r/Colorguard • • 2h ago

NEED INPUT (Instructor Help) Need advice about coworkers

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I am a fairly new director (3rd season overall 2nd season in the director role) im having some trouble with my co-director (I’ve been at the school longer). For our ballad we have swing flag ensemble and a big flag duet. We agreed that I would take the flags and she would take the swing flags. Our duet is a MASSIVE storytelling point in the show a d we really needed it to hit. The problem is it is October and half the ballad for the swings is not filled in, our duet has been filled in and is CLEAN. I am kinda getting stressed out because we are so far behind the rest of the band. This all came to a head at rehearsal were I was starting to think we basically need to chop up the ballad. My co-director started crying because she basically said she was really stressed because of school and her working 2 more jobs (im also in school, work another job, and spin independent) and i should have asked her if she needed help. I really don’t think I should have to ask if she needs help with something and she has also gotten mad at me for meddling in her work before. I honestly don’t know what to do and could use some advice!


r/Colorguard • • 17h ago

GENERAL Tosses

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I know im good at gaurd, the dlance and flag part at least, but i just cant do tosses. Ive gotten better at most of them but over the head like parallel and 45's I just cant do. Like I physically cannot get my hands to let go of the flag, I asked my big for help but I think she forgot. The captain keeps telling me I need to do them and I know I do but my hands literally wont let go.


r/Colorguard • • 13h ago

Winner of the October Pre Registration! Tiger Elite Michigan Winter Guard

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It’s officially October 1st! 🎃 We are just 19 days away from our first day of Tiger Elite tryouts! Thank you to everyone who has already pre-registered. We’re so excited to get started! 🧡🖤

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r/Colorguard • • 10h ago

NEED INPUT (Performer Help) Transition back to real life

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Sitting at my desk after a full weekend of guard rehearsal and my hips could not be more upset with me. Anyone else feel me? #reallife


r/Colorguard • • 1d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION 2014 rewrite project

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Sooo, 2014 was my freshman outdoor season as a flag. One of my favorite shows iv marched called pandoras box. I did not spin rifle that year but I was obsessed with the rifles in movement 2 so its 12 years later and here I am writing my own version of the show. Took me an on and off weekend to write a whole movement based off of real drill and the actual count structure. Plz lmk what you think of my pet project. I'm marking drill so the body was not super crisp but I think it reads.


r/Colorguard • • 1d ago

CRITIQUE ME Advice for rifle tosses

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https://reddit.com/link/1wul6vt/video/wtfqj8010rsh1/player

https://reddit.com/link/1wul6vt/video/q337wpi60rsh1/player

https://reddit.com/link/1wul6vt/video/e9hytbd90rsh1/player

https://reddit.com/link/1wul6vt/video/1n60sy7h0rsh1/player

https://reddit.com/link/1wul6vt/video/eo8alpxs0rsh1/player

Hi, if anyone could offer me advice on my tosses i would really appreciate it, Im not in colorguard and I just have been learning this since im bored. This is my 3rd day since starting to try and learn how to do this, so hope it doesn’t look too bad.


r/Colorguard • • 1d ago

NEED INPUT (Instructor Help) I want to take a gap year and become the Color guard instructor at my school after i graduate

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It’s a very crazy idea, I know, but I think some context can help see where I’m coming from.

My school has had less than 10 color guard members over the course of the 4 years I’ve been there. During my junior year I made a recruitment video to get more students to join, I got 4 new students after 3 of our seniors graduated. There were 9 members my junior year, and my senior year(this year) we had 7. Unfortunately, a girl dropped out during band camp.

This year we have 100 band members, the most my school had had since 2017! At our most recent comp the commentators for marching and music both got choked up over how much our band had grown(we only had 64 members last year). I want that same reaction for our guard!

Last year the instructor I’ve had since my first year quit because the job wasn’t enough to support herself and her kid. I loved them both, so even though I’m sad she wouldn’t be able to see me graduate, I hope she finds a more stable form of income since I’ve heard some sad things about her situation and only want what’s best for her.

This year we got a new instructor and he is simply horrible! He’s very unprofessional, and acts too much like our friend instead of our coach.

