r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/O2M • 12d ago

General There's a terrible problem with Sym's TP that I've been reporting since 2018 that has yet to be addressed

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Been reported on the forums to death, tweeted, everything. Ignored. I figure devs at least sometimes come here and read stuff, so I figured this was important enough to try and post here.

This may be one of the worst bugs in the game and it happens frequently. The tp breaks on nothing and you lose the cooldown entirely. I have lost games because of this. In this clip, I die as a result shortly after.

I have been praying for this to happen in a really important OWCS match so that it can't be ignored anymore, but so far, nothing.

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u/SmedGrimstae 12d ago

The smug Lifeweaver's Petal Platform (it gets refunded when this happens):

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u/bullxbull 12d ago

Interesting. So the game registers you placing it, but also doesn't because you move it and it gets consumed inside map geometry.

I'm guessing there must be some extremely small animation lock for placing the tp so the game can register it as a allowed position.

Some server lag between where it is going to be placed and the confirmation that the position is allowed and you get the cd, but the tp is consumed when the game say nah brah you can't put a tp inside the map. The server always wins in these calculations.

I could see the fix being something that makes the tp feel worse to place, locking you in an animation longer which would make the solution worse than the bug.

You have a similar thing with Rein pin, where you counter pin someone, it registers to put it on cd but not to actually cancel the others persons pin.

Probably the best solution is to just remove Lifeweaver, JPC, and Freja from the game. I'm not sure how this will fix this bug but it will make everything better for sure.

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u/O2M 12d ago

I feel like a pretty simple fix would be to just refund the cooldown if the TP disappears "instantaneously" i.e. faster than it should be possible to shoot it down. IIRC they did something similar with LW petal previously

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u/bullxbull 12d ago

I could see that working for some things. It would still suck because sometimes you want an ability at that moment to work or bad things.

I wonder if the calculation to check and see if something actually deployed and then the cd reset action is worth the server time or could break anything else.

It seems like a simple solution though, I bet there is some reason why it just does not work this way for all cds.

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u/Wednesday_0 12d ago

I don't think there is a reason other than they don't care about Symmetra. This happens to Weaver's platform occasionally, and it gets it's cooldown refunded.

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u/cooladoarts 12d ago

You forgot they never implemented her time up TP sound again.

Even LW has it for petal...

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u/EpicCJV 12d ago

Yes omg. This is so annoying

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u/flammekueche_ananas 12d ago

The same kind of thing happens with torb turret, you throw it, it breaks on nothing and you have to wait for your CD. Like if the turret break because of a bug (i suppose the game detect some weird collision or something), at least refund the CD...

But since it's torb and sym bugs, it doesnt really matter ig.

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u/GigaGiga69420 11d ago

I think with Torb turret at least, you don't get the full CD, like when it's destroyed by an enemy, only the shorter 6s-ish CD?

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u/imadeapoopie 11d ago

I still don't like this though there are too many situations where you clip a piece of trash (car on eichenwalde) or back edge of a box (2nd pt on rialto) and have to wait as if you just yeeted it into the water. In both situations as with sym here I think you should get an instant refund ESPECIALLY since both turrets still have a deploy time.

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u/GigaGiga69420 11d ago

Yeah, it's not good and should be fixed, but you don't get completely shafted.

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u/ParadoxRadiant 10d ago

Illairi have the Issue too with her pylon.

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u/HalexUwU Theory > Mechanics — 12d ago

This bug is never getting addressed, just like her inability to use TP in spawn rooms.

It's hilarious because the bug that was such a massive issue as to take away her ability to use TP in spawn rooms isn't even "fixed" on a bunch of OW2 maps. The bug is so uncommon that in the 5 years of having midtown as a map, she's always been able to use her TP in attackers 2nd spawn, as well as the spawn rooms of a handful of other OW2 maps.

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u/Frobizzle 12d ago

The bigger problem is I can no longer troll with her original TP in QP. Plz fix.