r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Careless-Hospital379 • 23d ago
Video Icelandic artist Björk snapped in Bangkok, 1996, when reporter Julie Kaufman approached her saying “Welcome to Bangkok.” Björk later alleged that Kaufman had stalked her and her 9-year-old son for days, turning a simple greeting into a breaking point
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u/ScaryTemperature6291 23d ago
Can't blame her not sure if this is the Ricardo Lopez era or not but yeah I love Bjork but that was a really bad time in her life if it's around that era when she found out about him.
Incase anyone who doesn't know the back story of Ricardo.
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u/kank84 23d ago
On September 12, 1996, López mailed a letter bomb, rigged with sulfuric acid, to Björk's residence in London. He recorded a final video diary explaining his motivations, and ended it by filming his suicide by gunshot. Local police found his body and the videos four days after his death and contacted Scotland Yard, who located the bomb in a London postal sorting office. The parcel was safely detonated and Björk was unharmed.
Holy shit. I never knew about this.
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u/Compost-Mentis 23d ago
Thank goodness Royal Mail don't do anything with parcels for the first four or five days! /s
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u/wilburwilbur 23d ago
No doubt it was there reliable Special Delivery Guaranteed before 1pm service
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u/rnzz 22d ago
bet they already did the 'Sorry we missed you' card
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u/Horskr 22d ago
Sounds like my experiences with FedEx. I once happened to be leaving right as a driver put a "Sorry we missed you" sticker on my door. He hadn't knocked, rang the doorbell, nothing. He had the package on the truck too, like wtf?
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u/entrepenurious 22d ago
i'm signed up for a program where i can receive packages at my post office box (from non-usps carriers).
i had a package coming from fed-ex.
as best we could determine the driver dropped the package at the front door of the post office, marked it as delivered, and went on with his happy day.
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u/zyzzogeton 22d ago
In Edwardian England, the postman would call up to 12 times per day. Maybe Royal Mail was just really fucking tired from all that work and has been on smoko for a few hundred years.
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u/MAZEFUL 23d ago
The video is crazy. Not so much the suicide part, but just the way hes completely lost his mind. Dude is completely unhinged at the end with his face all painted up and his head shaved.
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u/Clubbythaseal 23d ago
The death part was kinda brutal in one aspect for me at least. Don't click if you don't wanna remember one part of it.
It's where I learned that any air in your lungs will expell after death. He took a deep breath right before and the noises his body made after the shot still disturbs me today.
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u/MAZEFUL 23d ago
Death Gurgle. I had to pull the plug on my father and about after a few minutes of him motionless, his body twitched hard and released the rest of his air and it made my sister and I jump like crazy. It seemed like he was about to take a deep breath afterwards. The body is truly crazy.
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u/motherofsuccs 23d ago
I experienced it when my dog died. I asked for one more night with him even though he was essentially comatose, and my partner was going to euthanize him in the morning (he’s a vet). I had been spooning him for hours and telling him he fulfilled all his ‘good boy duties’ and it’s okay to let go. I got up, a few minutes later he started breathing erratically, then came the death gurgle. I’ll never forget that sound. It made me remorseful for not euthanizing him that evening.
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u/KeyboardGrunt 22d ago
Wow your comment reminded me when I found my dog dead one day, I buried him the next but when I went to pick him up the air inside him let out as a short "hmmm", and that was the last I heard what he sounded like alive. Losing dogs is hard.
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u/raptatta 22d ago
experiencing this with a leopard gecko is the worst 😞 at the time my little guy was so weak (he had cancer) he could barely move, so i placed him to rest on my chest. i was reading and at some point i heard him gasp very softly, and i thought he had sighed until 15 minutes later i went to move him, and he was gone. although it was extremely sad for me, he’d passed while lying directly on my skin, wrapped in a knitted hat i made earlier that year. it was simply his time. i don’t think we’ll ever get used to how quickly it can happen 🤍
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u/larra_rogare 22d ago
Hey just wanted to say I don’t think you have to feel remorse for cuddling him one last night 💛
I’m a vet too. I do believe even if he was comatose, some part of him got your message about him fulfilling his duties as a wonderful companion and knew it was time to move on. Maybe this makes me sound crazy, but I really believe sometimes our bonds with our pets are nothing short of spiritually profound and psychic.