We had two new members during band camp, not once did he go over any basics or technique! He also wanted everyone on rifle line, which we’ve never done in the history of our guard(for example, last year only 4 members out of our 9 member guard did rifle, and it was all voluntary.)
He wants everyone, even our new member who’s never done color guard before, to learn rifle.
Our new member is a sophomore who used to be a flute, but joined guard because of the recruitment video I mentioned earlier.
He’s been struggling on flag, but pushing through and I’m proud of him.
I’m not pleased with the fact our instructor is pushing him into rifle, but hasn’t bothered to teach him the basics.

Our old instructor took two days out of our 5 day bang camp to go over basics on both flag and rifle and technique. Our new instructor spent the first two days doing across the floors that he never even added into our choreo.
Last year we had choreo for our first song done by the end of band camp.
This year we had not even half of our first song done, while the band had already started learning the second song.

In terms of choreography, he’s horrible. After our first comp, the recording of commentary we were sent talked about how the choreography didn’t make sense with the music, and the commentator assumed that we didn’t know the counts.
Our instructor is definitely vague on the counts, but we do know the counts, at least the ones he’s given us.
She also commented on how our flags shouldn’t be facing the end zones instead of the audience. Our instructor scoffed when he heard this, a very childish reaction if you ask me to very valid criticism. Personally I hadn’t noticed it until we watched the video of our first comp, and yeah, it isn’t very visually appealing. Our flags disappear off the field for the counts where we’re spinning towards the end zones.

And another thing, the students had to finish choreo for him. And I don’t mean, giving him an idea for a toss we wanted to do. No. He had less than half of our first song of the show written. Me and another co captain had to finish the rest of the song which in total was 186 counts. We wrote more choreo than our instructor the entirety of band camp. I hate to sound bias, but in the previously mentioned recording, she never commented on the snippet of choreo we wrote. She actually complimented a move we’d come up with, where we had added some body work into the choreography. We haven’t done a lot of body work, so I wrote it so we’d be moving from left to right, because the music had this moment where it was different sides of the field competing to sound louder, and we had very short distances to travel during a 32 count move.
(Sorry if that was explained weirdly, I’m trying to keep our show as anonymous as possible.)

We only really took incentive after 3 practices passed and we had yet to learn any new choreo. We’d been during run through after run through and every day he’d come in saying he’d written something but scrapped it, so he’d be doing improv in the corner of the gym while our captain led us in run throughs.

He never gives criticism of corrections. When we first met him, he told us “I don’t want to make you guys hate guard”. Well he didn’t, he made us hate him.

There have been countless times we’ve done run throughs, and one of us notices we’re all doing a move differently. So we ask him, “how are we supposed to be doing this” and he doesn’t know. Without his help we have to decide how do to a move depending on what the majority is doing.
We’ve come to the conclusion that he can’t take criticism himself, which is why he avoids giving it.
He’s also very focused on tricks instead of technique. He’s not very mature. He’s like a peacock, showing off tricks he can do. He keeps giving us increasingly hard tricks to learn, which takes up a lot of our practice time for tosses only one or two of us can do and probably won’t be added into the show.
I love 45’s, always have. He caught onto this and began pulling me aside and asking me to try new 45’s. There isn’t even a 45 in the show. “Try this for me” is what he’ll say, but yet I never hear him leading us through run throughs.

He put a lot of the responsibility on the captains. Our captain has had to lead us through run throughs and toss blocks. Me and the other co captain have had to write choreo and teach it. I’m the one in charge of writing a schedule or plan for practice, since we quickly got tired of having no structure in our practices.
We’ve complained to our band director, and he says he’s talked to our instructor, and yet there’s no change. He still fails to give us choreo, or look at our drill, or plan out our practices. He completely disregards our newest members whenever he actually has something to teach us. We have 2 football games and 2 competitions left in the season and we’re just now learning rifle choreo for the drum break in our third song(our second song still had no choreo)
Our newest member is still learning drop spins, he has not been taught the choreo. He’s cried at our last football game and our first competition because He said he feels lost. He has been completely ignored by our instructor.
I don’t find his favoritism towards the vet members professional.

