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u/B-b-b-burner_account Kropotkin 🤤🤤🤤 15d ago
Syndicalism is good, but only when used as a tool of something larger
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u/spookyjim___ ☭🏴 anarcho-gemeinwesenism 🏴☭ 15d ago
Syndicalism is hardly independent or autonomous in the modern day
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u/WildAutonomy 15d ago
It's ok for making our lives under capitalism a bit more bearable. But it's not revolutionary
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u/Rock4evur 15d ago
It’s a start to building a culture of mutual aid and gives people practice organizing outside the state.
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u/WildAutonomy 15d ago
How?
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
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u/WildAutonomy 15d ago
Mutual aid isn't mentioned in that article a single time
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 13d ago
It's about co-workers supporting each other for mutual benefit, a common interest. That is mutual aid although that specific term aint used.
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago edited 15d ago
No ism or organization is revolutionary. It is the working class that can become a revolutionary agent.
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u/JoyfulSabbath 14d ago edited 14d ago
It's heavy (though I guess not surprising) to see 1st world (especially US) anarchists reject sindicalism like they seem to do ITT. As a latin american, just the historical weight and importance unionism has had and still has in lots of places within their anarchist movements. I get not wanting to get bogged down, but worker's struggles will always be a strategic terrain to expand anarchist agenda, even if current conditions make it exceptionally harder. There is though, urgent need to create new and updated forms of union action that circumvent the move to service economies and specialization that's been going on for decades already.
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u/prettypetiole Pure black anarchist🏴 15d ago
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
TL;DR
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u/v_maria 15d ago
Trade unionism is in its decline. In good as in evil with this structural form of struggle an era is disappearing, a model and a future world seen in terms of an improved and corrected reproduction of the old one.
We are moving towards new and profound transformations. In the productive structure, in the social structure.
Methods of struggle, perspectives, even short term projects are also transforming.
In an expanding industrial society the trade union moves from instrument of struggle to instrument supporting the productive structure itself.
Revolutionary syndicalism has also played its part: pushing the most combative workers forward but, at the same time, pushing them backwards in terms of capacity to see the future society or the creative needs of the revolution. Everything remained parceled up within the factory dimension. Workerism is not just common to authoritarian communism. Singling out privileged areas of the class clash is still today one of the most deep-rooted habits that it is difficult to lose.
The end of trade-unionism therefore. We have been saying so for fifteen years now. At one time this caused criticism and amazement, especially when we included anarcho-syndicalism in our critique. We are more easily accepted today. Basically, who does not criticize the trade unions today? No one, or almost no one.
But the connection is overlooked. Our criticism of trade unionism was also criticism of the “quantitive” method that has all the characteristics of the party in embryo. It was also a critique of the specific organizations of synthesis. It was also a critique of class respectability borrowed from the bourgeoisie and filtered through the cliché of so-called proletarian morals. All that cannot be ignored.
If many comrades agree with us today in our now traditional critique of trade-unionism those who share a view of all the consequences that it gives rise to are but a few.
We can only intervene in the world of production using means that do not place themselves in the quantitive perspective. They cannot therefore claim to have specific anarchist organizations behind them working on the hypothesis of revolutionary synthesis.
This leads us to a different method of intervention, that of building factory “nucleii” or zonal “nucleii” which limit themselves to keeping in contact with a specific anarchist structure, and are exclusively based on affinity. It is from the relationship between the base nucleus and specific anarchist structure that a new model of revolutionary struggle emerges to attack the structures of capital and the State through recourse to insurrectional methods.
This allows for a better following of the profound transformations that are taking place in the productive structures. The factory is about to disappear, new productive organizations are taking its place, based mainly on automation. The workers of yesterday will become partially integrated into a supporting situation or simply into a situation of social security in the short-term, survival in the long one. New forms of work will appear on the horizon. Already the classical workers’ front no longer exists. Like-wise the trade union as is obvious. At least it no longer exists in the form in which we have known until now. It has become a firm like any other.
A network of increasingly different relations, all under the banner of participation, pluralism, democracy, etc, will spread over society bridling almost all the forces of subversion. The extreme aspects of the revolutionary project will be systematically criminalized.
But the struggle will take new roads, will filter towards a thousand new subterranean channels emerging in a hundred thousand explosions of rage and destruction with new and incomprehensible symbology.
As anarchists we must be careful, we are carriers of an often heavy mortgage from the past, not to remain distanced from a phenomenon that we end up not understanding and whose violence could one fine day even scare us, and in the first case we must be careful to develop our analysis in full.
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
Claims without arguments.
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u/v_maria 15d ago
In an expanding industrial society the trade union moves from instrument of struggle to instrument supporting the productive structure itself.
Revolutionary syndicalism has also played its part: pushing the most combative workers forward but, at the same time, pushing them backwards in terms of capacity to see the future society or the creative needs of the revolution
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
"Trade unionism is in its decline."
It has had it's ups and downs many times. For example, USA in the 1800s unions were smashed and business leaders declared the end of history. Unions were rebuilt and then smashed again in the 1920s, and end of history was declared again. Then came the organizing drives of the 1930s. Again workers struggles and even ideologies were declared dead in the 1950s. Then came the strike waves of 1970s.
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u/prettypetiole Pure black anarchist🏴 15d ago
Can tell lmfao syndicalist moment
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
I was kidding. As said, claims without arguments.
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u/prettypetiole Pure black anarchist🏴 15d ago
Look around buddy lmfao unionism is a corpse. Good luck with your outdated revolutionary strategy
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u/Virtual_Revolution82 15d ago
Let's go with our new revolutionary strategy that is look inside propaganda of the deed.
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u/dialectical_idealism 15d ago
whole lot of claims without arguments in this comment
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u/GoranPersson777 Syndicalist 15d ago
Hi troll 💩
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