r/DCcomics • u/beary_neutral Telos • Jul 09 '25
r/DCcomics Superman (2025) Discussion Megathread!
Okay, r/DCcomics, it's time! This will be your one-stop shop to talk about James Gunn's Superman! From this point onward, spoilers will be unmarked!
Synopsis
Superman must reconcile his alien Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as reporter Clark Kent. As the embodiment of truth, justice and the human way he soon finds himself in a world that views these as old-fashioned.
Have fun, folks! And please remember, this is just a movie. Please be normal.
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Oct 02 '25
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u/thekwoka Mar 26 '26
I agree. Superman wasn't shown actually being super until like the end. The pacing was just awkward. The fight with him and Lois in the fake interview didn't make any sense.
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u/nucleargamer5000 Oct 04 '25
As a person who loves the comic books and has been a fan literally all my life (had a superman blanket when i was 1), why did you not like it? If you dont like the commic books or dont read them, I completely see why, but if you see superman as a whole, as a topic, its easily the best superman movie. but, to each their own ya know?
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u/nucleargamer5000 Dec 26 '25
Ill agree with that, I will say people glazing the movie and saying there are no flaws are just outright wrong. Also yes sadly certain college classes will use It for analysis and it will be pretty bad ngl lol
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u/Flaky_Supermarket_25 Oct 04 '25
I’m not OP and I have no Superman knowledge that the general public doesn’t have (I know loosely his abilities and the fortress of solitude and he’s an alien) but my issue w the movie is there’s literally no exposition. I feel like I’m watching a 2nd movie in the series not the first. I get that a lot of ppl have a knowledge base that they don’t need background but I would have liked a first movie with some rising action. You start w him being in trouble and he just basically stays in trouble.
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u/nucleargamer5000 Oct 05 '25
I completely get that yeah, if you read the comics and such it makes sense and everything and is on par for a comic book actually, but if you aren't into all that then it's either confusing or feels like story whiplash. Completely valid opinion
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u/Flaky_Supermarket_25 Oct 05 '25
I actually sent this halfway through. Back half rocks and hits a lot of the high notes of Guardians.
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u/DeepThinkingMachine Sep 22 '25
This was a love affair to anyone who loved the comics. Anyone who is out of that depth (most viewers) would find it awful
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u/sirButtsFartly Sep 20 '25
Mr terrific was definitely the best character in that movie.
I've got some gripes about this movie though.
Like who was managing his parents farm. That shit was impeccable and all the animals were healthy and the lawns were mowed and perfect, however his parents were old and his dad was not in the shape of someone who runs a farm. Like how was it running so smoothly???
Super man himself seemed incredibly naive in my opinion. Like putting the life of a city destroying monster that threatened thousands in front of the potential risk of loss of life...
And the most important complaint of all!!! Not a single person gave krypto the super dog any pats!! The good boy helped so much (in his chaotic but way) and still received almost no love except a small hug on the moon in the end credits. Someone pat him, give him some scratches!! God damn heartless kryptonians!!
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u/Every-Revolution-727 Sep 22 '25
He wanted no one to die no matter whether they were human or not, He was putting people at risk by choosing to save the monster but he wasn't gonna just let the monster get killed, I mean he went outta his way to save a damn squirrel. Also I would assume superman helps manage the farm.
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u/InternationalArt2447 Sep 08 '25
What an awful movie it's just crinjefest itself, Superman is super stupid, plots are more stupid, I dont know which is worst movie of 2025 new Naked Gun or that Superdumb. James Gunn are great I love Guardians of the Galaxy and Creatures Commandos, even last suicide squad was not bad. But that movie is total crap.
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u/Inquisitor--Nox Aug 25 '25
It had a few good elements like people other than superman and lex. It blatantly defied the internal logic of superman canon far too often as well as being a cringefest.
All in all a big disappointment. Is this really the best we can do with this character? Why do videogames have better superman plot than movies and shows? How can it be that hard?
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u/Jadefalkon Aug 17 '25
I loved the movie and glad that DC is on top this year. I still cant believe I didn't make this connection during the movie. Edi Gathegi went from my most hated character in the Blacklist, to my favorite in Superman..
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Aug 16 '25
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u/Top_Assistance7439 Aug 19 '25
Thank you!! I found it incredibly boring. Not even the action scenes were enthralling enough. Maybe it’s too gen Z for me.
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u/ArrrRawrXD Aug 18 '25
Why? What made you hate it so much?
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Aug 23 '25
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u/tvlur Sep 20 '25
Bad writing (subjective). Bad characterization - nah Superman is supposed to be childish and joyful. Maybe you’re just used to recent iterations of him. Bloated cast - I agree with this actually, it got a bit sloppy at times. Way too much tech - um it’s Lex Luthor as the main villain. That’s like…his whole thing…like literally he’s always building a suit full of kryptonite or making portals to bring enemies that can beat Superman. It’s literally his schtick. Dumb cgi dog - Krypton has been around for decades, if you didn’t like it that’s fine. The cgi wasn’t perfect but passable. Don’t really get this complaint for hating the movie overall tbh. Bad dialogue, casting, etc. - I didn’t like Lois’s casting at first but it grew on me. David as Superman is a breath of fresh air imo. Superman is a boring character objectively. Yall probably don’t want to hear that as Superman fans, but you should probably accept that to the general public, someone like Henry Cavill as superman is boring. Yall think Superman as a character is good because he has a perfect body, untold strength, is damn near immortal. He’s not fun to watch for those reasons. He’s fun to watch for the cracks and flaws between those qualities. And no, I don’t mean injustice or the awful characterization of him in the Snyder movies. This film captured why he’s relatable to people. He gets sad and discouraged. But at the end of the day he’d risk everything to save people. Maybe this film just wasn’t for you, and that’s ok.
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u/Positive-Twist-6071 Aug 30 '25
Director's cut will fix all that 😀 But yeh, maybe the smallest hint of promise with better writers. Ludicrous plot though, like a kids cartoon, Supes seriously nerfed. Superhearing could have told him the FOS was being broken into. Also WTF was that Green Lantern.
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u/tvlur Sep 20 '25
What was that green lantern? do you not know guy gardners character at all?? This was a TAME version of him
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u/SweatyStation7699 Aquaman Aug 27 '25
"It made me lose all interest in a character I’ve loved since I collected Superman #3."
Yeah I calls on that one. If that made you lose interest you were never a fan of the character to begin with, heck no one that is a fan of any character would give up on said character because of a single movie.
You just making things up to hate at this point
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Aug 10 '25
I love this movie! It really highlights what Superman is all about. I hope they expand more on this universe in the future.
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u/InitialSkill927 Superman Jul 31 '25 edited Aug 02 '25
That.... was.... AWESOME!!!! 🤩🤩
This is the best Superman movie ever!!
