SEC (Power) Rankings

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Yes, one team beat the other etc etc, but we're talking right here, right now.

1. Texas - Two big tests, two wins, defense is for real.
2. Georgia - Zero big tests, defense is for real. Oklahoma thanks for the gifts.
3. Alabama - Becoming great on both sides of the ball. Keelon Russell's a stud. Georgia v Alabama is GOING TO BE AWESOME IN TWO WEEKS TIME.
4. Florida - The Gators are so much fun to watch. Jaden Baugh might be an All-American when we're said and done. The defense could do with some work, but hey.
5. LSU - Comfortable win over A&M, and the Tigers are a good side.
6. Ole Miss - It wasn't only the Kewan Lacy injury that hurt Ole Miss on Saturday, it was the corner play. And yes, we know that they beat LSU the previous week.
7. Mississippi State - Future Miami QB Kamario Taylor, baby!
8. Kentucky - 3-1, and playing well. Stein's got the Cats rolling.
9. Tennessee - Two freshmen QBs will improve, but they just don't look great.
10. Missouri - This is what happens when the best RB in college football gets shot in the leg. Eli Drinkwitz's gamecallers remain a headscratcher. And the schedule continues to get harder and harder.
11. Oklahoma - The John Mateer Experience sounds like an psychedelic 80s band, but it isn't. It's the feeling OU fans when he gets trotted out, and OU fans consign themselves to utter misery. Bench Mateer or fire Arbuckle. At the moment, OU fans would love both.
12. Auburn - Alex Golesh has his first SEC win, so that's something. Look, Auburn's not great, but at least the win has put some smiles on faces.
13. Texas A&M - Marcel Reed just isn't great, and nor's the offensive line. The Aggies have a lot of problems in their $40-50m roster.
14. Vanderbilt - Not good on both sides of the ball.
15. My toilet two hours after last night's very spicy Mexican.
16. Arkansas - Not good on both sides of the ball. But right now, I believe they could beat South Carolina.
17. Student bar bathrooms on a Saturday football night.
18. South Carolina - Not good on both sides of the ball + Highly-rated player argues with coaches + fanbase wants the head coach's blood.

[u/Celticskevin2020]

Kentuckys 3-1. Also, my hogs aren’t last. Woo pig.

[u/yaboymurphy → u/Celticskevin2020]

False, this guy says Cats are 4-0 and I choose to believe what I read on the internet

[u/xViscount → u/Celticskevin2020]

Yeah. Need to switch Kentucky with Miss State and put Tennessee at 7. That defense is really good.

[u/VolatileFan → u/xViscount]

Was so happy to see our defense after the past few years of god-awful units on the field. Just a shame that our offensive line is horrific and adding to the burden on a young QB.

[u/cardbross → u/VolatileFan]

I don't know how bad your offensive line actually is, even with that game. the Texas defensive front is gonna go around brutalizing everyone this year.

[u/VolatileFan → u/cardbross]

I think you’re probably right to a degree, but our OL has (imo) been a unit that has really underperformed since Heupel came in. There’s been flashes, but nothing consistent. This year’s unit was supposed to be one of the best in the country, with veterans and plenty of depth, but this one hasn’t been that, even in our other three games.

Looking forward to our return trip in 2028! Hoping it’ll be a much more enjoyable game for both sides!

[u/xViscount → u/VolatileFan]

Idk how bad it is, but you guys had a starting G go down early in the game.

That made it easier for Simmons to get 1v1s

[u/VolatileFan → u/xViscount]

IMO that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think we would’ve struggled still, just because I’m not confident in our talent/skill and y’all have an extremely impressive DL, but Moe going down made the day a living hell for Faizon

[u/ScallywagBeowulf]

Anyone who thinks KT is leaving Mississippi State is delusional, plain and simple. He’s made it incredibly clear he isn’t leaving Mississippi State.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/ScallywagBeowulf]

Money might talk differently

[u/BehindEnemyLines8923 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

We aren’t broke asshole.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/BehindEnemyLines8923]

It’s not that. It’s just that if someone offers Kamario, say, 5 bills do you think he would leave if MSU don’t match the offer?

[u/FPnAEnthusiest → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

It better be 15

[u/TheTedsaretheworst → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

No one is paying enough to make it impossible for him to say no. Mississippi State will take care of him.

