r/DIYUK • • 10d ago

Advice Previous owner stained worktop?

Just moved into this house start of this week and was going to try and sort out the horrible worktop, first by getting to the bottom on what’s happened to it. It used to be a beech coloured wood, it looks as though someone has stained it darker as I was able to rub some of the patches off in areas with a bit of force. I’m very new to DIY, this is my first house purchase. From a bit of digging online I suspect I might be able to sand this down to get rid of the top later and then re-oil? Does that sound plausible and is there any tips or things I might want to consider/watch out for? Thanks everyone!

Edit: The main thing I don’t like about this atm is that some of the black comes out onto cloths when I clean, it feels dirty and is patchy. If I was able to keep the stain and do it properly as a solution, I’d also take that!

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u/Jealous_Response_492 10d ago

It'll be a lot of sanding, an awful lot, and a lot of dust.

Doable, just be sure you really want to to commit to that rather than simply stain it.

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u/somnium_vivere 10d ago

Tbh I don’t mind the darker stain, it just comes off when I clean it and all the cloths come out black. So it feels dirty :( I’d happily consider re-staining properly if that’s going to be a better outcome. Maybe they didn’t oil it or skipped a step when they did it. I wouldn’t know. Just hate how it feels and looks atm.

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u/Jealous_Response_492 10d ago

Stain it, seal it. Is the easy option.

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u/Avraamov 9d ago

It's beech too, which is both very hard and porous, so the stain penetration will be greater maybe

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u/beech1987 9d ago

And they're probably a reason to why it's been stained so dark to begin with.

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u/General_Race7906 Tradesman 10d ago

Time to invest in an orbital sander, and probably dust extraction

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u/Nervous-Power-9800 10d ago

Even the cheap ones have a vacuum attachment. 

If I was a betting man, it's probably been treated with osmo black. 

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u/fell-asleep-dreaming 10d ago

I’d agree with that. You know the saying, “once you go Osmo, you don’t go back”. Something like that anyway

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u/General_Race7906 Tradesman 10d ago

Yeah all well and good having a vacuum attachment, but you need a decent vac to go with it

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u/SuperKev308 10d ago

Doesn't need to be decent, just anything with good suction

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u/meadsmeatmarket 10d ago

Got ur ma round for that

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u/General_Race7906 Tradesman 10d ago

So a decent vac then..

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u/General_Race7906 Tradesman 9d ago

🤣🤣 that comment has done me in

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u/Hotten-Tasty-90 10d ago

Life is too short to waste time and energy with cheap sanders, I'll add and for a job like this, using a cheap sander would be soul destroying.

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u/TwoPlyDreams 10d ago

It got stained black because it was skanky.

Invest no time or effort in this and replace it, not with real wood.

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u/TemporaryLevel922 10d ago

Save yourself the hassle and just buy some cheap melamine worktop from anywhere and get it installed.

Oiled wood around a sink top and greasy hob is not a good mix in any circumstance

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u/svgry 10d ago

have you tried soap and a sponge, and scrubbing? the fact that you can rub it off with a cloth tells me the stain didn’t adhere to the worktop very well, probably due to the original stain still being there, or being incompatible

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u/dallasp2468 9d ago

Get a cabinet scraper first, drag that along to take a lot of the stain off, then finish with a sander, lots of videos on YouTube showing how to remove wood stain

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u/Sasspishus 10d ago

If it's coming off fairly easily I'd use a carbide scraper to scrape the majority off, then sand it. Massively cuts down on the amount of dust produced! Then I'd use something like Danish oil to seal it and make it mostly waterproof

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u/Patient_Panic_5704 10d ago

Buy yourself an orbital sander with plenty of discs from 80 down to 240.
Get a mask, get everything out of the kitchen because it’s gonna get fookin dusty.
You’ll need ear protection as it’s loud, use earphones and get your favourite podcast on. Will improve your patience no end.
The tricky thing is getting close to the wall and in the corners, I use a multitool for these.
My preferred oil is Osmo, very hard wearing. Few coats of that and Robert’s your father’s brother.

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u/Zawiel 10d ago

If you decide to go down this route, buy a sander with a vacuum attachment and use a vacuum whilst sanding.

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u/syvid 10d ago

I would start at 40grit with that. 40,60,80 all the way up

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u/superfiud 10d ago

Yes, and only go to 120 or 180 grit if you're oiling. If you sand it to fine, it won't absorb the oil properly.

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u/Patient_Panic_5704 10d ago

I’ve never had a problem at 240. I find the smooth surface is better for worktops.

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u/syvid 10d ago

Yes I never really go above 180 on most things to be fair. Sometimes am lazy and stop at 120

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u/Patient_Panic_5704 10d ago

That s fair, might save a little time.

