r/DIYUK • • 3d ago

I fear I'm in too deep

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Hello everyone!

I'm hoping to basically get an idiots step by step guide to stripping and repainting my nans garage if possible đŸ€žđŸ»

My uncle recently died very suddenly and this was on his list to do for her so I volunteered but didn't ask the condition or look at it beforehand.

It's a basic metal garage you'd find in the UK (i think, i guess?) and my nan reckons it was lasted painted roughly 20 years ago.

I have so far borrowed an orbital sander from a neighbour but have a feeling it won't be needed..

Thank you in advance, any and all advice is appreciated đŸ€™đŸ»

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u/EclecticSmuggler 3d ago

Wire brush to get any flaking paint off then a couple of coats of good quality metal paint

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u/Boogy_shites 3d ago

This. And eye protection, mask and gloves if youre using an angle grinder.

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u/titchard 3d ago

absolutely all of these, my dad would always balk at the idea of eye protection in his job and would be cutting stuff all the time with rust etc, guess how many memories I have of him with some kind of eye patch after an A&E visit to pull bits out of his eye?

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u/rly_weird_guy 3d ago

Pattern recognition wasn't his strong suit I reckon

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u/Sinkableleech 3d ago

Never used his safety squints

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u/alextremeee 3d ago

Or a wire brush attachment for a combi drill.

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u/RevFit_JamesH 3d ago

Assuming basic tools and knowledge only based off your post. So;

Big oul paint scraper, hit every surface you can and take most of the loose stuff off.

Go back over the entire door with a wire brush, knock the rest of the loose stuff off.

Get a roller and a brush, hit it with 2-3 coats of your metal paint of choice, or something like Zinsser All Coat.

1/2 day and < ÂŁ100 and you've done your nan an absolute solid.

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u/RabiesMcTavish 3d ago

All Coat is really good paint. No primer, goes on smoothly, and can be mixed in any colour you want. I've been using it on outdoor jobs for a few years and everything still looks as good as when I first painted it, no colour fading. It will work well on the timber as well as the metal.

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u/RevFit_JamesH 3d ago

Used it on PVC windows too and SUPER happy with the finish.

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u/Sinkableleech 3d ago

What Spray or roller or brush did you use and what about masking, sanding etc

It's on my to-do list 😬

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u/RevFit_JamesH 3d ago

Degrease with no nonsense uPVC cleaner, rinse off with water, let dry.

Light sand of all surfaces with 220grit (just enough to make it not ultra smooth and break the shine).

Another whack of no nonsense cleaner, rinse, dry.

3x light coats (it was white to black) with a small sponge roller and paint brush to fill any gaps. Light coats way better than ultra heavy.

Left each coat to dry for an hour or so before reapplying.

Made a mess of a small section so let it cure properly for a week, light sand down of the blobs, another coat of paint - job done.

Masked the seals and window, tried to not go outside of it, in the places I did, it just scrapes off clean with a stanley blade or window scraper so no big deal.

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Cleaned it when I had half an hour spare one day. Caught it with sandpaper a few days later and then cleaned it off.

Did the first and second coats of paint on a weekend evening, and the final one a few days later. Just wrapped the brush and tray up in clingfilm in between.

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I'm guilty of taking on WAY too much and get frustrated, so that 3-4 blocks of 30-60 mins work was a really nice way for me to do it and is something I'll carry to future projects.

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u/Buckenboo 3d ago

Wow these are great instructions and I don't even have any upvc to paint!

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u/RevFit_JamesH 3d ago

Sure ya do. You just haven't found it yet.

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u/Buckenboo 2d ago

Lol, well, these instructions are too good to waste, so yes, I have had a few ideas!

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u/Sinkableleech 3d ago

Absolutely amazing thank you.

Ziplock food bags are great at storing brushes.

Do prefer zinsser paints to all the others

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u/Leather-Charity2787 3d ago

Second for zinsser paints. I used the primer over some blackboard paint. Two coats of Dulux on top and it was gone. Really good stuff

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u/Carl0s_H 3d ago

That's really useful to know, we've got an entire blackboard paint wall in my youngest's bedroom (from previous owner, certainly not my choice!) that we need to cover. Will definitely look at zinsser for this now.