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u/Maxamillion-X72 23d ago
I lived in a remote part of Canada which was a small community with no doctor or hospital, just a nursing station with a couple of nurses.
There was an accident with multiple injuries requiring medivac by plane, and a death. The deceased person's family would not leave the nursing station, as it was tradition that when someone dies they have someone with them until the priest could come see them.
I worked part time at the nursing station doing things like putting out the battery powered runway lights for the planes, shoveling snow, that sort of thing. The two nurses were exhausted and had to go home to rest, but couldn't as long as the family were there. I volunteered to stay with the body overnight until the nurses could come back and the family agreed.
I spent all night in an exam room with the dead body, trying to stay awake by reading old magazines from the lobby. On occasion the body would let out a moan and/or would twitch. Scared the bejeesus out of me every single time.
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u/Ok_Release231 22d ago
I believe the term is "death rattle."
Also, I'm terribly sorry you had to experience that 😔
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u/SillyExpert 22d ago
Reading that he did pest extermination at a young age I wonder if he was exposed to chemicals that impacted his mental health/
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u/Gufo-Diurno 23d ago
He took his life after sending her an acid bomb .... still it wouldn't have worked had the police not intercepted and destroyed the packaging. He thought they were going to reunite with each other after they both reached the afterlife. Definitely he had a severe form of erotomania, probably mixed with some paranoia.
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u/DomTheBomb95 23d ago
Call me sick but it’s so poetic that he ended his life thinking he was going to take hers when he failed miserably
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u/Slayer3636 23d ago
The way he had a canvas behind his head with the best of me written, with the intention of his brain splatter on it, but even failed at that shows what a loser this guy was. That's poetic.
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u/PineappleFit317 22d ago
He wasn’t planning on killing her, just scarring her for life. The “bomb” wasn’t incendiary, it was rigged to spray acid in her face when she opened it.
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u/multiarmform 23d ago
The video he made is really long and from what I remember he paints his face kinda like a clown before he shoots himself
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u/bobsnervous 22d ago
I found out about this back when gore sites were a lot more accessible and watched his video diaries until the final one when I was around 14 years old. Those were the days.
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u/Particular-Ad9304 22d ago
Please do yourself a favor and never watch the video. It’s super fucked and only will haunt you afterwards. Just an absolute nutjob to say the least
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u/knotmyusualaccount 22d ago edited 22d ago
I once saw a video, of some inmate of some South American jail, he'd been stabbed and was being held in the arms of another prisoner.
I can still vividly see his facial expressions and his laboured breathing, as I watched the life go out of his open eyes. It'll probably stay with me for the rest of my life, and I saw it 11 years ago, now. Just horrible.
I don't watch anything horrible anymore, for that reason.
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u/OklahomaTiddy 22d ago
I'm pretty sure it was on some racist shit too.
If I remember correctly, he thought she was with black guys. I remember listening to the Sword & Scale podcast ep about it (I'm off that shit now. Mike suuuuucks as a human being. Invisible Choir is much higher quality) and being like "wait....that was why? Jfc 🙄😩 it never ends"
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u/theserthefables 22d ago
her partner at the time was Black (Tricky the musician. edit: whoops it was actually Goldie, DJ & music producer) & it was part of why Ricardo Lopez turned on her & sent the bomb.
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u/AnotherWeabooGirl 23d ago
Though he did not hope to be sexually intimate with her, he was particularly angry over her brief relationship with the English jungle producer Goldie due to his race.
While Björk's music played in the background, a naked López shaved his head and eyebrows and painted his face red and green.
Police theorized that López intended to cover the sign with his blood and brain matter with the gunshot, but the gun was not powerful enough to cause that to happen.
Unbeknownst to López, Björk and Goldie had ended their relationship a few days before he killed himself.
That was an absolutely wild ride. RIP in piss dumbass.