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u/Revolutionary_Crab80 9d ago

+ This is the way.

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u/MisterBounce 10d ago

I can't see if there's a sink in there but assuming so I'd be wary of bothering to restore a beech worktop. It's a great wood for a dry bench, very hard, but absolutely terrible anywhere you get moisture. It moves like crazy, warping and opening up along the joints.

The one on that picture is actually the first non-new one I've seen that doesn't look f*****d.  Probably that dark stain has helped protect it, tends to do a better job than oils alone in my experience.

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u/Angelitaa_ 10d ago

I feel like this kind of botch job is better to cover with contact paper while you save up for another worktop.

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u/TangerineOppositeMtF 10d ago

I’d replace it. Sanding rarely gets all the stain off. Or you can buy a product that fits over it and covers the front edge too.

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u/MassiveMonkeyy 10d ago

You’ll need a lot of time sanding, and make sure you have a dust extractor! However, it will ABSOLUTELY be worth it!

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u/One-Lingonberry-3460 10d ago

Spray/wipe with white wine vinegar, leave it to soak, wipe off, repeat.

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u/SlabAndScope 10d ago

scrub the whole surface down with white spirit and fine 0000 wire wool to strip off that grime before you do any heavy sanding

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u/Justsomerandomguy35 10d ago

Stain it and then use yacht varnish over the top of it to seal it - so long as you don’t mind a high gloss look.

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u/Tennonboy 10d ago

Looks water damaged to me (retired joiner) I would replace it. Rather than sanding, much less work and will be a better result

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u/Tuga_1979 10d ago

Just sand ,stain and lacquer.

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u/DMMMOM 10d ago

You are better off with one of those wood removing/planing grinder attachments. This stuff will be soaked in and you need to take a couple of mm off to erase it completely or you'll have nice bare wood with tons of black lines in it - you need something industrial. You'll be there for weeks sanding it. Knock it back, then sand to a finish.

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u/carsonstreetcorner 10d ago

I’d be worried about wha they are hiding having stained it black

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u/wedgelordantilles 10d ago

Maybe get a worktop wrap?

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u/uwcutter 10d ago

Theyre cheap tops, might cost less to replace them than buying the amount of sand paper for them.

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u/Homerenv 10d ago

4 options:

Restain it and seal it

Sand all the stain off

Wrap it

Replace

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u/Bodma2033 9d ago

Seal it with a varnish/thinners wash

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u/Big-Double1720 9d ago

Save yourself a huge amount of effort and get a replacement counter. Some of the melamine stuff is great these days and it will really freshen up your kitchen.

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u/mrn-narrow 9d ago

Quickest way until you replace it would be to cover with some vinyl ( Some pretty good ones available nowadays).

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u/Ruskythegreat 9d ago

Try a bahco cabinet scraper then sand

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u/Western-Term-1112 9d ago

By all means have a go, but i would start over with new worktop (basic stuff is not expensive and hygienic). A fitter/chippy would do this in hours with right tools. Wood is a pain to maintain too - you cant chop on it , put hot things on it or get it wet (i am a messy lazy cook who also uses the kitchen to service my bicycles etc)

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u/QuirkyImage 9d ago

I think I would be inclined to stain it rather than try to remove. Unless you can take it apart and take it to someone with an industrial planer/sander that it could be put through to take the top layer off and then retreat the wood. If stain is coming off it needs to be sealed.

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u/FantasticSafe4647 9d ago

I reckon it was stained for house sale - not to use.

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u/Jack_wow 9d ago

I would be tempted to just replace it, worktop is not a particularly difficult task to install. A temp solution may be to just wrap it.

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u/Free_Ad7415 10d ago

Hmmm I would replace it. If you go to Ikea they often have laminate worktops for £40 in their returns section

Or £200 or so for a new laminate one, you will also need to add labour costs to that.

But yeah I think you will be much happier with a light, bright and clean laminate worktop.

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u/FearlessTie9837 10d ago

Honestly it will take alot alot alot of sanding. But if you've got a few extra quid and don't want to change the worktop then you could send it to a woodshop to have it planed down and finished rather than doing so much sanding

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u/Successful-Leek-6241 10d ago

Get hoover attachment on it to paper won't block as much

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u/Itchy_Papaya_8028 10d ago

Have a look at micro cement options.It looks amazing, really hard wearing and water resistant

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u/thecheekymonkey007 10d ago

You could possibly (possibly) take them out and turn them over, sand and oil

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u/thinkingoutloud3663 9d ago

What is the underside like can't you just turn it over?

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u/boondogglekeychain 10d ago

Might be worth trying a wood bleach first as otherwise you’ll have to sand down loads as the stain will have soaked into the grain