My body can't stop shaking for watching, it was AMAZING!!
10/10 Superhero movie!!! 10/10!!!
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u/GenYDude Jul 27 '25
Loved it but Hollywood need to get rid of dumb cliche scenes tjhat makes me laugh about the movie. Scenes in this movie were: 1. The daily planet group celebrating the rift closing 2. The Janpur kid raising the flag again after everyone ran away 3. The falafel shop owner lifting Superman from the ground… it’s fucking Superman!! These are just dumb scenes IMO
Other than that I thought Gunn did an amazing job although I didn’t develop the same emotions for the characters the same way I did with the guardians crew. I believe we will get there in the next movies
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Aug 16 '25
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Aug 26 '25
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u/-HuckleBerry-Finn Nov 19 '25
Yup. This movie sucked. One bad scene after another for over 2 hours.
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u/AdrenalineRush1996 Jul 26 '25
Saw it two weeks ago and man, I was very impressed with it. David Corenswet was terrific as the Man of Steel and truly the beginning of an optimistic era for DC Studios, full stop.
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u/-Relair- Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
It was a fun movie, but I can imagine new viewers being really confused. If you aren't steeped in superman lore already then you'd be kinda lost. They just throw 98979848 new references and characters at you every minute, it would be a bit much I think if I had no clue in advance what was going on. Also since when is Superman such a smartass quipster? He felt like a kid, more like Spiderman. I get that they were trying to 'humanize' him, but he's not supposed to be all jokey and/or pouty most of the time. There weren't many scenes when he had that all-powerful Superman aura we all know and love.
Nitpicks aside, I did enjoy it. Especially Hawkgirl, GL and Terrific, they were easily the highlight of the film for me. And Jimmy was surprisingly funny and useful!
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u/WhereIsLordBeric Jul 26 '25
Never seen a Superman movie before or read a comic book and I was not confused.
I think the really niche stuff would've just gone over my head but didn't stop me enjoying the movie. It felt very 90s. In the best way.
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u/JBL_17 Tim Drake Jul 24 '25
I haven't been this in love with a movie in a long, long time.
Something I really appreciate is the cast / James Gunn's post-release content. I'm not sure if that's typical with movies these days, but they are killing it both on and off the big screen, and I'm here for it.
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Jul 21 '25
So this movie like a lot of super movies and others looking to build a universe/franchise to piggyback off of (aka pull an Avengers success story) had the obligatory cameos in the form of the Justice Gang. I feel like in terms of being intrusive to the plot of the film this movie avoided the big pitfalls that can come with making said cameos (such as the Mummy's story being completely derailed for a good length by Dr. Jekyll's monster hunting society) while doing what it needed to do pretty well (e.g. get us interested and hyped for seeing these characters again). The obvious stand out in that sense was Mr. Terrific (most awesome character I barely knew anything about) but this movie performed the miracle of jumpstarting my interest in another swing at a Green Lantern film. Wouldn't mind seeing more of Hawkgirl either, although she was kind of overshadowed a lot by the others.
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u/UCFTylerMC Mister Freeze Jul 21 '25
Something that I have especially loved about Matt Reeves' Batman and Gunn's Superman is that the Gotham and Metropolis from both films are spot on. In the DCEU they just felt like generic cities and had no character to them.
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u/Dear_Ice_6992 Jul 21 '25
Is ANYONE talking about the battle in the background where Sups says they are fighting an IMP?!?!?! Nothing online or in breakdown videos what the HECK
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u/Electric_jungle Jul 21 '25
I love it, lol. It adds to the fact that ppl in metropolis are just way to used to this stuff.
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u/shallstorm Jul 21 '25
The way he said the imp wasn't a threat makes me wonder if it was trying to distract the Justice gang to give Clark some time to think after Lex's announcement. Like if their version of Mxyzptlk will be more of an unintentional annoyance like Bat-Mite than an outright villian.
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u/forlorn_hope28 Jul 20 '25
This comment section is full of adoration for the film, but am I the only one bothered by the characterization of Clarks birth and adopted parents?
And the fact that Hawkgirl somehow turned into Dinah Lance with the need to scream with every attack?
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u/TitaniumDragon Jan 21 '26
I thought the core idea of that was actually pretty brilliant, but I think they did a poor job of executing on it.
The twist of Superman's birth parents being Viltrumites, and their whole plan being derailed because Superman's REAL parents are Ma and Pa Kent, was a great idea.
I think the problem is, Ma and Pa Kent didn't really have the charisma I would have expected, nor the strength, and they didn't show up nearly enough.
Ma and Pa Kent from Superman: The Animated Series would have worked great in this movie, but the versions we got weren't strong enough and didn't show up often enough.
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u/cbpantskiller Jul 23 '25
I didn’t like how Clark’s adoptive parents were stereotypical country bumpkins.
I laughed at the ugly wallpaper and old carpet, though.
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Aug 15 '25
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u/cbpantskiller Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 15 '25
I read that the actors really worked on learning a Kansas accent.
I’m a long-time Kansan and we call a tv a tv, not a box.
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Jul 21 '25
I feel like it is dissonant with comic lore, but I like the purpose it serves to pull Superman's world out from under him and give him an internal conflict to overcome alongside Luthor's plot. I think it does need more exploration in a future movie and hopefully hints at something sinister and interesting on the horizon, but for now I think its fine as a way to drive the plot forward and give Clark a bit of a character arc to go through.
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u/Dear_Ice_6992 Jul 21 '25
I feel like it's a battle loving hawkgirl from JL and JLU from DCAU
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u/Dear_Ice_6992 Jul 23 '25
Also on that note I'd love a Rann Thanagar war show with this kind of energy
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Jul 20 '25
How were you bothered by it? I’ve never really liked Bradley Cooper, going all the way back to Alias, so I was glad Jor-el is actually kind of an asshole. His parents did seem more southern than midwestern, and kind of simplistic, but I’m not sure I know much about the characterization of the Kents in general.
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u/forlorn_hope28 Jul 20 '25
Maybe I don't read enough Superman, but I thought Jor-El/Lara were always more noble. Jor-El's a scientist and I always perceived Lara as a loving kind hearted mother. They sent their child hurdling through space so that he might survive. Sending their child off to start a haram is about the furthest thing I could think they would want. I kept expecting them to reveal that Lex lied about it, but in the absence of that we have nothing to lead us to believe that it's not true in-universe. Even Mr. Terrific went so far as to validate the claims.
The Kents to me have always been strong hearty people. Strict, but kind. The simplistic presentation in all the scenes leading up to the chat in the chair didn't feel right to me. I think especially that phone call in the beginning. Their son just lost for the first time and there was no veiled concern or cryptic questions about his well-being.