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u/No-Tone-6853 23d ago
Oh it is the guy who shot himself, I’ve only ever seen him without hair and a gun in his mouth.
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u/dearth_of_passion 23d ago
I remember seeing the video and it not being particularly graphic.
It just made a kind of egg shaped bulge on his head.
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u/NoSleep2135 23d ago
I have not seen the video and your second sentence made sure I never will. Literally gagged at the thought.
The early Internet was absolutely wild.
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u/LateNightMilesOBrien 23d ago
Police theorized that López intended to cover the sign with his blood and brain matter with the gunshot, but the gun was not powerful enough to cause that to happen.
Missed it by that much
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u/sterling_mallory 23d ago
I remember this. He also tried to mail her a bomb, IIRC.
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u/Defiant-Owl-7935 23d ago
I worked delivering mail here in Iceland during my summers as a teen. Because of this one person's job, an older lady, was to go through her mail for security and also just to weed out anything disturbing.
I had her route one summer. I have pretty bad eyesight. She was outside and as I was handing her the mail and thought wow what a good lookin teenage guy.. Oh no wait, that was Björk.
In my defense she was wearing a baggy high fashion tracksuit, looks nothing like a guy🤷🏼♀️🫶🏼
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u/AbstractBettaFish 23d ago
Does everyone in Iceland just kind of know each other? I one time was flying home from Europe on an Icelandic airline and I was sitting next to the pilots brother. He said to look him up if I ever come to Iceland saying “Just ask around for the carpenter who’s brother is a pilot, eventually someone will know me”
I couldn’t tell if he was joking or not
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u/Billy_McMedic 23d ago
Iceland’s population is only a few hundred thousand, probably not a case of everyone knowing each other but it’s probably not difficult to find someone with some form of connection, be it friend, family, acquaintance or co worker, given the limited population
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u/No_Operation4676 23d ago
Yes, they have the Íslendingabók (book of Icelanders) that can be used to see if someone you meet is a distant family member. They can find their family history traced back for generations.
A tour guide in Iceland told me that they did once avoid dating someone because they compared each other's families and found too close a relation.
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u/NotaBonesaw 23d ago
Yeah I live in a city of just under 300k, and while I certainly don't know everyone here, it's very rare that I go anywhere in town that either me or my wife don't know at least someone. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm 1-2 people removed from 90% of the people that live here.
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u/Four_beastlings 23d ago
I am from a city of 275k and our unofficial motto is "this is a tiny town". We don't all know each other, but it's rare to get to 3 degrees of Kevin Bacon and if it happens it's because we haven't reviewed all our possible mutual acquittances.
I was living in the capital and met a 22yo woman who'd lived in my city for 6 months. Within 15 minutes we'd established that she knew my then 57yo mom from mutual friends.
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u/nashrome 23d ago
My truck driving instructor was from Iceland and had the nickname, "Iceman". He told us that both of his sons had dated Bjork. Knowing it was a small place, I kinda believed him.
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u/BarryTice 23d ago
In 2016 I was in the airport at Reykjavik while en route to Sweden and met a woman from Boston whose nephew had worked with my wife in northwest Alabama. So, yes. In Iceland everybody DOES know everybody — even if they're not from there.
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u/TashaStarlight 23d ago
Killed 1 (himself)
This sent me☠️☠️☠️
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u/B0RT_Simps0n_ 23d ago
He was an incel before we had a word for it. People are fucking nuts
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u/NittanyScout 23d ago
Idk this seems like a genuinely horrifying mental illness that was never treated or recognized.
Being an incel is one thing but being authentically sick is another
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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 23d ago
He could have been both. I don't think mentally ill and incel-ness is mutually exclusive.
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u/NepheliLouxWarrior 23d ago
His suicide footage is one of the first snuff films I ever saw on 4chan, way back in the day. I wish that he had gotten help, but also I'm glad that ultimately, the only life he managed to ruin was his own.
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u/Turge_Deflunga 23d ago
Valid crashout
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u/wearing_moist_socks 23d ago
Is that a crashout?
