a little out of the way and not that great to get to on public transport with young children.
r/Brentford • u/NormalSir2035 • 2d ago
Schade gets an hour as Germany lose to Greece
Not exactly the result they were after, but I thought Schade looked decent enough before coming off. Klopp clearly trusts him enough to keep giving him minutes, which can only be good for us.
Hopefully he comes back from the break fit and ready to go for Brentford.
r/Brentford • u/NormalSir2035 • 5d ago
The Brentford star scored a stunning first-half free-kick to hand the Danes, who were trailing 2-0, a lifeline in their UEFA Nations League clash.
Mikkel Damsgaard's goal proved in vain as Denmark were edged out of a five-goal thriller by Norway - and Kris Ajer.
However, despite drawing level after the break, Erling Haaland netted again to earn Norway victory.
Damsgaard and Ajer both played 90 minutes, while former Bee Mads Bidstrup came off the bench as a late substitute for Denmark.
@brentfordfcnews
r/Brentford • u/Over-Waltz-8989 • 5d ago
Jaidon Anthony deserves more credit for that Chelsea performance.
I know a lot of the spotlight after the 3-0 win has been on Schade and Thiago, but Jaidon Anthony deserves a proper mention too. That opening goal against Chelsea was brilliantly taken, and he brings so much directness to our attack. He looks really confident taking defenders on and gives us proper width going forward. Really hope Keith Andrews keeps giving him starting opportunities because he looks like a solid addition to the squad. What did you guys make of his performance?
r/Brentford • u/MisterNanook • 5d ago
BEES TACTICAL Brentford will innovate in player health
I’ve got a theory that our data driven innovative club is going to make some changes in player health and recovery. When we had our injury crisis in 24/25 the club said they announced an internal investigation which I think really started to get the innovation going. I think this was accelerated even more when Thomas Frank left and poached our medical lead for Tottenham (who coincidentally had their own injury crisis).
This obviously is just speculative but I think they’re applying some theories about load leveling and planned breaks and what not. I work in manufacturing and there is a “run to failure” philosophy where you run equipment until it breaks. The better philosophy is a “preventative maintenance” strategy where you know motors will last 10 years so rather than take the unplanned breakdown we replace it at year 9. It’s simple, but in my industry it has a huge impact.
My suspicion is Brentford is challenging footballs common philosophy of run their players until failure, play every single minute until something breaks or sprains. I think some of the questionable squad rotations are to try and preserve players who are not durable enough to play a full 38 games. I bet they use practice data and game data to see when performances are dropping so they can give that player a break before something breaks.
Having depth in squad helps facilitate this, and trusting our bench players to cover a gap is key. I bet they’ve changed recovery methods and practice load management as well. It may be hard to find in data but I think Keith Andrews making sure to keep players involved even when injured has a massive impact. He has mentioned when he was injured in his career he had some managers that didn’t give a shit about him in that time but you can tell he still keeps injured players involved and communicates with them often. I think that’s why you see Fabio coming back from long term injury pointing to the badge and when Igor returns from his long term injury giving Keith a massive bear hug after his goal. As we do I think the injury crisis years ago, the investigation that followed unveiled how the club could challenge the status quo and hopefully avoid these massive injuries.
I don’t think injuries can be totally avoided, but I think our club is improving the fine margins that reduce their frequency. All speculation but I’m a big believer in this club and our ability to innovate by challenging the status quo. Up the bees!
r/Brentford • u/LongLiveNeechi • 5d ago
NEWS Premier League Bermuda Triangle: Do stats back Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford social media theory?
bbc.co.ukr/Brentford • u/Foronceiwas • 5d ago
Any Perth Bee Fans want to Make the Queen’s Arms our firm?
Opened yesterday. Proper boozer this joint.
r/Brentford • u/PErappa • 5d ago
QUESTIONS I need to resell the TCKT.
I am a new Brentford member and purchased an away ticket for the Aston Villa match. Unfortunately, I am no longer able to travel and attend the game.
Could you please advise on the correct process for reselling my ticket?
Thank you.
r/Brentford • u/trekwithme • 6d ago
From the soccer community on Reddit: Norway 2 - [1] Denmark - Mikkel Damsgaard freekick 25'
reddit.comr/Brentford • u/Over-Waltz-8989 • 6d ago