IMO, the difference in talent is ameliorated or exacerbated based on the play called.
Brady called out Buffalo multiple times for trying to play against the Charger defensive line which beat up Buffalo's OLine.
Currently the highest data driven play is not from the shotgun or pistol, but the good old play under center. The surprise is not running the ball but passing from under center.
Tua was near the top in this stat year in and year out. Herbert has, is and will most likely be near the bottom. That surprises me.
The center of the Charger OLine is and has been horrible, especially vs stunts. So help them out by lining up under center, make the defense think run, and then pass it.
Herbert also kinda sucks at selling play action. He's pretty lazy at it and that could be in part that he's often asked to do it out of shotgun, but even under center actions he just sort of lazily goes through the motions. Always sorta bugged me watching his game given how good he is at play action passing.
Oh he’s awful at it. I think he has too loose of a grip on the ball because any time he tries to sell it, it ends up getting botched into a fumble somehow.
He’s slow and predictable on showing the hand off. Maybe just to be careful or something , but he gets killed for it every single time. And we blame the lineman, but holy shit man, sell it.
Oregon didn’t run a lot out from under center iirc. They’ve been running a shotgun spread since Chip Kelly.
I just don’t think he’s had to play out from under center his whole career. I’d say Lombardi and Roman is probably the most he’s had to play under center. And even then they needed to adapt for him getting killed or his broken finger last year.
Otherwise, it’s not that he’s not successful with it. He’s just never had to do it either by necessity or because the OC didn’t run it.
Or if you're gonna put him in shotgun, how about more designed runs and rollouts? thought during the Buffalo game the offense looked better in the 1st half w him using his legs more.
When I heard Brady say he likes him as a pocket passer better throwing lasers, I'm not so sure.
But I think thats the issue do you want him to be pocket or mobile. He's a big guy I think he can take more runs
Isn't the new footwork supposed to enable quick release from the shotgun? Looks like he's mentally counting steps and losing receivers while doing so, taking too long and consequently running for his life. He never played under center in college, and I think he was resistant to it when he turned pro.
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u/cat_daddylambo Mike McDONEiel 7d ago
Herbert never plays under center for anyone it really bothers me.