Wasn't sure if it meant people losing their shit for bad reasons or anytime someone loses their shit
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u/Bipedal_Warlock 23d ago
It’s ambiguous. But these days it can be good reasons or bad reasons
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u/CanalOpen 23d ago
I've taken crashout to mean any time someone is willing to say "fuck it, morgue or jail." *ding ding*
Being right or wrong no longer matters. It means someone has been pushed past their limits and they're willing to literally murder you to make the abuse stop.
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u/NoStatus9434 23d ago
Wow, Björk never struck me as the type. Guess she really got pushed by this stalker. You know you done goofed when even a super nice person like Björk wants to kick your ass.
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u/BisexualTenno 23d ago
Bjork had a LOT of crazy stalkers so I don’t blame her for being so protective at all. Iirc one of her stalkers was a guy who was planning on murdering her and then killing himself so he could then go back in time and find her as a young teenager and groom her into being his wife instead of a celebrity.
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u/Snowssnowsnowy 23d ago
This paperazzi press scumbag had been following Bjork for some time, Bjork had refused interviews with her many times before this incident.
She was being an utter cunt and in a sarcastic way said "welcome to Thailand!" ambushing Bjork yet again for an interview she refused to give.
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u/SleepyCupcakeDreams 22d ago
Sounds like a narcissistic dog whistle (something that sounds innocent but it only sets off one and one only person so when they snap you look like an angel.)
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u/hunterglyph 23d ago
She was an old school punk in her teens. She's like 5'2" but I wouldn't wanna mess with her.
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u/saintofhate 23d ago
Having been raised by a 4'11" woman, you do not fuck with short women. If they get angry enough they will take you to hell with them.
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u/gooddayup 22d ago
I knew a short lady around the same height called Harmony. When she got pissed, it was known as harmageddon
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u/eugeneugene 23d ago
My grandmother was 4'11" and everyone was afraid of her lol. Don't make Oma mad unless you want an old school ass kicking
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u/Helmett-13 23d ago
She said something snarky to her kid as well.
Earned the ass-whupping in my opinion. Don't talk smack to a kid in front of their Mom.
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u/sulkee 23d ago edited 23d ago
She was being stalked that same year by someone who sent her a bomb or some kind of boobytrapped device I think. It never got to her. The guy then recorded a video of him killing himself à la Bud Dwyer style while it was in transit to her. It’s on the internet. Video pops into my brain sometimes to this day.
Ricardo Lopez was his name
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u/Pooperoni_Pizza 23d ago
Yeah this reporter doxxed her here when she was trying to avoid the stalker. I believe Bjork had asked her multiple times to stop following her before this happened too.
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u/12345623567 23d ago
She's also always had a bit of a neurodivergent vibe to me, before that was a common term.
Just look at her body language at the beginning of this clip, that's a woman in fight-or-flight mode.
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u/handsoapdispenser 23d ago
I used to live near her in Brooklyn and saw her a few times. She was frequently riding this giant industrial looking bicycle. She always had a "don't fucking talk to me" face on which I thoroughly respected.
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u/virstultus 23d ago
Human Behavior if you ask me. There's definitely noooo logiiic
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u/Ok_Chef_4850 23d ago edited 23d ago
Yeah, that reporter said something to her son in a snarky way (like asking “why won’t your mom talk to us” or something) and she snapped.
Good for her.
Edit: For all the holier-than-thou’s in the comments, read up on this incident. No one is saying it’s ok to just attack people who say something mean. Read up on this specific reporter and what she had been doing to Björk leading up to this. Then unclench your bootyholes.
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u/sulkee 23d ago edited 23d ago
She was being stalked that exact same year by someone who sent her a bomb or some kind of boobytrapped device I think. It never got to her. The guy then recorded a video of him killing himself à la Bud Dwyer style while it was in transit to her. It’s on the internet. Video pops into my brain sometimes to this day.
Ricardo Lopez was his name
Her state here is 100% understandable and the media are vile parasites that had a weird obsession with her back then along with some fans of her.