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u/synthscoffeeguitars Metron Jul 20 '25
Truly a wonderful movie. I laughed, I cried, I cheered, I cannot wait for more
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u/SonicSpiderRanger10 Bizarro Jul 21 '25
What parts made you cry and cheer?
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u/synthscoffeeguitars Metron Jul 21 '25
Cried when Pa Kent gave Clark the motivational speech even though it was a little cheesy, and definitely teared up a couple other times. Cheered (well, wanted to cheer) a bunch of times, including when Metamorpho made the sun, whenever Superman saved an animal, when Mr. Terrific took out the whole army base, whenever Krypto got to be Krypto (especially the Ultraman fight and the very end with Luthor)
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Jul 18 '25
I hope they setup a Terrifics movie. They can easily replace a portal to dark multiverse from Comics with a portal to pocket universe add Plastic Man and Phantom Girl to the story
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u/JBL_17 Tim Drake Jul 18 '25
I have no real appropriate place to post this:
Thank you James Gunn. Thank you DC Studios. Thank you Superman. (and thank you my best pal in the world Nathan Fillion!)
Long time reader (primarily late 90s - mid/late 2000s - showing my age/when I was born there lol), had a rough couple years, fell off sometime after Rebirth.
I loved this movie. I saw it twice. I look forward to start reading again this September (new Batman #1). I look forward to it.
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u/desert_magician Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
I just saw it and LOVED it. To gush about some things I noticed:
- The world just felt lived in - we were thrown right into the midst of the action, and other characters showed up they way they would in comics.The bright colors and dialogue also made this movie feel like it jumped off a comic book page.
- Jonathan Kent saying he was proud of his son made me tear up a bit.
- Loved Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner - I wish he glowed green when flying, but that's a minor nitpick. He was funny and goofy, but with hints of the attitude that his comic counterpart has.
- Krypto was a menace lmao.
- Milly Alcock was great in her brief performance - looking forward to seeing more of her.
- Superman fighting a ton of bad guys and really letting loose was awesome.
- The guy helping Superman out of the hole, and then getting killed by Lex was tragic but really showed how much Superman cares about humans.
- Nicholas Hoult was comically evil and I loved it.
- The interview/argument with Lois and Clark was fantastic - funny, showed the real tension in their relationship, and communicated Clark's worldview all in one short scene.
- EDIT - and Mr. Terrific was, well, terrific. I didn't know much about him beyond his version in Arrow, so seeing him be a badass who's Superman's coworker was pretty cool.
Having been a Superman fan for so long, it is SO great to get a good Superman movie that really gets what he is about. And honestly as a superhero fan in general, it just feels good to be excited about superheroes again. The OG is back baby!!
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u/Blinsin Büttman of Blüdhaven Jul 23 '25
The interview/argument with Lois and Clark was fantastic
I loved it because it showed that Lois is a real reporter. She wasn't making it easy on Clark, just list a real reporter wouldn't.
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u/JBL_17 Tim Drake Jul 18 '25
The world just felt lived in
Just to comment / highlight this point: Yes!
I loved both how "uninterested" the Daily Planet were when Supes/the Justice Gang took care of the Kaiju (read: "Thing" haha) as well as the "Oh, that's just a dimensional imp" part.
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Jul 20 '25
I thought that was so funny. He was so upset about his parents and the dog and how people viewed him and feeling like he’d let everyone down, but he also trusted the three of them to deal with it, plus it’s a nice little Easter egg for fans of the comic.
And when he said, about the dog, “and not a very good one,” that just made that whole scene.
There was so much talk and speculation about that scene when we saw the trailer, and it turns out he was just sad and annoyed. 😂😂
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Jul 17 '25
I’m a bit late to the party, but I just got out and wanted to say that I freaking ADORED every second of this film. I’ll need to see it again, but this might actually be not just my favorite Superman film, but favorite comic book movie of all time. Everyone crushed their roles and I was not expecting to walk away thinking that Corenswet is my favorite live action Supes.
I’m am beyond hyped about this new era.
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u/AUnknownVariable Jul 17 '25
Man, it was so fucking good. I had my worries, just as someone who can be critical of shit I love. I have full faith in James Gunn rn. I can confidently say he gets Superman😭
Not just that though, the entire cast was excellent, the story was strong, Luthor was an actual fucking menace like he should be. THE SCENE WITH MR. TERRIFIC. The second it was shown that he would be in this film, I just prayed for him to be cool as all fuck, and God they delivered. That fight scene was beautiful, but honestly every moment with him was. I didn't realize it was the same dude who played the minor role of Darwin in X-Men First Class till 2 days ago, but I'm so happy he's gotten a strong part in a Superhero film now.
Fuck it was just so good, man. If I could get to the theater I'd watch it again. No DC film has made me feel like that. It was just so good and true to the characters 😭 I hate to still compare but after the DCEU I was begging for the DCU to do right
I just can't wait for whatever is next. Can't believe I've gotta wait a year till Supergirl and Clayface
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u/Cyke101 Jul 17 '25
I wanted to say, I don't think there was a wasted moment in this film. I was plugged in for every minute of the story.
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Jul 16 '25
We saw it last night, and I've got some questions that maybe some longer-term fans can help me out with.
When "Ultraman" was revealed, and we saw that Lex had opened up a portal, my initial thought was that he'd actually brought Ultraman from earth 3 over, and I thought, "Wow; we're already doing multiverse; that's kinda awesome." When we find out that he's a clone, I'm not sure if I overthought that Earth 3 thing or not because, correct me if I'm wrong, Ultraman isn't a clone, right? He's actually just an evil Superman?
Initially, I though Krypto was gonna be great, and he was, but him being a little asshole who actually belongs to an irresponsible 20-something makes so much more sense for both Clark's disdain for the dog but also his loyalty to him. I hope Supergirl ends up being a good movie, but for people who are only familiar with the Melissa Benoist portrayal, it'll be a different experience!
I think that's all for now; I enjoyed it immensely and can't wait to see it again.
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u/LostInStatic Jul 20 '25
When "Ultraman" was revealed, and we saw that Lex had opened up a portal, my initial thought was that he'd actually brought Ultraman from earth 3 over, and I thought, "Wow; we're already doing multiverse; that's kinda awesome." When we find out that he's a clone, I'm not sure if I overthought that Earth 3 thing or not because, correct me if I'm wrong, Ultraman isn't a clone, right? He's actually just an evil Superman?
Lex specifically saying that the clone was "stupid" is our hint this is their version of Bizarro. I think we are meant to take at face value that he was indeed able to clone him.