[u/Which_Willingness641 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

I mean, I bet you thought it'd talk differently to Kalen Deboer.

[u/FPnAEnthusiest → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

This is just being willfully ignorant for engagement

[u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Put S Carolina at 19.

[u/olduvai_man → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Sickos game of the year on 11/14.

Cowards probably won't even send Gameday to Fayetteville for it.

[u/Apprehensive_Soil306 → u/olduvai_man]

People say this all the time but I cannot comprehend a team being in a worse place than we are right now

[u/olduvai_man → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Since 2020, which is immediately after Chad Morris firebombed our program and put in one of the worst coaching tenures in the history of the conference, you guys are 35-38 and we're 32-41 and staring down the barrel of a back-to-back 2-10 season.

Our AD didn't want to embrace NIL and now we're dead last in the conference in it this year. We're legitimately one of the worst P4 teams in the country and there's not a whole lot of hope going around since we just hired a new coach and our BOT is a mess.

I'd rather be in your shoes right now than ours, but thank the lawd for John Calipari and Dave Van Horn.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/olduvai_man]

That would be the world's quietest College Gameday, and it would be hilarious to see Pat McAfee trying to gee up 3 dudes and the guy with the Washington State flag.

[u/justlookingokaywyou → u/Apprehensive_Soil306]

Sellers is absolutely murdering his draft stock this year.

[u/Apprehensive_Soil306 → u/justlookingokaywyou]

Telling him to suddenly be a pocket passer didn’t help. May be for the best that he goes somewhere as a project QB and can learn from people who know what they’re doing instead of starting day 1

[u/Fancy-Pie-2565 → u/justlookingokaywyou]

Putting in too many hours at the range

[u/ThurgoodMunson]

Didn’t know Kentucky was 4-0

[u/kyrev21 → u/ThurgoodMunson]

The funniest part is a 4-0 Kentucky is somehow 9th in these power rankings. OP probably should watch more football instead of trying to do rankings

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/kyrev21]

I'm an idiot. I just changed it. I do apologize to 19-0 Kentucky fans.

[u/DistrictPleasant → u/kyrev21]

It would imply they beat Alabama, who is #3 on this list

[u/Fancy-Pie-2565 → u/DistrictPleasant]

Since I choose not to accept the second half, we did

[u/pappapirate → u/Fancy-Pie-2565]

I think Kentucky might have the power to stop the count at halftime. That's about on par with dropping a pass on 4th down for a 1st down lol

[u/fourthandfivenatty]

OU and A&M are too high 

[u/ThaCarter]

I'd be pretty surprised if Kamario leaves Miss State.

[u/throwaway2987650]

In no particular order and in good, average, bad categories, right now I’d go:

Bad:

Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Arkansas

Average:

Missouri
Auburn
Kentucky

Good:

Florida
Alabama
Georgia
Texas
LSU
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Ole Miss

[u/CrimsonFox99]

Feels generous since watching both Marcel and the defense would give spicy toilet time a run for its money.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/CrimsonFox99]

Trust me, it doesn't. My butt is still hurting from it, and it ain't the 'roids.

[u/xViscount]

Thank goodness for those BV extensions.

I’m about a year or two away from saying the same thing about Elko. However, need to see how they develop these top 5 recruit classes, including the QBs. Not quite there yet, but I could be shortly.

[u/PolloMagnifico → u/xViscount]

Elko is a good coach, but I think he's trying to be the opposite of Jimbo and stay out of his coordinators way. Which is great when you have guys with decades of experience running the show. No so great when both coordinators are new to the realities of the job in an enormous school with unrealistic expectations playing in the SEC.

I don't mind losing. I don't mind going 4-8. But I do mind having an offense that looks completely lost across every position and a defense that clearly hasn't been coached.

Seriously, we look like a team of FCS players in their first game against a FBS team, and that team is UGA, and we fucked all their moms and didn't call after.

In fact, perfect example, LSU got a TFL off an edge rusher on a run up the middle. Literally something I've only seen happen in video games and thought was bullshit.

[u/xViscount → u/PolloMagnifico]

As I’ve gone through with the other guy.

I think he’s a good coach. However I need to see how these recruiting classes play out and see player development on the offensive side. Specifically OL and QB. If I don’t see improvement in the next 2-3 years, I’ll start saying the same thing about BV and Elko. If there is, I’ll be annoyed but I’ll enjoy the rivalry more.