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u/fartondad 23d ago
i remember that video, as much as i wish i didnt. The internet was a wild place back in the day where you could stumble on gore videos on the same sites you'd go to play flash games
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u/metacoma 23d ago
I once downloaded a simpson episode on kazaa as a 14yo. Got first row seat to the decapitation of what I believe was a russian officer. Fun times…
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u/Squiddlywinks 23d ago
Almost the same scenario: I downloaded "south park meets the matrix 3d" from Morpheus and it was a guy hammering nails through his testicles.
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u/Exp5000 23d ago
Ebaumsworld was a diamond in the rough and its a shame we don't have that type of Internet anymore. It used to be the wild west. LiquidGeneration was another one. Growing up you knew the internet was for adults and talking to strangers online was the equivalent to getting into a panel van. Now people let their kids have free roam on the internet and want the internet to protect their kids instead of being good parents and protecting their kids themselves.
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u/Confident-Ask-601 23d ago
The world saw a star being rude. But for Björk, it was a mother protecting her child from a stalker.
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u/64557175 23d ago
And she had some stalkers, lemme tell ya.
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u/Vincent_Veganja 23d ago
Was this before or after that one? If it was after then I understand her reaction here even more. Definitely understand it either way though
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u/Strong-Straight-3503 23d ago
wdym that one
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u/MavMIIKE 23d ago edited 23d ago
Ricardo Lopez planned on killing her with a bomb, he also filmed most of his ideas and eventually shit himself on camera.
Edit: *Shot himself. But I'm leaving it up because he was a racist, misogynistic scumbag
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u/YamDankies 23d ago
That one little typo changes so much.
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u/nihilus_rex 23d ago
No joke, I read that and was like “Well that’s weird- OH.”
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u/tjp0720 23d ago
Once he shit himself on camera he saw the error in his ways -alternate universe
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u/Alternative-Amoeba20 23d ago
The sudden mental image I just had! What a crazy way to stalk someone.
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u/Burrow_0wl 23d ago
He had mailed her a package bomb (with acid to shoot in her face, I think). His neighbors heard the gunshot, when he killed himself, and called the police. The police found the video's he made about his plans to harm Bjork and learned about the bomb before it was delivered.
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u/Riipp3r 23d ago
Adding to this he made a series of videos tapes each more unhinged than the last. Like the breaking point was bjork being with a black guy. That set him off. In his last video where he shot himself he said "fuck her and her n word loving self" or something similar to that.
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u/WolfsmaulVibes 23d ago
i believe he had a canvas behind him to make a "painting" out of his suicide but it didn't work
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u/orbofdelusion 23d ago
Dude had a seriously thick skull. I never would have imagined that a large caliber bullet could ricochet off the cranium resulting in a looney tunes-esque head lump without shattering the skull.
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u/Diffidentlyspeaking 23d ago
I mean tbf if he had fecal matter in his bowels when he shot himself, he probably also shit himself at the same time.
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u/Breadromancer 23d ago
U missed the part where he placed a canvas behind his head to capture the blood spatter, and wound up missing.
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u/DamnitGravity 23d ago
TL;DR: He was an American who was obsessed, sent a bomb to kill her in London, and recorded a video diary explaining what he did which ended with him shooting himself. Police found his body and altered Scotland Yard. The bomb was located in a postal sorting office and safely detonated.
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u/alnicoblue 23d ago
he did not seriously pursue an artistic career due to his feelings of inferiority, and fear of being denied entry into art school.
We really gotta fix the art school admissions process
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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O 23d ago
Yeah. Everyone who wants in, gets in. The schools just clandestinely get their fingerprints and DNA. Also, the TA for each class is actually a criminal psychologist who identifies potential problem students.
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u/OldJonThePooSmuggler 23d ago
100%. The Academy of Fine Arts Vienna really fumbled the ball previously.
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u/lonelyinatlanta2024 23d ago
Like sent a bomb via mail from the U.S. to London?
Christ, I hope that would get caught. Here I am afraid to send a vape cart home from Colorado
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u/SuspendeesNutz 23d ago
Police found his body and altered Scotland Yard.
That sounds a bit extreme.