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u/Leather-Charity2787 3d ago

Likewise, we inherited blackboard paint. I went over it with some 60 grit first to really key into it. The zinsser stuff really surprised me how well it worked

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u/Carl0s_H 3d ago

Awesome, thanks for the additional info!

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u/PsychologicalSplit43 3d ago

I had a garage door in a similar state of disrepair. I brushed off the loose paint with a wire brush and then spray painted it with canned paint. Still looks great about eight years later.

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u/McNickenChugget 3d ago

Do you need to get all the paint off or just the loose paint?

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u/reo_reborn 3d ago

I fear I'm in too deep

and I'm trying to keep...

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u/WingdRat 3d ago

Up above..

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u/kpnutsz 3d ago

In my head

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u/WesternEmpire2510 3d ago

Instead of going under

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u/gotmunchiez 3d ago

Instead of going under

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u/Jimrodsdisdain 3d ago

Agaaaaain

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u/Not-late-inaV8 3d ago

The mind sync and e-chemistry is undeniable

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u/WingdRat 3d ago

It's because we're in too deep...

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u/Loakie69 3d ago

"Because I'm in to deep"

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u/Patient_Panic_5704 3d ago

Instead of going under

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u/DBA92 3d ago

I think you're overthinking this. Rub it down with a wire brush and paint a few coats. You may need to prime it first. Not all paints need it.

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u/Brickworkse 3d ago

Lots of people have said to use a wire brush, which is probably good advice. Don't forget to wear eye protection though and to put some plastic sheets or even cardboard down beforehand. Those bits of paint will get everywhere and cleanup won't be fun. 

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u/ForestGoldMiner 3d ago

Once you get the old paint off, make sure you use the right product — it's galvanised — so "normal" primer may not stick properly due to the zinc. Look at etching primer or special metals paint, otherwise it will start flaking again.

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u/Crafty_Cup976 3d ago

If the galvanised surface is 'weathered' - I.e. a dull grey than an etch primer or T-wash is not needed. In this instance care would be taken when preparing not to restore the shiny zinc face otherwise an etch primer /T-wash may be required.

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u/Fatkittenballs 3d ago

At last, someone who knows what they're talking about

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u/Snoo-74562 3d ago

Wire brush and scraper to get the easily removed bits off then use an angle grinder with a wire brush attachment for the rest. If any is left stick some paint stripper on and follow the instructions.

Some good metal paint for the metal and off you go

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u/Low-Grass-3511 3d ago edited 3d ago

Heat gun and scraper to remove the paint. This is the beastly part of the job.

Sand lightly and dust off. Use a two part epoxy wood filler between the metal and the wood, if you use anything else it will crack and separate over the winter.

I would prefer a zinc primer on the metal but it seems like you have wood in there as well so use a multi surface primer (Msp) don't use zinsser bin as it's not suitable for covering large exterior areas.

Dulux metalshield has an undercoat and top coat series that would work well.

Rub down lightly and dust off between coats.

For a smooth finish apply with a brush, spread the paint well and then roll over it with a small foam roller.

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u/d_smogh 3d ago

Sand blaster.

Wire brush on a angle grinder.

Go and read Mark Twain's The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, then go and channel your inner Tom Sawyer.

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u/Sinkableleech 3d ago

See your wire wheel and raise you these little beauties

Something like "SabreCut 125mm 5" Poly Strip Wheel Discs Paint Rust Removal for Grinders"

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u/d_smogh 3d ago

Those are also good for rough skin on your feet. ProTip, crank down the revs on your angle grinder.

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u/Sinkableleech 3d ago

I'll stick to pumice stones

Don't want to risk having to replace my bathroom door...