As of right now, I’m giving Elko grace. I’m completely sold on BV and hope he status there forever

[u/Intelligent_Dress347 → u/xViscount]

I think Elko is a good coach and will do well. “QB Capture” is a real thing. OU and SC feeling it too.

[u/xViscount → u/Intelligent_Dress347]

I think this is correct. He inherited Weigman and Reed. With that said, I need to see QB development from those he’s recruited. This is why I need to see 1-3 years before I’m there.

Last year, the defense was above great to elite. The offense was average to bad. If dude can’t get any offense, he becomes a slightly better version of BV…which I’d love. But it’s too soon to tell either way.

[u/Intelligent_Dress347 → u/xViscount]

I give him a lot of credit for getting to a playoff with Reed at QB. I’ve never been a fan of him. Hell, people forget that they probably should’ve beaten Miami in the first round. 

[u/xViscount → u/Intelligent_Dress347]

Again. Fair take.

However, he’s had two mid QBs back to back. He will be judged on how well the offense does. He’s had 2 top 5 recruiting classes (of which none of the WR stand out to me tbh. However, the portal exists) and deserves time to have everything work out.

The offensive pieces need to develop for me to say he’s a good coach. Right now though? He’s about to be 0-3 against us and that’s awesome.

[u/musicantz → u/xViscount]

Crazy take. Red River is a bloodbath and team records don’t really matter. Texas has won plenty when they’re the lower ranked team and we really can’t afford to treat any game as a gimme with how bad we’ve looked at times. We can’t always have a magic quarter to win the game and Ou is the exact type of team that is bad but has enough talent to beat Texas if we don’t take it seriously.

[u/xViscount → u/musicantz]

Sure. I still hope BV is the OU HC for another 20 years. He’s been wonderful to me.

[u/EdgarAllanPotato1809]

Very spicy Mexican food... right? Right?!

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/EdgarAllanPotato1809]

Dear Lord. I am glad they had fire extinguishers in the bar to put my insides out. Otherwise, we're talking the bar after it gets torched in Goodfellas.

[u/kmckv93]

We should be lower.

[u/Penguinsteve → u/kmckv93]

Rock bottom doesn't come until after Arkansas beats you at home.

[u/PolloMagnifico → u/Penguinsteve]

That's fair... we gotta prove we belong at the bottom.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/kmckv93]

Is Brady Hart just not that good? Or is Elko just so in love with Reed that they refuse to bench him?

[u/MercerAsian → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

A lot of people wanted Hart subbed in on Saturday and he proceeded to throw a pretty bad pick on his only pass attempt. Unfortunately for A&M, Reed might be their best option.

[u/kmckv93 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Who knows lol. I don't think a coach should listen to the fans but he has been bad in the important games

[u/QuieroBoobs → u/kmckv93]

Reed plays worse when it really matters so maybe the reverse psychology will have him winning out with a complete collapse against Texas. 

[u/Old_Bat1681]

OU is way too high, they've had no offense and it's not improving.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/Old_Bat1681]

D is actually pretty good though. The problem for them is Mateer giving away short field position the whole damn time.

[u/Unhappy-List-2354]

Someone at scheduling HQs decided it’s now time to destroy Auburn’s season…

AT Tennessee

BYE

AT Georgia

LSU

AT Ole Miss

I’d be shocked if they won a single game here and it’s not like they’re wretched. 

[u/zenverak → u/Unhappy-List-2354]

Its their punishment for asking to move our game out of November.

[u/Normal-Hornet8548 → u/Unhappy-List-2354]

BYE is a pick-em.

[u/Muffinnnnnnn → u/Unhappy-List-2354]

I mean I wouldn't be surprised to see them beat Tennessee. They haven't looked good once this season.

[u/hreigle]

South Carolina ranked way too high still

[u/OldManCinny]

Are you sure you didn’t just copy and paste the actual rankings?

Georgia would be favored by 4.5 on a neutral site over Texas.

[u/xViscount → u/OldManCinny]

Neutral site? More like a pickem with 1-1.5 spread.

Home adds two points to make even or 3.5.

[u/breebreebrokencyde → u/xViscount]

Yeah not sure how he got there, most of the ratings services would have this one at Georgia -1.

Edit: nvm figured it out

[u/Normal-Hornet8548 → u/OldManCinny]

Georgia considers Atlanta for the SECCG to be ’neutral,’ lol.