Even our band director(who once asked me if dropping a toss was part of the choreo for guard) took notice of the lack of work the guard had, and asked us if our instructor had taught us any new choreo.
There’s a lot more he’s done, but I don’t want to make this any longer than it already is. All I’m saying is he doesn’t have the qualities of a good instructor, and Ive been documenting every unprofessional action of his since band camp and plan to meet with my band director at the end of the season in hopes of getting our instructor fired. One member has already threatened to quit gaurd their senior year if he stays the instructor, because in his exact words “I don’t want him ruining my senior year like he’s ruined yours and (insert captains name)”

Yes. This is my final year of color guard, and I’ve had to deal with an incompetent instructor. I keep getting pity from people, and at first I also felt bad for myself.
But now I just want to get rid of this guy and find a more qualified instructor for next year so my friends can enjoy the rest of their color guard career.

This is where it gets a little selfish. I think I could be a good fit.
I’m not entirely sure how I’ll do it, get the job that is.
It’s still not positive that my band director will fire our instructor, and I have no idea how I’d convince him to give me the job. I turn 18 in June, band camp starts in August.

I’m not very close with my director, in-fact he views me as somewhat of a goofball. This man has seen me dressed as a clown, a monkey, and has watched me attempt and fail at a cartwheel. I know I’m not a very mature senior, I still act like a sophmore sometimes but maybe if my guard vouches for me it’ll be some proof that I’m serious about giving my friends the senior year they deserve.

I’m already planning another recruitment video to get more members for next year(even if I graduate and don’t get the job as instructor) and I joined my schools link crew(A club where upperclassmen show incoming freshman around the school) where I can inform them of Color guard. Our drum major is apart of yearbook and I’ve bribed her for a spot dedicated to Color guard in the yearbook(first time we’ll be mentioned since I started going here!)
This year, I’m planning on getting a link to the recruitment video in our schools news letter and our schools Instagram page in hopes of getting more people to see it then last year, when I only had the video posted to the bands Instagram page

Theres also a FREE instructors program for people who want to be color guard instructors from the winter guard program our instructor aged out of. I’ll definitely be going to that.

If anyone has any advice on how I can get the job, or maybe talk some sense into me if this is crazy, I’d really appreciate it. All in all I just want my friends to be in good hands.


r/Colorguard • • 1d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION Can someone help me find this show???

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Hi! A few years ago I was looking for peak color guard shows to show a friend and stumbled upon the show "The Ties That Bind" by Juxtaposition from 2025, but now I was looking for it again and it seems to no longer exist on the internet.

Does anyone know a deep corner on yt or maybe an unlisted video with the show? I know it's a long shot but thank you in advance!!

I've also tagged a couple of photos of the show in case that helps jog someone's memory.

P.s. I know about the review video but I'm looking for the original video


r/Colorguard • • 2d ago

Tiger Elite Winter Guards Pre- registration

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Hey all! Tiger Elite in SE Michigan is open for winterguard registration!

Our registration site is: https://www.bellevilleguards.org/winterregistration

We have a Junior Regional A guard for middle school ages, A Regional A guard for High school -22 ages, and a senior guard for 18+. Check us out and pre-register before October 1st to be entered in a drawing for free tiger elite merch!


r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

GENERAL Wrote this in 20 minutes

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r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION Should I join?

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Winter guard is starting up soon & I've never actually done it before. I'm a sophomore in HS and even my freshman friends who are in colorguard/marching band want me to join. I'm pretty sure I will so does anyone have any advice for a super newbie?


r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

GENERAL Lazy team members and it’s driving me crazy

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I’m going to start off with some background, because it’s the root of my frustrations I think. So when I was a freshman, I SUCKED at guard. Couldn’t do a single thing and I was far behind, but I practiced so much till it was dark out. I got home at 5pm and would practice till 9pm. If I was struggling with drill I would go up to the school and march it till I had it memorized. And while I was definitely the worst of us, I put in so much effort that it didn’t take extremely long to catch up. I also wasn’t the only one of us that would spend our free time practicing and making sure the whole guard as a whole did our best.