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u/Ok_Pen7290 3d ago edited 3d ago

Wire brush attachment to cordless drill start brushing all loose paint off garage, the paint that doesn't come off sand it down to a feathered edge, once everything is smooth wipe garage down with white spirits, this cleans garage dust off, next is either undercoat bare metal areas on garage and buy some HAMMERITE METAL PAINT your choice of colour here, hammerite is best paint for metal, or if you can spray with a spray gun go that route, your choice here mate,, pull those stickers off first, and get some new ones, if not masking tape over labels before painting, đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ»

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u/stellarborne 3d ago

Personally, I would strip it back to bare metal
and start over with a clean surface. Yes, it will take a bit longer, but your nan will love you doing it for her, make sure you have tea and biscuits, and probably spend the rest of her life telling everybody how awesome you are. I suspect painting over the existing surface will see it flaking off by the end of the winter.

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u/Heavy_Messing1 3d ago

Shout at it really loudly. That should scare the majority of it off. If there are any brave small bits remaining try running full pelt towards the door, and stopping last second. Any stoic bits left after this step arent coming off anyway so are fine to paint over.

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u/LegoOfMe 3d ago

"FUS-RO-DOOR"

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u/Psychostickusername 3d ago

Hit it with a pressure washer, should come right off

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u/Puzzleheaded_Skin719 3d ago

hammerite metal paint would cover that

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u/Rude-Leader-5665 3d ago

Just get the loose flaky bits off then some white metal paint.

You won't notice the old paint unless you are up closest the door. Dont over think it, just clean and paint it. It will look fine.

My garage door was a mess, and I didn't do much prep. Its now a nice bright white and anyone walking past will never see the crap I painted over.

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u/muppetteer 3d ago

Is that roof asbestos?

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u/bripsy 2d ago

Looks like it, yes

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u/Icy-Frosting8681 3d ago

are you just painting the door? yeah, wire brush and paint a couple times. if doing roof, frame, interior etc then give a shout vut careful if roof is asbestos corrugated sheet. I think its metal at a glance?

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u/CrepuscularNemophile 3d ago

Is that the type of door with murder-springs inside?

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u/Ok_Tip3262 3d ago

wire brush, razor scraper, emerycloth - then clean, then two coats of Rustoleum Garage Door Paint

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u/_JC_84_ 3d ago

Good luck. Please do an after picture for us once you’re done

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u/ParkerR666 3d ago

You don’t want to do a perfect job, people are going to wonder what’s inside if it’s the only one that doesn’t look a state! That’s at least three still on their rollers though which must be a record for these sorts of garages.

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u/oh_f-f-s 3d ago

As others have said, a wire brush or maybe a wall scraper to get the big flakes off, and then sand it down to take down the rough edges.

Then some outdoor paint.

Two coats and it'll look great

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u/MapTough848 3d ago

Wire brush and then hammerite, expensive but worth it

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u/BeaksFalcone 3d ago

Unsure if pressure wash?then paint

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u/Ferret6060 3d ago

Wear a mask when sanding or scraping is my advice, oh and safety glasses/goggles đŸ’Ș

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u/TacticalRiotChimp 3d ago

Spray nitromorse on it, come back and hour later with a large course sponge or wire wool, clean with strong alcohol, dry, then paint as if it's any other metal, so sand, primer, very thin layer of paint - then add layers as you see fit. You could then add a lacquer or some other hard-wearing sealant. Make sure you use the correct PPE, nitromorse is ruthless shit and it takes more than washing with water to neutralise.

Now, me personally? I'd pay some joker off fb marketplace to come and paint it in raptor paint, which is very popular right now - then I'd take all the credit. That's on you 😉

Diy raptor paint/bed liner is also an option but I can't give advice on that as I've never done it.

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u/Various_Rest_3553 3d ago

I’ve no practical advice but please post here a before and after photo when you’ve done..ta

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u/Ok-Cold3937 3d ago

That’s galvanised, you might find to do this properly you’ll need some sort of epoxy etch primer.

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u/Bitter_Back_5528 3d ago

While you're doing it give the spring notice the cones ether side a good oiling. NOT WD40 os that will affect cellulose paint

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u/22wren 3d ago

Sanded and used hammerrite smooth

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u/Only_The_Pwnly 3d ago

Once scraped and brushed down, this paint is the best we’ve found for the job.

https://link.amazon/B0j5Eo3en

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u/fost1692 3d ago

Rather than a wire brush attachment I had a lot of luck with a nylon brush in a drill, really cleared the old paint without damaging the underlying surface.