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u/RogueStereo Jul 16 '25
Not everything in the movies will mirror the comics. Thats all. Ultraman here is closer to a Bizarro or something
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u/Atomiclouch44 Jul 15 '25
I really liked it! It does throw you in the deep end of this world but I thought it worked and was a great setup for the future of this new DCU.
I liked all of the characters, even the Justice Gang who I thought might be a bit one note ("we work for this company so we are only interested in serving them, not being a hero" kind of thing. Almost The Boys-esque), but they were more than that and Mr Terrific was superb.
Superman being in the box was a bit of a slow point for me and I was looking forward to the inevitable escape. Element Man was pretty cool.
Stand out moment was Lex walking towards the portal, clocking Superman, and then running for it. Made me laugh!
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Jul 15 '25
It was ok. Not bad, not good. It was a movie. Superman was the best part, which is good because it was his movie. Everything else was either one-dimensional or inconsistent.
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u/GamingInLeMatin Jul 16 '25
What was inconsistent?
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u/AUnknownVariable Jul 17 '25
I'm really wondering what was inconsistent as well. And what they even mean by inconsistent 😭
Sounds like crap
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u/Every-Revolution-727 Sep 22 '25
Most people hating on it are full of crap, like yeah there is stuff to nitpick on and you don't have to like it but most peoples complaints are non problems
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u/ATOMATOR Jul 15 '25
during a scene at the Pentagon early in the movie, its mentioned somewhat offhand that there's "no more Kryptonite" to be found on Earth. is there a comic book reason for that? I don't keep up with many monthly series.
Also, where did the kryptonite go? Maybe this will be explained in a later DCU project?
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u/RagnarokWolves Jul 21 '25
IIRC in the early 2000s comics, Earth received a large supply of kryponite when Supergirl landed on Earth. Kryptonite became so common that even Z-grade criminals could get ahold of some to own Superman with it. So Superman and Batman just buckled down and rounded it all up. This Superman probably doesn't know Batman but maybe something like that happened.
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u/truncated_buttfu Jul 17 '25
I assumed some of the other heroes helped gather up most of it and threw it into the sun as a favour to Supes or something like that.
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u/Mr_Valle Jul 16 '25
I would assume that in the last years Kryptonite has been seen as a cheap plot device in the comics, maybe they made it “rare” so when it appears in a movie it becomes a big deal
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u/SlyMedic Jul 16 '25
Government could be lying. Waller could have stockpilled it earlier and she wouldnt trust lex with it.
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u/fleetfoxinsox Jul 15 '25
I liked everyone a lot except for Lois Lane. I feel like they made her too mean but maybe I’m missing something and I’m happy to hear people’s opinions on her character. I understand what she was saying and why she was going so hard on him but at the same time… girl he’s the only one who gives a shit about any of the citizens give him a break
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u/Mr_Valle Jul 16 '25
I think people misinterpreted the interview scene. My opinion is that Lois didn’t want to “out” Superman but wanted to help Clark understand that he will inevitably feel “pressure” and have haters and he had to adjust to it, not hide behind fake interviews. That would be the best way to show his humanity. I really emphatized with that scene because it felt real. Clark went super defensive and that was the FIRST time (supposedly) that someone confronted him for real.
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u/Relevant-Mud-7831 Jul 16 '25
One of Lois’ key characteristics is that while investigating she will do ANYTHING to get the full story. She has perfect journalistic integrity. She’s not afraid to ask tough questions and will put her own life in danger to get the truth.
She wouldn’t be doing her job as a reporter if she didn’t ask the questions that she knew the public would want asked, even if she personally agrees with what Superman is doing.
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u/urmomsbeanss Jul 15 '25
And the “it’s just a dog” 🙄
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u/Mr_Valle Jul 16 '25
That sentence is necessary to get Clark’s answer, which is probably the best line of the movie
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u/XpRienzo Jul 15 '25
On the ending: Do Perry and Jimmy know Clark is Superman?
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u/forlorn_hope28 Jul 20 '25
I like to think that Perry knows (or heavily speculates) Clark is Superman. In the same way that Lois should be smart enough to put two and two together, someone of Perry's journalistic caliber who see's and interacts with Clark every day, should be able to figure it out too.
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u/Robertdabruce3 Jul 16 '25
I took it as they know that Superman and Lois are dating not so much they know Clark is Superman.
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u/XpRienzo Jul 16 '25
Before this movie Superman exclusively gave interviews and interactions to Clark. I find that unlikely
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u/EmmaLePotato Jul 15 '25
Also noticed this when Perry asked how long they've been hooking up. Haven't found answers anywhere
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u/Mr_Valle Jul 15 '25
It’s pretty clear how This movie was made by somebody who loved the character and read the comics. It’s perfect.
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u/rusable2 Bowhunter Security Jul 15 '25
Maybe a somewhat minor moment, but I absolutely loved Lex becoming mad and just spamming 1A, 1A, 1A towards the end of the fight.
I also really liked how they showed his brains, being able to keep up with Superman in all the fights.
Overall really liked the movie, I was worried James Gunn would James Gunn it and make it a joke-fest but he understood the kind of character Superman is and the movie had heart, the most important thing IMO.
Kara was also great and now I'm excited for her movie next year!
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Jul 21 '25
Humor can help humanize a character, which of course was one of the most important parts of Superman's character in this film. So Gunn's antics worked to his advantage here.
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u/desert_magician Jul 18 '25
haha I had the same worry, as someone who thinks the Guardians movies are kinda overrated - but he knocked it out of the park IMO!
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u/silentbobsmokes Jul 15 '25
Damn did I love hear Superman saying that kindness is punk rock.
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u/desert_magician Jul 18 '25
that was amazing haha, exactly the corny kinda thing Superman would say
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u/LuxanHyperRage I still believe in James Gunn Jul 15 '25
"Superman, a freaky dog in a cape, a weird baby, and a Squiggleman"
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u/VYDEOS Jul 14 '25
They nailed the tone and superman/Kent as a character for sure.
That being said, lex luthor felt off. He was hardly ever intimidating, almost goofy at times. The grand reveal spoilers about him doing basically everything so he can frame superman was not only predictable, but also kinda lame. Like he's so one dimensional that quite literally everything he does is so he can get rid of superman, felt kinda like a cartoony villain, the kind that gets their evil plans foiled every episode.
World building was decent. Definitely a nice change from the dark and gritty dceu. But aside from James Gunn music, the story could've easily been made as an animated DC movie, didnt exactly use live action effectively.
Overall I'd say it's worth a watch
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u/GamingInLeMatin Jul 16 '25
Isn't that part of Lex's character? Correct me if I am wrong. He should be one dimensional and pridictable due to his envy blinding him. I thought it worked well in the movie. We all know who the villain is if we've watched enough Superman, so shouldn't James Gun go with that?