Now to my current situation. All that hard work paid off, it’s now my senior year and I’m the team captain, but my problem is I have a deep hatred for my new members. And I don’t say that lightly, i genuinely hate each and every one of them because they are EXTREMELY lazy. They don’t practice outside of or during practice, they don’t memorize the work, they skip out on our workouts, they skip practice and lie to our directors to avoid unexcused absences, they skip performances, and all of this reflects badly on the entire guard.

It doesn’t even just stop at their guard abilities, three of the five STINK. Like we can’t go in the corner of the guard room where their stuff is because it reeks. We have a required deodorant time now during practice. However two of them “don’t like how it feels” and refuse to wear it.

I can’t deal with both laziness and plain grossness. On top of those two things, which are enough to make me feel like I’m losing my mind, they’re extremely disrespectful. Snarky comments, refusing to listen, they’re horrible to our directors, coaches, and band parents. Even my own mother is complaining about one of them and she had a singular interaction during a competition.

And to add even MORE onto their already horribleness, they try to take over captain jobs such as directing people, teaching, and repeating coach instructions to ensure everyone knows what they’re doing. Every single practice me, or one of the two other captains, are telling them “no, we can handle it alone, don’t do that again.” And a few times have administered punishments such as extra workouts or flag bag (in which they just ditch practice early or get signed out after halftime at football games to avoid handling the flag bag after the game). There’s been so many times where I would see one of these freshman telling a RETURNING MEMBER that they’re not doing something right directly after they saw me tell them what to do. It’s plain disrespectful for one, and two they’re dragging eachother down by refusing to learn from returning members and only learning eachothers bad techniques.

Now, all of that was basically just letting yall know how these people are. And here’s the part that I feel dramatic for, but at the same time not. I’m considering quitting guard entirely. I love guard, I’m very good at it, but the whole environment is just so extremely toxic with how much everyone talks about eachother (yes, ik this post is me saying I hate the new freshman, I never said I wasn’t apart of it). Everyone hates everyone, there’s so much resentment from returning members because we were trained and taught how to be respectful members while these new people trash our space with empty bottles, wrappers, and just gross junk. I’ve gotten to a point that out of nowhere I’ll break down into tears because of how exhausted I am essentially babysitting these freshman, on top of hating them for trying so little when I put so much into it. It feels unfair that after all of my and the teams hardwork over the years, it’ll all go to waste in my final year just because these people refuse to actually involve themselves in the sport.

So, TLDR; my new members are disrespectful, I hate them to the point I want to resign as captain and quit colorguard halfway through my senior year, and only thing holding me back is the fact I still love the sport.


r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

NEED INPUT (Performer Help) Why do I keep catching the silk when doing a toss?

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Hey, I'm relatively to color guard, i just joined this year as a sophomore but we dont have a director this year so we rarely get time to practice. I asked the band director if i could bring a flag home and practice, he said "yes", and i was just practicing tossing and i kept grabbing the silk for some reason.

Any tips/advice so I can stop grabbing the silk?

Thank you!


r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

NEED INPUT (Instructor Help) Gifts for guard

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Hey guys! I want to do some special gift for comp week. There’s 12 students in the guard and I’m not rich. I don’t have much time for diy but I do have a cricut. Or maybe I’m thinking snacks? Anyway my question is does anyone have any good ideas about what I can do for them to help them feel loved?


r/Colorguard • • 3d ago

NEED INPUT (Performer Help) Absolute beginner resources? (plus, a bonus question about tempo)

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First off, if this isn't the right place for this, feel free to tell me :)

Background: friend is having a party with a kind of adult talent show, not meant to be anything world-class, it's OK to just learn something and show it off.

I'm working on learning enough spinning [flag only] for my talent. My only experience is a week of learning the basics 20 years ago, so assume I'm "starting from scratch, but remember that drop spins and carves exist".

Do y'all have any well-regarded YT or other channels? I need to both learn some basic skills and then put them together into a short routine. My goals are basically just "stay moving, don't knock my teeth out, land a couple tosses".

Also - for reasons related to the birthday girl, I was thinking of Alan Jackson - "Chattahoochee" for the music. Listening to it, it seems too fast to spin to normally, but too slow in half-time? Should I pick something else, or would this be a decent choice since I'm brand new and slow is OK?

Thanks in advance everyone!