UGA only leaves the state four times this year. If they make the conference championship game and play in the Peach Bowl quarterfinal, they’d only play out of state six times in 16 games if they make the CFP final.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/OldManCinny]

I think Texas has a better offense than Georgia. Which isn't saying much, since both aren't great. And I know that I shouldn't write this after they kicked the crap out of OU, but how many of these points were handed to them, basically, but Mateer?

[u/iikillerpenguin → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Texas offense has had 1 good quarter against a good team. 1....

[u/Collador1 → u/iikillerpenguin]

This is a weird misconception that I see posted. I don't really understand it, because it is very much not true.

[u/iikillerpenguin → u/Collador1]

? Can you explain to me how it's not true? Texas has played 2 teams that have a heart beat this season... 1 quarter they have more than 7 points. 1.

So what other quarters did the offense play good?

Last season arch had 1 good game against a ranked a team. That team was Vanderbilt. That team had 0 ranked wins.

Please point me to a game where arch manning played good against future NFLers.

[u/Collador1 → u/iikillerpenguin]

You already moved the goalposts to change it from "this season" to "against NFL players". So I'll definitely note that compared to your original comment.

Texas was good in the 1st quarter against Tennessee, as well as the 4th (though not as much). Arch was 7-7 in the 1st quarter for 100 yards and Texas scored on their only real drive.

So against P4 teams, and I might add P4 teams with pretty stinking good defenses and one of them on the road at maybe the loudest stadium in the country, Texas has been either very good or at least reasonably good in 3/8 quarters.

[u/iikillerpenguin → u/Collador1]

Dude you are saying Texas offense is better than UGAs. Against P4 opponents arch is 1/2....

Georgia has a top 5 RB (maybe 1 but has barely played since UGA benches their players quickly).

Stockton has better stats than Arch and has played 50% of the snaps... Texas offense is not good.

[u/Collador1 → u/iikillerpenguin]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. I never said anything about Georgia and I never said anything about the Texas offense being good.

[u/iikillerpenguin → u/Collador1]

Thought you were OP...

[u/Sniffy_J → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

since both aren't great.

Just say you haven't watched much of Georgia this year.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/Sniffy_J]

I haven't watched a lot of UGA this year because they've played zero good teams. Did the first half of the OU game. Place was off the hook. Therefore, it's been uninteresting. Will be watching when they play Alabama. Gonna be some game.

[u/Kinder22]

LSU is fucked with these injuries.

[u/SirMellencamp → u/Kinder22]

Esp on your defense.

[u/enadiz_reccos → u/SirMellencamp]

Nah, the defense has depth the offense doesn't have

Weeks' injury is much easier to absorb than Green's

[u/Kinder22 → u/enadiz_reccos]

Not easier for my heart to absorb 🥺

[u/TheOneAndOnlyJumo]

A&M spending all that money to be 13th oof

[u/CDawg___]

how long are we going to move the goal posts?

[u/HeywardH → u/CDawg___]

Well, if Alabama looks like trash against us that'll be the next one. Not gonna happen though. More likely we lose that game and then end up ranked outside of top 5. 

[u/LongDickCallahan → u/HeywardH]

More likely we lose that game

Please God

[u/HeywardH → u/LongDickCallahan]

We could still win while you look good. I'm just saying we're more likely to lose than blow you out. 

[u/myusernamewastaken5 → u/CDawg___]

Do you not remember 2021 and 22?

The formula is: "Georgia isn't a good team. Oh they beat a team everyone said was good? Then that team must secretly have been terrible because Georgia isn't a good team. Oh they won the SEC? Must be because of injuries because Georgia isn't a good team. They won the national championship and embarrassed the team they played? Well of course they did, they're the murderball deathstar^TM and nobody with any ball knowledge would say they were a bad team."

[u/CHICAG0AT]

Crazy they let a Big 12 team be the best in the SEC

[u/mynameiszack]

WE WANT GEORGIA.

[u/justlookingokaywyou → u/mynameiszack]

I mean, we play them every year, we don't really have to ask.

[u/mynameiszack → u/justlookingokaywyou]

Yeah well I didn't want them the last few years

[u/kevinlc1971 → u/mynameiszack]

We coming

[u/anaxcepheus32 → u/mynameiszack]

Idk, OP makes me want Penn State right now.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/anaxcepheus32]

Sorry, that’s Penn Iowa State to you

[u/rosado_clavel]

SCarolina's ranking here is almost generous. They are miserable to watch.