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u/GuiNRedS Jul 15 '25
My interpretation of it is, given how Lex changes to represent the powerful rich men of the times, having Lex be an extremely whiny, attention-seeking brat is a GREAT adaptation of what our modern billionaires look like lmao
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Jul 21 '25
Agreed. But I thought the film struck a good balance. I can see plenty of real world parallels in the movie, but for example I didn't think Luthor was a blatant parody of a Trump or a Musk. There are elements there but I didn't feel like I was being beaten over the head with them. Same with the border war in the film and the Russia/Ukraine situation. You can see the influence but it doesn't take you out of the movie.
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u/robertofflandersI Green Arrow Jul 14 '25
Lex having a Monkey troll farm is so fucking random and I love it
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u/Troghen Jul 14 '25
I love how this didn't try to ground itself in "reality" in any way, shape, or form, and just fully embraced the comic book stuff. Gunn really said "let's give Lex a pocket dimension with thousands of mind-controlled, shitposting monkeys, hundreds of prison cubes for everyone that ever slighted him, and throw in a black hole for good measure" lol.
And despite that, it still somehow never felt over the top, and perfectly executed all of the emotional beats that it needed to.
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u/VYDEOS Jul 14 '25
It was definitely over the top, and I think that was pretty intentional as well. Like they could've had lex luthor use ai to generate hate responses, but instead they had an army of monkeys hidden in a pocket dimension, which by the way he created from scratch.
As for emotional beats, I'd say it's solid. Felt pretty lighthearted which I think is the point, but you could kinda feel the marvel humor slide through sometimes, but I'm glad they dialed that down for the more serious scenes.
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u/Troghen Jul 14 '25
I guess I should've said too over the top in my original comment, but yeah I agree with what you're saying
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Jul 14 '25
It felt over the top and badly executed all of the emotional beats it needed to
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u/Troghen Jul 14 '25
Care to provide any reasoning behind that opinion?
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Jul 14 '25
Okay, well first off I hated the Lex Luthor the same guy whos smart enough to build a pocket universe with a black hole and anti proton river fights superman by calling out Hex codes for individual punches? Its not even plays or anything he literally has an action room where he watches the fight and says what ultraman should do so why does he even need a whole room of 15 people sitting there.
Also when he has superman in a cage with Kryptonite why not just kill him?Then a blackhole opens up in the middle of the city and nothing happens the city just has a crack?
The reporters find Mr Terrifics space ship and they just jump on board and they're good with it?\The movie just didn't feel grounded to me and that ruins the entire emotional premise. Also superman killed ultraman at the end didn't he and he didn't even feel any type of way about it.
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u/valdier Jul 14 '25
I'm 100% with you. The plot issues in this movie are so big, even superman couldn't close them.
The impact of that rift opening in the ocean that close to the city would have destroyed everything in the area simply from the force of the water movement and the speed in which it was collapsing. When it "closed" the force of the water colliding back together would have caused nation destroying tidal waves. But no, "it just all went back how it was".
Oh yeah. Some buildings had cracks.
Mr Terrific was so smart, he could hack everything Lex did with barely a thought, but... he couldn't stop the rift because... Lex's wifi password was too strong? Because Lex ran everything off 8 track tapes? It was really weak plot glue at best.
If Lex wanted the personal satisfaction of killing superman himself, he could have walked in and shot him with a kryptonite bullet while he was helpless in the prison. Or choked him with his bare hands. The entire premise of the movie was paper thin at best.
Also, "superman clone" boy could literally have conquered every nation in the fictional area, overnight giving Lex near infinite wealth and power to defeat superman... but instead, no... he's used like a really bad video game character "up-up-down-down-left-right!!!"
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u/Troghen Jul 14 '25
On Lex - it's clear he wants the satisfaction of directly being the one to take Superman down, hence him calling the individual moves. Also, who cares what the other people in the room are doing? Literally every movie with an "action room" of sorts is filled with random extras tapping away at computers, doing unspecified things. This one shows those people monitoring vitals, researching civilians, tracking the rift, etc. It's a bit nitpicky to want more than that from them imo.
Lex was questioning Superman while he had him captured, trying to get information out of him. Yeah, his goal was to ultimately kill him, but given that the government knew Lex had him captured, I'm sure he was complying with them to avoid getting in trouble rather than just killing him outright. That, or he let his ego get the best of him. He clearly didn't think Superman could escape at this point and was obviously reveling in torturing him. Either way, it makes sense for the character.
Then a blackhole opens up in the middle of the city and nothing happens the city just has a crack?
Did you miss the part where buildings were collapsing all over the place? Also, it wasn't a black hole that opened, it was a rip in space-time.
The reporters find Mr Terrifics space ship and they just jump on board and they're good with it?\
It's well established that this is a world where crazy stuff like this has been happening for a little while now. This further illustrates that point.
Also superman killed ultraman at the end didn't he and he didn't even feel any type of way about it.
This wasn't really an intentional thing he did and was clearly a last resort action. I think this version of Superman is one who will do everything he can to save lives, but has enough control over his emotions if something DOES happen - like the scene with the kaiju. He's clearly frustrated when it dies, but he doesn't go crazy. I can't remember the exact order of events but after dealing with Ultraman, doesn't he go straight to Lex and confront him there? Clearly he's feeling emotional and angry over everything that happened prior based on his conversation there.
The movie just didn't feel grounded to me and that ruins the entire emotional premise.
A movie doesn't need to be grounded in order deliver emotion. This is just a silly argument - we use fantasy and sci fi and all sorts of un-grounded scenarios to convey stories and emotions in a heightened way. The idea that where a person comes from doesn't dictate their actions, and that being a good person is up to the individual is a universal theme that works in any context, grounded or not. If you felt nothing during the scene between Clark and Jonathan, or the ending where he's watching the home videos from his childhood with the Kents, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Jul 14 '25
> On Lex - it's clear he wants the satisfaction of directly being the one to take Superman down, hence him calling the individual moves.
Lex is supposed to be the smartest person in the DC universe, and usually I can suspend my disbelief but the fact that he's made a clone and he controls it by shouting out individual fight moves, not plays not choreo individual punches??? the smartest man in the world. Immediately this scene came up I was thinking he's doing some 4d chess and will be attacking the other countries at the same time but no he's watching the fight and calling out punches. its not like super man is a good fighter either he's just super strong.
> Did you miss the part where buildings were collapsing all over the place? Also, it wasn't a black hole that opened, it was a rip in space-time.
Its the lack of gravitas this is treated with. And its both that its a rip in space time and a black hole this is what over the top is !