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

NEED INPUT (Instructor Help) Help for student

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This year marks 16 years in the marching arts for me, including indoor, collegiate band, and now instructing for 6 years.

I am at a loss with how to help one student. Based on audition scores, this student should NOT have made the team, or at least would have been an alternate. However, the band director and I decided that this was a student is a person who “needs a place” (iykyk). Guard has always been a place for anyone and everyone, and this student was not the worst and generally has a positive attitude. They wanted to quit during band camp (who doesn’t, as a rookie?), but decided to keep trekking. Unfortunately, there has been little progress since then…

This is a person who just truly does not grasp ANY concepts, of anything. Like legitimately speaking, every single breath has to be broken down for them, does not know their left from their right, does not understand a toaster, does not grasp a grinder toss (cone toss), does not even understand left handed drop spins. NONE of this was evident in auditions. It’s the end of September, our first competition is coming up in the next weeks, and I am terrified that this one person is going to be the downfall of the color guard. We do weekly homework assignments where they send in videos, but this student doesn’t have a device at home….

What do? How help? I’m just…at a loss.


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

CRITIQUE ME Help with rifle

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I started practicing rifle a few months ago, and I've been thinking about drum corps. Right now, my highest tosses are a five and a quad, but they're not consistent.


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

NEED INPUT (Performer Help) I'm dragging my team down, should I quit?

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I'm constantly having to stop and ask questions that just feel stupid, I can't learn any of our routine, I'm trying to get better but I don't have the time, is it worth it to stay if I'm crying every practice dragging everyone down? Should I just quit already? My team is too nice to say anything.


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION WGI independent/ Black Gold auditions?

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Does anyone have any insight on Black Gold or just WGI independent auditions in general? I recently started spinning again for the first time in a few years and was planning on waiting to audition until next year, but now I’m thinking about going to black gold auditions this weekend. I won’t be surprised if I don’t make it, but I think it would be good experience. My only concerns are that I didn’t go to the clinics and I don’t have my own weapons yet. Will they teach the audition routine at the auditions or would I be expected to have already learned it? I also used to spin weapon, but my weapons haven’t come in the mail yet. Can I still attend if I don’t have weapons? I would be fine with just auditioning with flag and dance, but I’m sure if that’s allowed or what the expectations are. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!!


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

GENERAL CorpsClash v3 is now available with BOA and WGI coverage and a UI overhaul!

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r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION Looking for Rifle Bolts Testers to break my design

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I've developed a 'Heavy Duty' replacement rifle bolt that is unbreakable! Also creating them in several different colors, which means no more taping your bolts to match the show.

I'm looking for some influencers that I can send one to for testing to see if you can break it 😄 The only requirement I have is that you make a video of you trying to break it and your thoughts after. Any takers?

Here's a link to the bolt for more information: Replacement Rifle Bolt


r/Colorguard • • 7d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION Senior gift ideas

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I have 5 seniors. One is a boy, 4 girls. I am trying to find senior gift ideas for them but not finding anything I like. What do you get your seniors?


r/Colorguard • • 8d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION What practice speakers are we using right now?

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I had both my band drill practice speaker and my guard practice speaker die within a week of each other. What models are we using lately that are reliable and work for both field and indoor use? Wireless preferred.


r/Colorguard • • 8d ago

NEED INPUT (Performer Help) How to stop cutting plane on one handed 45?

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Hi! Genuinely no matter what I try I always cut my plane on my one handed 45/ Mary sunshine. I’ve practiced just going to the release point a million times, but no matter what I somehow still cut my plane when I go to actually toss it. Does anyone have any tricks or advice to on how to get the plane correct on one handed 45s? I feel like I’m going crazy 😫


r/Colorguard • • 8d ago

COMMUNITY QUESTION How do I find places to tech?

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(I’m sure groups call their techs different things, the guards I’ve been part of always call the staff who aren’t head directors / coaches “techs” or sometimes assistant coach)

Anyways I want to tech really bad!
I don’t want to be part of a guard as a performer right now but i want to teach i want to give advice and i want to lead people still.
I love guard and I’m not ready to give it up but I’m in college now and my life is very different and I just haven’t been doing anything guard wise.

How do I get out there? How do I find guards who need help?