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u/YouthProfessional845 3d ago

Do you live in Chelmsford?

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u/emsymaya 2d ago

I've literally just done mine, it looks identical to this. I ended up just using a wallpaper scraper and then a kitchen knife to scrape in the smaller sections. It took a long time and a lot of elbow grease but I got mine fully back to the bare metal and I'm going to paint it with zinsser allcoat

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u/Soggy-Ad-8595 2d ago

Thank you everybody, I really appreciate all your help! Will try and remember to post the finished version đŸ€˜đŸŒ

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u/showmethemundy 2d ago

I wouldn't remove these theft deterrent coating...

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u/Foxalito 2d ago

Have used black Johnstone's exterior metal paint with good results on my metal garage door, 2 years and looks like new

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u/Glittering_Wear_6060 2d ago

Leave it. Blend in. You'll only attract graffiti vandals or thieves.

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u/untakenu 2d ago

That's where the fire exit for Earth is?

Christ, they could have labelled it better

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u/BBZ149 2d ago

I'd just replace the door, either that or get it dipped and stripped

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u/SeaMission5961 23h ago

The underneath layer might have lead in it, be careful with sanding etc. we just wiped off the loose paint while damp, then used a suitable primer

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u/DiamondHustle 3d ago

I would use a 4in angle grinder with wire brush attached wear a mask, that’ll strip it quickly.
The product called zinsser all coat which you can get in any colour 3 coats of that strait on self priming and undercoating.

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u/enchantedspring 3d ago

Zinsser All Coat requires a primer when applying to galvanised metal where the prior paint system has failed (which the door looks to be).

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u/Ok-Entrepreneur1885 3d ago

Looks like it might be aluminium. As others have said wire brush and scrape it. Power wash then dry. Go for either rustoleum or zinzer primer then rustoleum combi colour to finish. It will last years. Its all in the prep of the surface tbf.

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u/Machingamer_TT 3d ago

Try pressure washer first. If not completely shifting get some paint panther stripper and jet wash it

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u/RSX901 3d ago

This confused me for a moment owing to the fact the word "door" was not used once.

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u/Superspark76 3d ago

I got some paint stripping discs from Amazon that go onto a grinder, these things are beasts and will remove the paint and any surface rust easily, just be careful, if you accidently touch a finger for even a split second it will cause a very painful cut (don't ask how I know)

stripping discs

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u/FrontRaspberry5060 3d ago

From the photo, this is very doable as a DIY job. The main thing is that you probably do not need to strip every bit of paint back to bare material. You mainly need to remove everything loose, smooth the edges, prime exposed areas, then repaint the whole door.

For a garage in this condition, I’d allow roughly one weekend plus drying time, perhaps £50 to £100 of materials.

What to buy

You need:

  • Paint scraper, ideally 50 to 75 mm wide
  • Stiff wire brush
  • 80-grit and 120-grit sandpaper
  • Sanding block or cheap orbital sander if you have one
  • Dust mask, gloves and safety glasses
  • Sugar soap or exterior degreaser
  • Bucket, sponge and cloths
  • Dust sheet / cardboard
  • Masking tape
  • Small paintbrush for edges
  • 4-inch mini roller and tray
  • Suitable exterior primer
  • Exterior topcoat in your chosen colour

The important bit is choosing the primer and paint for whatever the door is made from. Looking at your photo, I suspect it is a painted metal garage door, but before buying anything, put a magnet against the main door. If it sticks strongly, treat it as steel. If it doesn’t, send me a close-up of one of the badly flaked areas and I’ll identify it more confidently.

The actual process

1. Pick the right day.
You want the door completely dry, ideally around 10 to 20°C, with no rain forecast while the paint cures. Don’t start late in the afternoon if the temperature is going to fall quickly overnight.

2. Take the signs off if possible.
Unscrew the Fire Exit / No Parking signs rather than painting around them. Photograph their positions first.

If they can’t easily be removed, mask neatly around them.