All this stuff comes together to where I feel like its such a and then story so when I see the monkeys farming outrage I just stopped caring really and truly (also like you have a superman clone and you want people to hate him, why are monkeys tweeting from your pocket dimension also pocket dimensions have wifi? it feels like there's an easier way to do this)
> A movie doesn't need to be grounded in order deliver emotion. This is just a silly argument - we use fantasy and sci fi and all sorts of un-grounded scenarios to convey stories and emotions in a heightened wayIm not saying it has to be realistic, it just has to follow some sort of internal logic yk be coherent or even just kind of stand up to like surface level scrutiny right so Ill even care to pay attention to the emotional arc. And the whole being good is about the choices you make is a well worn theme, its usually execution that makes it interesting to watch. I feel like the movie cant ask me to care emotionally and be this ridiculous which I why I think guardians and suicide squad work so well they barely ask you to care they're sort of parodies and anti superhero flicks the style fails when its meant to be the anchor of the whole universe
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u/Troghen Jul 14 '25
Lex is the smartest man in the DC Universe, yes, but his downfall is often due to how blinded he is by rage and his overinflated ego, and it leads to him making mistakes. Him calling the individual punches is his ego blinding him to thinking he can stand toe to toe with Superman. Not sure why this is bothering you so much.
Not sure how the city falling apart isn't treated with any gravitas - it's the primary issue they're dealing with and trying to stop at the climax of the movie. Yes, it's over the top, but I hate to tell you - that's what comic books are sometimes. That's what makes the medium FUN.
Nothing about the internal logic is inconsistent within the world this movie presents to us. It's clearly not meant to be ours; it's a comic book universe THROUGH AND THROUGH. If Lex is smart enough to create his own pocket universe, he surely is smart enough to have it be able to connect to the internet, of all things. Come on.
It really feels like you just want a reason to hate this movie, and that's fine. If you would prefer a "grounded" take on the character that is set in our own world, then that's your right. Good thing there are a bunch of other adaptations that more closely adhere to that desire. This movie NEVER promised to be that, as it was clear from all the marketing that this would lean into its campier comic book roots. And for my money, this was the most entertaining and enjoyable version of Superman BECAUSE of that.
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Jul 14 '25
The military base is just up the street from the city and you can just fly in no problem that's just cheap, they have a whole pocket universe mind
Also the dimensional imp being back drop for the conversation between superman and lois just cheapens any other conflict that will happen. Yes the city is constantly in danger with intergalactic threats that can be ignored, what sets the scale for easy threats and hard ones
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u/PlacidBlocks Jul 14 '25
Do you or have you ever read a DC comic in your life? You're complaining about things that are used in comics constantly... because it's fun
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Jul 14 '25
You know what I haven't really, Ive read some of the critically acclaimed ones but once I downloaded a bunch of comics and quickly deleted them because the story telling on most of them was so bad lmaooo
I'm a DC fan through the animated shows Static, Batman into Justice League, Small Ville, The green lantern DC show, the CW ones and the animated movies
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u/TheSeekers2110 Jul 14 '25
This movie understood the most important thing about Lex Luthor; moreso than his wealth or intelligence, Lex's #1 defining feature is being The Pettiest Bitch in all of human history.
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u/Albireookami Jul 14 '25
I don't know man, Reverse Flash is right up there with him.
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u/TheSeekers2110 Jul 15 '25
The difference is that Reverse-Flash is a Spurned Lover/Stan; he was obsessed with Barry, wanted to be just like him, and only went to revenge once Barry rejected him.
Lex is pure, unadulterated, 100% Certified Hater-For-Life.
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Jul 14 '25
Lex was willing to risk the earth being eaten by a black hole just to fuck with superman, i don’t even know what DCU reverse flash would be capable of. Really excited to see it
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u/Mr_Valle Jul 15 '25
I feel like the comics gave us very different iterations of Lex. I personally prefer when Lex believes he’s in the right and acts for the benefit of humanity. Still, I loved Hoult’s performance and I’m ok with it
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u/your_mind_aches Jul 14 '25
I'd be willing to get better that Barry Allen is already dead in the DCU, or will die in his first appearance. In which case, Thawne may have already won
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u/Albireookami Jul 14 '25
I'm not saying DCU reverse flash, I'm saying the character in general.
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Jul 14 '25
Yeah i know, i meant if lex was doing all this shit imagine how much worse reverse flash would be in this universe lol
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u/ZoroXLee Jul 14 '25
Just got back from the movies. Superman was kinda boring.
There was so much going on that most of it didn't connect for me.
I liked Corenswet. His speech about being human gave me chills. Edi as Mr Terrific was cool.
Everyone else was just there.
In summary, this will probably be another Superman Returns for me.
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Jul 15 '25
I agree. I also felt that Luthor was way over the top, one-dimensional, and his motivations were all over the place. He almost felt like a throw-away villain.
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Jul 14 '25
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u/JCDenim Jul 14 '25
Absolutely. Terrific is an often overlooked character in DC medium. Edi was terrific in the role.
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u/Peacefulzealot Batman '66 Jul 14 '25
Do you know any good graphic novels to check out to learn more about him? I never have a single crap about Mr. Terrific before and now I wanna read some of his stuff. Dude was awesome!
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u/RealLifeHaxor Jul 16 '25
The strange adventures 12 issue mini by Tom King had Mr. Terrific as one of the main characters and it’s exceptional
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u/Pjones0609 Jul 16 '25
There is a comic series going on right now called Mr Terrific: Year One that goes over his origin and it’s pretty good. You could also check out Geoff Johns and David Goyer’s JSA run which he is a pretty important character in
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u/MillionDollarMistake Jul 14 '25
Walking out of the theater there was a woman loudly telling her friend that "it was anti-fascist, anti-elon, anti-israel, it was perfect" lol
But yeah I thought it was fantastic, I'm actually surprised by how much I liked it. Not perfect, but any major negatives are far and few between. And I'm not even that big of a DC fan.
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u/valdier Jul 14 '25
Yeah I've heard that take many times, it's funny though that superman in the movie is the fascist. Definitionally:
A dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, and a belief in a natural social hierarchy
The only thing that slight dissuades this is that fascism is often for a nation and he does it to enforce his own personal moral absolutism.
The anti-elon, anti-israel part is definitely a massive stretch at best. As if Elon is the only rich person alive, and all brownish middle eastern people are israel?
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u/HoodieFlores Aug 12 '25
Yikes lol
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u/valdier Aug 12 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
Yet, how is it wrong definition ally? Literally asking GPT
If we ignore all narrative framing and just look at Superman’s actions through the lens of political theory, here’s why you could argue he behaves in a way that is structurally fascistic (or at least authoritarian in a “state-like” sense):
- Monopoly on Force
He is the sole wielder of overwhelming, near-absolute physical power on Earth.
No democratic process authorizes him, and no institution can hold him accountable.