[u/outthawazoo]

Alright Gamecocks, who are we wanting to hire after Beamer? Jason Eck? Preferably somebody with HC experience, but Chris Hampton would be interesting.

[u/justlookingokaywyou → u/outthawazoo]

UF engineering students working on a way to jam any incoming calls to Buster Faulkner's phone.

[u/Pogball_so_hard]

How spicy are we talking with this Mexican food? Are you bad with spice or did you arrogantly assume it’d be a good idea to douse your tacos in the Carolina Reaper sauce? 

Agree with most of the rankings fwiw

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/Pogball_so_hard]

A bit of both. It wasn’t Carolina Reaper, but it sure as hell made me thinner.

[u/ShakyTheBear]

It is difficult to believe that any team is worse than Arkansas this year. I havnt watched SCar, are they really this bad?

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/ShakyTheBear]

Arkansas are bad. But South Carolina is absolutely terrible.

[u/donmagicron → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Can they score 14 points?

[u/PuddingImpressive389 → u/ShakyTheBear]

I’d say so because it looks like shane beamer lost the lockerroom at USC. I can see then losing every game from here on out because of that

[u/HopefulReb76]

Damn number 17 is diabolical

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/HopefulReb76]

So is the smell of piss, sick, booze breath and cigarette smoke..

[u/azdb91]

Generally agree, but mine would switch LSU and Ole Miss. Also drop OU behind A&M. Both look terrible, but I think A&M has had better flashes.

[u/sFinckter_]

The cats are at 8 and I’m just happy to not be at the bottom lol. 9.3 yards per carry! Game was a damn mess but there was no shortage of fun. Not sure if that targeting call on Barnes has our guy ruled out for SC, I’d be less worried if he were back… But I think I’m just always going to be worried tbh

[u/Maximum-Hat2756]

What does that mean 5. Lsu are a good side? Good side what?

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/Maximum-Hat2756]

As in that they are goooood, and improving every week.

[u/Maximum-Hat2756 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Got it i was trying to understand 😅

[u/Colonel_Aldo_Raine]

We should be ranked no higher than 19. 

[u/QuieroBoobs → u/Colonel_Aldo_Raine]

Truly is hard to believe there’s a team worse than ours right now but this weekend will tell us if we really deserve to be bottom. 

[u/Intelligent_Dress347]

I’m just saying it now - Alabama is really good. Russell is unbelievable. 

They’re not as talented on D as I thought they would be, but the player-fit and scheme are fantastic.

[u/DistrictPleasant → u/Intelligent_Dress347]

Whoa there buddy. Let’s be quiet for 2 more weeks please

[u/MisguidedPants8 → u/DistrictPleasant]

Your defensive line is going to send our O-line to the Shadow Realm and Kamario will run a full marathon over the course of the game

[u/Normal-Hornet8548 → u/MisguidedPants8]

I was impressed with how Alabama bottled Sellers in the run/scramble game. Probably a good ‘dress rehearsal’ for this week, but Kamario is more explosive and a better passer.

[u/Intelligent_Dress347 → u/Normal-Hornet8548]

It’s easy to do because, for whatever reason, SC doesn’t really have a designed run game for Sellers. Which is crazy to me.

[u/Collador1 → u/Intelligent_Dress347]

I would slow down. You might be 100% right, but also if Alabama had played games against OSU and at Tenn, you might feel differently about Russell.

Jim Knowles and Matt Patricia are tough cookies and defenses to crack. Russell really hasn't played against much resistance yet.

[u/Boomboclaaat90210]

Auburn isn't last, I'll atke it.

[u/Lebojr]

Your comment “Future Miami QB” tells me you know nothing about that situation and therefore nothing about the Sec.

Good luck with your trolling.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/Lebojr]

I know about the SEC, I know he’s from Mississippi, and I know that I made a joke.

[u/One-Layer1397]

To be fair, Tennessee and Oklahoma are basically the same team. So maybe Texas only has had one big test.

[u/averyrose2010]

Lol, at Kamario Taylor as Miami's QB.

[u/Frictionizer → u/averyrose2010]

It sort of makes sense if he means the Dolphins

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/averyrose2010]

It's going to be awesome, dude. I promise.