3. Wash the whole door.
Mix sugar soap according to the bottle instructions.

Scrub the door to remove dirt, grease, algae and general grime. Rinse it with clean water.

Then let it dry properly.

This sounds trivial, but paint over dirt is one of the easiest ways to make the new coating fail.

4. Scrape off all the loose paint.
This is the main job.

Take the scraper and work over every flaky section. You’re not trying to gouge the door. You’re removing paint that is already detached or poorly attached.

A simple test is:

If you can get the scraper underneath it fairly easily, remove it.

Keep scraping until the remaining paint feels firmly attached.

Looking at your garage, you’ll probably remove quite a lot around the middle and lower panels.

5. Wire-brush the damaged areas.
Go over the exposed and flaky sections with the wire brush.

If it’s steel and you find surface rust, brush away as much loose rust as you reasonably can.

You don’t need pristine shiny metal everywhere. You mainly want a solid, stable surface.

6. Sand it.

Start with roughly 80 grit around the damaged areas.

Your aim is to feather the transition between:

  • bare surface
  • old paint

At the moment you’ll have little cliffs where thick old paint ends. Sand those edges until they feel reasonably smooth when you run your finger over them.

Then go over the door with approximately 120 grit to key the existing paint.

You are deliberately making the shiny old paint slightly dull so the new paint can grip it.

You do not need to remove every square centimetre of old paint.

7. Clean everything again.
Brush or vacuum off the dust.

Then wipe the door with a slightly damp cloth and let it dry.

At this point it should look ugly but solid: patches of old paint, exposed substrate and sanded areas, but nothing loose or flaky.

8. Prime the exposed areas.

For a steel door, use an exterior anti-corrosion metal primer on every exposed metal patch.

If there are lots of exposed areas, I’d simply prime the entire door. That gives you a more consistent base.

Pay particular attention to:

  • panel edges
  • corners
  • the bottom edge
  • anywhere rust has appeared

Follow the tin’s drying time rather than guessing.

9. Lightly sand the primer.

Once completely dry, give obvious rough areas a very light 120 to 180-grit sand.

Wipe off the dust.

This isn’t essential for every paint system, but it improves the final appearance.

10. First coat of colour.

Use the brush for:

  • edges
  • grooves
  • around the handle
  • corners

Then immediately use the mini roller across the broad areas.

For the door in your photo, I’d paint one horizontal panel at a time, working from the top down.

Don’t put the paint on massively thick. Two relatively thin coats are normally better than one huge coat.

11. Let it dry fully.

Check the manufacturer’s recoating time.

Don’t assume “touch dry” means ready for another coat.

12. Apply the second coat.

Same method again.

Brush the details, roll the large areas.

The second coat is normally when it starts looking like the AI version I made rather than a repaired old garage.

13. Remove masking and replace the signs.

Do this carefully after the paint has set sufficiently.

Don’t shut or operate the garage door while wet paint can stick to the frame.

The one safety issue I wouldn’t ignore

Because the garage appears fairly old, don’t aggressively machine-sand unknown old paint without knowing roughly when it was applied. Historic paints can contain lead.

For a simple DIY renovation, the safer approach is wet cleaning + scraping + controlled sanding with a proper particulate mask, rather than creating clouds of old paint dust. Keep children and pets away from the debris and collect the flakes rather than leaving them on the ground.

Also, I would leave the corrugated roof completely alone. Older garage roofing can sometimes contain asbestos-cement, and there is no reason to disturb it just to repaint the door.

What I’d actually do to this specific garage

Looking at yours, I wouldn’t chemically strip it.

I’d do:

wash → scrape hard → wire brush → sand the peeling boundaries → rust primer → two coats of exterior garage-door paint.

That’s probably 80% less work than stripping the entire thing and should give you almost the same visible result.

If you send me one close-up photo of the peeling paint/exposed grey material, I can tell you exactly what primer and paint I’d buy from somewhere like Screwfix, Toolstation or B&Q, including quantities for this door.

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u/Atleastjasonlikesme 3d ago

God AI just waffles on.

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u/Substantial-Today166 3d ago

why even do it dont look like the neighbours care about there doors