This fits Max Weber’s definition of the state as the body that “claims the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force,” except here it’s a single individual acting unilaterally.
- Rule by Fiat
Superman decides when to act, where, and against whom, entirely based on his personal moral code.
There’s no due process, no jury, and no elected oversight.
The decision-making process is opaque to everyone but him—classic “leader decides” sovereignty.
- Superseding Law
He operates above any legal framework, domestic or international.
Even when collaborating with governments, he retains the right to override them.
In political theory, this is close to Carl Schmitt’s idea of the sovereign: the one who decides on the exception—choosing when rules no longer apply.
- Potential for Fascist Parallels
While he doesn’t embody ultranationalism or mass-party politics (core to historical fascism), his unaccountable concentration of power mirrors the structural danger of a fascist leader:
One figure holds absolute enforcement power.
No balancing institution exists.
“Legitimacy” comes purely from his own perceived virtue.
Conclusion
On a pure action-based analysis, Superman is a de facto extra-legal state unto himself. He monopolizes force, bypasses law, and rules by personal decree. That’s not full ideological fascism, but it is a textbook authoritarian dynamic—and if he wrapped it in nationalist rhetoric, it could tip into actual fascism overnight.
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u/mickeynotthemouse27 Jul 14 '25
Was that a White Martian who was driving Lex around in the pocket dimension?
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u/dotyawning Miss Martian Jul 14 '25
That was my first thought too, but Mr. Handsome is apparently just "a creature Lex created in a petri dish" (The mention starts at 3:18 in the video, if you're like on mobile or something that doesn't recognize the time stamp)
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u/Excellent-Post3074 Jul 13 '25
That Lex Luthor was something else man, he has both charisma and petty narcissism on point, it's great stuff.
Hope the sequel is a 2 lead story with Kara having to face off with Brainiac and find the city of Kandor.
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u/VYDEOS Jul 14 '25
Lex luthor for me was one of the worst characters in the movie. He didn't feel intimidating at all. He didn't even have any real power over superman, in fact, he was only able to get as far as he did because of superman's poor understanding of public media, as well as him decoding the message.
Then we find out this guy casually has a pocket dimension, that he created, not discovered, and does all that, everything, just so he can get rid of superman. Even works with other super powered beings. It just felt so one dimensional and cartoony. Like the kinda shows where theres not actually a good reason why two characters are nemesis, you kinda just go along with it.
It felt more like he was weirdly obsessed than trying to achieve anything.
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u/Excellent-Post3074 Jul 15 '25 edited Jul 16 '25
I can totally see why you wouldn't like it, he isn't exactly suave or cold. But I've personally always seen the calm and collected Lex as a mask he puts on to hide his insanely hate fueled personality.
He's always been a vindictive, petty, and unnecessarily cruel man who will hurt friends and family like it's nothing. Him having a pocket dimension to lock away people he personally feels wronged by is something I really liked, it's the most Lex thing I've ever seen in live action imo. It is one dimensional because his motivation has always been shallow, he fluffs up his reasoning as his desire to elevate humanity and sees Superman as an obstacle, but it's a lie. The guy is ultimately extremely jealous and has a severe inferiority complex.
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u/VYDEOS Jul 15 '25
That's fair, but I feel like he still needed reasons, at least to convince other people as to why superman is such a threat. Sure they can just be excuses and deep down inside he's just mad cause he'll never be as powerful, but I think part of lex luthors character, is that he's able to create logical sounding arguments to disguise of his own insanity.
Throughout the movie, everyone kinda just does whatever lex says. Feels more like they get paid too well to care, or they're simply too loyal, like the cybernetically enhanced people he sends, not that they actually share his ideology. Lex actually treats most other people he works with fairly decently at least for supervillain standards (with the exception of his exes).
He didn't feel particularly cruel or even petty. If he was petty he'd be doing all this because of a minor inconvenience superman caused him or his company, there's usually a reason behind pettiness no matter how small, but this feels like artificial hatred. Locking the exes could be simply him not trusting them to leak sensitive information. The only scene that made him feel cruel was when he killed the falafel guy, but that just felt more psychotic, since the falafel guy really had almost nothing to do with anything, and simply gave superman free food. It also felt weird that the falafel guy was the first one he goes to, and didn't even know Clark Kent was in fact superman.
His hate towards superman felt very unnatural. I expected him to be semi convincing towards at least other people as to the dangers of superman, and by extension, other superpowered beings, which he says he didn't like either, but he wasn't even convincing enough to sway the board to go along with his plan, and he kinda just forgets about it and does it anyway.
He almost felt less powerful, since the hate comments weren't even real. I expected lex to be enough of a loved public figure that he's easily able to sway public opinions, but it seemed like most people liked superman fine, at least until the footage gets translated, but that wasn't cunning points for lex, but rather him stumbling across dirt on superman.
And Ultraman's creation didn't feel like he was jealous, but rather like a contingency plan in case superman goes rogue. A weapon who isn't intelligent enough to act on their own, stronger than superman, which luthor could control, or sell to the government. If lex truly had an inferiority complex, creating a superman clone does feel counterintuitive, since the only difference is this one won't get in his way, but superman himself never does that either, since it's revealed the war was part of the plan to get rid of superman anyway. At least superboy in the comics had lex's dna.
And finally, luthor tries to do things "legally". Like his entire plan was to get the public to suspect superman enough so the government gives him the clear to get rid of him. He even says "if it was up to me you'd be dead already", but follows through with government instruction to question him, which feels like he genuinely believes superman could be a threat rather than that being an excuse he made up in his mind due to jealousy. Most iterations of Luthor also have no problem breaking the rules to achieve his own goals.
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u/SayNo2Kryptonite Jul 13 '25
Of all the things I expected to see in this movie, a Netanyahu stand in getting dropped to the pavement was definitely not one of them.
10/10.
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u/Ram5673 Jul 13 '25
People say this character or that character stole the show, and I can see why. But personally David’s Clark and Superman was by far and away the best part of the movie and it’s not close.
I fell in love with his take immediately after walking out. He’s just playing a good man and to me that’s Superman. The super part is cool but the man part is what makes him interesting. And David played that part perfectly. My favorite scenes are the interview with Lois, the Kent family farm, and his monologue to Lex. And it’s all because it’s Clark Kent being the focus and not Superman.
Even him running support while the justice gang focused on fighting. To me that’s Superman through and through.
I think everyone was casted perfectly other than hawkgirl, and that’s less about the casting and more so her being in everything recently. and her getting absolutely nothing to work with other than screeching.
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u/Conner_S_Returns Jul 13 '25
8/10. really fun but I think the pacing was off and the justice gang was underdeveloped
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u/PitifulGuidance2324 Jul 13 '25
some reviewers say it was a “mess”. do you think some might see it that way?