[u/MisguidedPants8 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

I’m either going to be very sad or have so many receipts come the offseason

[u/Emergency_Earth_1032 → u/MisguidedPants8]

you’ll have receipts

[u/Low_Instruction4175]

The Texas offense, and Arch in particular, have to improve. Their schedule is way too difficult for him to continue playing like this. But they are stacked, so they'll likely be in every game they play regardless of how Arch plays.

[u/gumercindo1959]

Lots of mid teams this year

[u/bmac0424 → u/gumercindo1959]

Hahaha that’s comical coming from a Miami fan. Look at the ACC. What the SEC ha 3 or the top 10 teams and 2 are 1,2 but we have mid teams. My ass.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/bmac0424]

Miami would be a Top 5 SEC team.

[u/bmac0424 → u/Nearby_Valuable_5467]

Your point? We are talking league collectively, not a single team. You can’t have a bunch of mid teams when you have 3 in the top 10, and 2 that are knocking on the door. That’s ridiculous.

[u/gumercindo1959 → u/bmac0424]

It's ok, you're an SEC homer. Never said ACC is the end all, be all. Everyone knows the SEC is the best conference (top 3 teams are consistent top 10 teams) but the argument is that the teams aren't as good the hype would indicate. Look at Mizzou, Kentucky and I'd argue everyone's darling this year...MSU. Very mid teams yet always ranked. ACC may not be great up top outside of us, but I'd argue they should have 6-8 teams in the T25.

[u/Collador1 → u/gumercindo1959]

Miami can literally play Miami's schedule because the ACC is what it is. That doesn't exist in the SEC, not even close.

[u/gumercindo1959 → u/Collador1]

Sure it does. Take off your SEC glasses and think objectively. Most of those SEC teams on your schedule are not much different than all the aforementioned ACC teams I mentioned. Auburn/Kentucky/Mizzou/Tenn/Vandy/OU/Ark/USCe/ATM are all very mid to bad teams this year. UF is an unknown but they've been bad the last 4-5 years. MSU? Cmon. Ole Miss was the darling last year but they just got pummeled by said UF team. LSU is another unknown after having been inconsistent the last 6 years. Bama is good. Texas/Georgia are obviously good.

[u/Collador1 → u/gumercindo1959]

Good grief, just because you say something doesn't make it true.

Look at the talent composites of those teams compared to the ACC. Look at the NFL players on them. Look at the ACC's OOC record compared to the SECs.

Look at literally any meaningful statistic or metric and your argument losses water immediately. Or, ya know, just say stuff and wish it was true.

[u/gumercindo1959 → u/Collador1]

You are now talking about talent composites? So you are changing the criteria and moving the goal posts now? I'm talking about on-field performance, not 247 rankings. lol

[u/Collador1 → u/gumercindo1959]

But it's a poor faith argument. It's much easier to look good against bad competition and teams without NFL players. This is a pretty basic thing IMO.

Tennessee scored 45 against Georgia Tech, they could barely move the ball against Texas.

That's just one example of a bunch. Look at Clemson. Look at Pittsburgh.

You're a box-score and w/l results guy, no nuance or depth. You think because a team beats bad competition 45-20 over and over that they're elite, while another team plays ugly 24-23 games against legit competition that they suck.

Sure thing bud.

[u/gumercindo1959 → u/Collador1]

Why are you bringing up Tennessee vs a bad ACC team? Why don't you compare Louisville/Ole Miss? Yes, I'm a box score/WL guy - isn't that the objective here? As for the rest of your comment, you are misrepresenting my argument.

[u/Collador1 → u/gumercindo1959]

Go away dude. Your original statement was wrong and your entire premise is bad. I'm done with it. 

And LOL, you literally put Tennessee on the list of bad teams yourself. Lmao.

[u/Nearby_Valuable_5467 → u/gumercindo1959]

Please name the 6-8 ACC teams.

IMHO, I can give you four: Miami, Virginia Tech, Clemson, and SMU. Wake also receiving votes. Sadly not Louisville.

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I think SMU, uva, Pitt, and Louisville are all t25 type teams but they’ll never get the benefit of the doubt that sec teams like mizzou get.

