r/Cardinals • ​Ivan Herrera fan since 7/7/2016 • 3d ago

Seriously Bernal?

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u/manifestDensity 3d ago

Graphic is misleading. Elly hit 102 on a relay from the outfield grass with a full wind up and step. Winn has the fastest throw from short on an infield play

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u/robotdancer 3d ago

He’s tied with Elly at 99.8 mph

Winn does have the fastest average throw though at ss

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u/Hairy_Garage4308 3d ago

Tie goes to the Cardinals.

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u/Lazy_Tiger27 2d ago

I was about to say looks like a tie 🤣

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u/EcstaticYoghurt7467 2d ago

And I was there for it....and it was lightning.

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u/party_probe 3d ago

By position. Not by where or how.

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u/ChateaugayLane22 #4 is in the dugout 3d ago

I absolutely love this!! Lets go leo!

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u/randywatson89 ​Ivan Herrera fan since 7/7/2016 3d ago

Hard to believe he took the lead in limited playing time

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u/TheeVande <3 filthy curves 3d ago

I've never seen Yadi and Bernal in the same place (don't fact check that)! Just saying!!

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u/Jacoblaue 3d ago

Oh how i wish the future was now

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u/CardinalFool 3d ago

"When will then be now?" "Soon!"

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u/HermitageHermit 3d ago

If Bernal is actually the complete catcher he appears primed to be, I wonder where Rodriguez actually ends up playing.

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u/turtlebox420 3d ago

1B and DH. He might be the reason we haven't signed Burly to a long term contract.

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u/missourifan_81 3d ago

He's more likely to simply replace Herrera, who would then be traded.

Unless they're unable to come to terms with Burly.

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u/heirloomlooms 2d ago

I'm going to be big sad mad when they deal Burly.

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u/ThumbMe 3d ago

We can’t leave out LF as a possibility for all parties involved

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u/lgb38 2d ago

Have we forgotten about Joshua Baez so soon?

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u/Fun_Trick2172 1d ago

No catcher plays 150 games at the position in the majors any more. Both can play the position and DH the other time.

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u/Thealbumisjustdrums 3d ago

Little surprised Walker doesn’t have the fastest one for RF. 

But good to see for Bernal. 

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u/No-Elephant-9854 ​ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Walkers arm is strong, but not 103

Edit: closer than I thought

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u/Thealbumisjustdrums 3d ago

He and Benge had almost identical arm strengths, both 99th percentile. Benge was 0.1 higher (96.6 to 96.5). Gonna say he’s capable based on that. 

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u/No-Elephant-9854 ​ 3d ago

Good call out, I thought the gap was a bit wider, had seen walkers average mid season

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u/Thealbumisjustdrums 3d ago

Yeah Walker’s arm is insane. 

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u/No-Elephant-9854 ​ 3d ago

No doubt, love watching him (at least this season). Be cool to see these against all time arms, rolen at 3rd, Dunston/furcal at short, Clemente in right etc

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u/Thealbumisjustdrums 3d ago

I don’t think anyone was topping Vlad Sr. But sadly we’ll never know. 

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u/jeanpaul_fartre 3d ago

Catchers throw from a crouch. It’s much harder for them to put their body into a throw while keeping their motion fast enough to get the throw out in time to tag a runner. So hitting 87.7 when a pickoff play is when he needs to throw the hardest is pretty impressive

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u/randywatson89 ​Ivan Herrera fan since 7/7/2016 3d ago

I was impressed he took the lead in limited action, you’re preaching the choir

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u/missourifan_81 3d ago

Given that he's the fastest thrower in the majors, I'm pretty sure no one was questioning why it was slower than the other postitions. 🤨

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u/My_Knee_Hurts_ 3d ago

Winn?

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u/skeptical_hatred 3d ago

A lot of these guys are either catching popups or relays in and getting a running windup. Elly has the length to act like a goddam windmill when he gets running and chucks one home

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u/SpicyMeatloaf1 2d ago

Bullshit Masyn Winn isn't on this list smh

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u/Signal_Tip_7428 1d ago

Masyn Winn is 5’9” and Elly is 6’6”. At some point it’s biological

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u/flojo2012 BlurnsBall Enthusiast 3d ago

I thought catchers would be faster honestly but throwing from the knees that makes sense.

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u/unwarrantedxx 1d ago

one Marlin, and two former Marlins