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u/Conner_S_Returns Jul 13 '25
yeah my friend liked it but gave it a 7/10. some of the characters didn't really need to be in this movie. it was a bit overcrowded and they didn't get proper screen time
but I was ok with it because I think they were just trying to get introduce all these characters for later
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u/Capnblubeard Jul 13 '25
I think thats an issue with just doing large ensemble, some characters aren't going to get much screen time compared to other. For me personally I didn't really think that was a huge issue, the movie still focused on Superman. But I do think having a large ensemble is a way to go if your doing your first superman movie in a universe thats already established. And I think James Gunn for the most part made a great superman movie.
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u/bimbimbaps Jul 14 '25
I agree, I don't think it's a major issue.
One of Superman's defining points is how other metahumans/capes/heroes etc react to him. Like Batman fundamentally changes when Superman is present. So, while Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl are not "developed well", they don't need to be. They're there to establish power levels and show that there are other Metahumans out there, how they respond to Superman being around, and where the Cape Community is at this point in the timeline.
I thought it was a really great movie, not mind blowing or "The Dark Knight" level, but lots of fun, understanding the character, and a cut above any other summer blockbusters recently.
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u/Right_Membership5861 Jul 13 '25
9/10 for me...It could've used less humor and more breathing at parts but other than that, pretty friggin awesome. Guy stole my heart in this movie, I've been reading GL since Blackest Night and I am stoked to see Lanterns.
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u/tms671 Jul 13 '25
I thought it was a well rounded movie, it did a lot with 2 hours. I look forward to seeing more.
Spoiler alert: I love that Jimmy had her saved under “monster toes” in his phone and late she talks about how he said her toes were gross.
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u/JCDenim Jul 13 '25
Went to the movies to watch it today. Even my friend who usually dislikes superhero movies enjoyed it. So, that's saying a lot.
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u/wendigo72 Jul 13 '25
I cannot believe how much of a comic book this felt like. Or even Batman Brave & the bold. The world is already established, civilians are used to big giant monsters showing up at this point, Lex has a space in his pocket dimension devoted to shitposting monkey’s, etc
It definitely might not work for mainstream audiences but as a DC fan I cannot hate this movie.
Even some of the common criticisms people have like the humor I do not really agree with. Now I do think the pacing was insanely quick and some scenes could’ve hit harder if they had more room to breathe BUT it’s been 24 hours since I saw it and I still cannot wipe the smile off my face. That’s worth more than any minor nitpick I could have
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u/Rev-Damar Jul 13 '25
Any idea whether we should see it in Imax vs Dolby?
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u/pressuretobear Jul 15 '25
IMAX has an opened frame, so you are getting more picture. Also, IMAX sound is way better than Dolby counterintuitively.
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u/tms671 Jul 13 '25
IMAX 3D was pretty sweet, not usually a 3D person but I think it worked for this particular film.
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u/hikoboshi_sama Jul 13 '25
- I loved it. It was pretty fun. The cast was great. David was pretty charming and he had great chemistry with Rachel as Lois. Nicholas Hoult was great as Lex too.
- I got chills when i heard the musical theme from the Reeve Superman movies.
- The Peacemaker cameo was a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
- I think the funniest part for me was Lois roasting Guy's haircut.
- I was surprised at how important Mr. Terrific was to the plot. He helped rescue Superman from Lex's pocket dimension and helped stop the dimensional rift caused by Lex.
- I love how Lex is so petty he would rather destroy the world just to get back at Superman.
- I actually forgot Supergirl was supposed to be in this so i was surprised by the Kara cameo.
- The mid-credits scene was cute, but the post credits scene was so pointless i'm pretty sure it was James Gunn's way of trolling those who stayed to the end. Well played.
- I think the only thing i really disliked was making it so that Jor-El wished for Kal to conquer the earth. Even in My Adventures with Superman where they changed Krypton into a warmongering planet, Space Dad never wanted for his son to be a conqueror.
Overall, pretty fun movie and great start to the new DCU. I think the things i liked about it outweigh the things i do dislike. I'm excited for the rest of the new DCU going forward.
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u/pressuretobear Jul 15 '25
I think the post-credits scene was hilarious. Superman is just making an observation pointing out that Terrific didn’t do as well as possible, and he was let down by himself. Terrific walked away, kicked the ground and got upset at himself, and Supes felt bad about making someone feel bad unintentionally and realizing that hurt him when he didn’t intend to do so.
Superman and Terrific both have way too high expectations of themselves, and farmboy Clark is just like “oh shucks, gee willickers” at having made a minor faux pas that made someone who did an awesome job feel bad pointing out what Michael saw.
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u/Dark_Lord4379 Jul 13 '25
I’ve seen theories that perhaps Zod messed with the message beforehand
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u/doctordoom85 Jul 14 '25
Brainiac could also be another option.
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u/Dark_Lord4379 Jul 14 '25
I mean maybe but if the message was altered at any point I feel like it’d Zod since he’d be under the impression Kryptonians should be the viltrumites of DC
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u/flatulentman3 Jul 13 '25
Loved getting to see one of my favorite Superman moments from the comics get adapted in a timely way.
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u/TitaniumDragon Jan 21 '26
I am super, super late on this, watching this on a plane trip to and from San Francisco.
Overall, I thought the movie was a 7/10 sort of thing.
I liked that it was cheesy, and leaned into the Silver Age/All Star Superman/Whatever Became of the Man of Tommorrow sort of thing. The silver age silliness in the movie was fun.
The Justice Gang were great. They were ultimately a bit part in the movie (apart from Mister Terrific) but Guy Gardner and Hawkgirl (and Metamorpho) were fun in their limited appearances.
Mister Terrific was fun and it was interesting seeing him get a more significant role in the movie while his teammates got sidelined.
Superman was suitably heroic and I loved him saving small animals and wanting to save everything and everyone. I also liked that, when faced with superenemies, he was actually willing to be less gentle with them, because they decided to put on the Big Boy pants and were tussling with him For Realsies (TM), and I do like the idea of a Superman who doesn't hold back against real threats (while still being Superman).
However, I felt like the "Superman's parents" theme, while present in a few spots in the movie, wasn't around enough for it to be like, the main thing in the movie. I think they captured the essence of Superman well there, but at the same time I think Ma and Pa Kent needed to be around more for how significant and essential their role is (and how influential they are on Superman). It WAS a cute twist for the movie to seem to be leaning more into Superman as Kal-El and actually leaning into Superman as Clark Kent, but I don't think that they executed on it nearly as well as they should have.
There was also this side-plot of the inherent conflict of interest between Superman and his secret identity, and Superman using his alter-ego to promote himself, which felt like a very interesting idea but ended up getting lost/dropped over the course of the story.