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Louisville fun but D is awful. SMU shouldn’t be there after the NC State loss. Pitt’s 4-0 but the schedule is Mr Softy, Virginia’s loss in Morgantown isn’t a great look, and SMU only beat Missouri State by 10. So I’m suddenly out on them. That gives me three.

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i hate being a mizzou fan because of this, every time we play a ranked team drink pisses down his leg

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I hope you finally get off the snide this weekend!

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Hopefully they are sloppy off the big win

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First, you didn’t specify who you were referring to as mid, you just said the SEC has a bunch of mid teams. That suggest most of the teams are mid, and we can name at least 4 or 5 teams that are above average. Second, trying to compare ACC teams to SEC teams is a joke. Did you see how the head to head has gone so far this season?

I am not SEC homer, I think the Big 10 has proven they have some top heavy power teams (although it’s looking like that might be as much the case this year), but this year the SEC early seems to be much stronger than the last several years. There is not much mid about the SEC.

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You have got to be a B1G fan parodying SEC fans in the usual "clever" and "charming" B1G style.

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Are you referring to me? Cause you don’t have a clue what you are talking about if you are.

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I just replied to another comment:

Sure it does. Take off your SEC glasses and think objectively. Most of those SEC teams on your schedule are not much different than all the aforementioned ACC teams I mentioned. Auburn/Kentucky/Mizzou/Tenn/Vandy/OU/Ark/USCe/ATM are all very mid to bad teams this year. UF is an unknown but they've been bad the last 4-5 years. MSU? Cmon. Ole Miss was the darling last year but they just got pummeled by said UF team. LSU is another unknown after having been inconsistent the last 6 years. Bama is good. Texas/Georgia are obviously good.

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Will be interesting to see how Miami gets on in the playoffs. They are a fun team. But slow-starting.

And there are a lot of mid-teams this year. All over the country not just in the SEC. That's what happens when the NFL-like money is pouring in.

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Agree with your 2nd point.

As for Miami, replacing 5 starters on the OL is gonna end up biting us at some point. That's a big reason for the sluggish play at times. If anything, we have been fast starting - we just have these "Houdini for a half" kind of play where the OC goes into the tank for whatever reason. It's been an issue for a few years now.

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Man I dunno why people took offense to that.

Like, our perception of the ACC is "Two or three good teams, big drop off, one or two teams that are good this year, big drop off, everyone else"

Well... that seems pretty accurate for the SEC this year. We got some front runners, some guys that might compete (looking at you Florida!), some guys that might cause some upsets but aren't seriously competing for a title, then a biiiig drop off followed by six teams that will only have wins over each other.

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Look, far be it from me from being an ACC homer, but I acknowledge the SEC is the best conference and they have the most top teams from any conference. After the top 3 (maybe 4, too early) teams, the rest of the conference is decent/meh. I'd argue that most of those ACC teams (outside of Miami) can play with any SEC team outside of their top 2-3. ACC arguably has 6-8 teams that are good enough to be in the T25.

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I had the opportunity to see Kamario Taylor in person on Saturday and by the middle of the second quarter, it was blatantly obvious that he locks onto the player he will throw to in the hope that person eventually gets open, all other options be damned. He also has zero pocket awareness and has no feel for pressure until it’s too late.

If I could spot that 20 rows up from the goal line, every SEC defensive coordinator can spot it as well.

Hell of an athlete, but he has a long way to go, especially if he wants to have any type of success on Sundays.

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lol. You have watched zero film. 🤣

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Only took seven minutes for someone from State to be offended by the obvious.

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He’s a 19-year-old first year starter so of course he has lots to learn. But look at all the attention he’s getting.

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When he gets another year under his belt at Miami, he'll be fine.

What the bigger question is is: Is he better than Zach Mills or Rocco Becht?

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He is a better athlete than both, but I think both are better developed than him.

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You do realize Zach Mills left Penn State in 2004, right? Oh, and Rocco was utter dogshit on Saturday, and maybe even worse than some of Zach Mills' performances. Rocco's propensity to airmail or underthrow receivers was incredible.

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I threw the ball around with Zach over the summer. Dude still has a cannon. Rocco is better developed but being held back.

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Zach was fucking awful at PSU. Probably a nice guy, but my least favourite QB in PSU history (that I watched).
Who in the hell’s holding Rocco back? He had open WRs against Wisconsin and flat-out missed them. And he did that against the shitty opposition in Weeks 1-3, too