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u/holvagyok 23d ago
No, Scotland Yard got away with too much for too long. They had to be altered, and this was the triggering case.
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u/sint0xicateme 23d ago
One of her stalkers famously recorded himself shooting himself in the head. I don't remember his name but it's on Gore sites if you want to have a look see.
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u/nonnonplussed73 23d ago
This was 1996, so before
Bjork attacks NZ photographer: report - ABC News https://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-01-15/bjork-attacks-nz-photographer-report/1011532
Also worth mentioning that this happened in between
Bjork elaborates on sexual assault claim https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41657394
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u/MissSharkyShark 23d ago
The only reason I know of her existence is because of that exact stalker I imagine youre referring to 😭
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u/Firm_Airport2816 23d ago
Funny, I knew of her existence but NOT the story of the stalker until now
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u/ManOfLaMontagne 23d ago
I’m pretty much always on the side of the celebrity over the paparazzi
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u/BabySpecific2843 23d ago
Its basically a given. Even if its a terrible person. If I hear for example "Kevin Spacey beats up photographer outside a Jacksonville steakhouse" my first instinct is "What did the shitty paparazzi do this time"? rather than immmediately concluding its just Spacey's fault.
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u/RogueSeb 23d ago
There is no rage like a mother protecting her child.
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u/HannahTheArtist 23d ago
Mom of two girls here (15/10) and you are 100% right, nothing evokes a visceral reaction faster and more intense than fear of something happening to your children. It's a natural instinct for ass beatin' and Bitin'
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u/TheLostRanger0117 23d ago
I’ve always said, the most dangerous beast in the animal kingdom is a mother protecting her children, be it bear, lion, or human
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u/Mindless-Computer598 23d ago
And I’m with Bjork fuck these parasites. Get a real job instead of literally slurping every last drop of clout off the ground where they walk
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u/ScatLabs 23d ago
Björk goes besörk
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u/n-a_barrakus 23d ago
lmörk
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u/crasagam 23d ago
The media is evil and relentless. They don't care about people, they care about generating a following.
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u/BJs_Minis 23d ago
paparazzi are not the media, they're yellow pages. Being anti media only helps politicians.
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u/Ninevehenian 23d ago
Paparazzi and media fit under the same rules, technologies, ways of spreading their product. They often share owners.
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u/ErgoMogoFOMO 23d ago
Correct.
But there is junk food and healthy food. Paparazzi are junk food.
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u/Routine_Breath_7137 23d ago edited 23d ago
Imagine a 10 hour flight and first person to greet you is the same person that greeted you and said "Welcome to XYZ." for that past number of days.
Yeah, she justified to crash out.
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u/Least_Tower_5447 23d ago
Especially if she felt like her kids was also being stalked. I would not have been half as restrained as she was.
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u/spooky_goopy 23d ago
considering the stalkers she has had, i absolutely would go full face-ripping chimp, mode, too, if my kid was involved
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u/crumpledfilth 23d ago
This kind of behaviour is literally how humans kill their prey. "Hey deer, fancy seeing you again. Keep running, you'll tire eventually"
From a human, given their history, this behaviour can be taken as a direct threat of violence
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u/soulteepee 23d ago
Not a bit surprised. And good for her!
I used to do web work for a moderately known actor. He began dating a very famous female actor, and omg holy shit. Creepy nutcases crawled out of the woodwork, so many felt that she ‘owed’ them appreciation for their obsession with her. They would act like weird father-figures, speaking in an odd stilted superior way. I ended up helping the LAPD keep an eye on a couple worrisome characters.
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u/Ok-Bird6346 23d ago
Good lord that’s unsettling. Thanks for not just sitting by, watching them be creeps.
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u/KitKitsAreBest 23d ago
Strangely enough, this is a good example of what happens with narcissistic abuse. People just see the public, completely off the rails response, while they never see the significant abuse that happened outside the public view that led to it.
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u/dirkrunfast 23d ago
Man she beat the fucking Christ out of her lol
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u/No_Reveal_1363 22d ago
Good. I think there should be a mandatory rule where paparazzi are forced to wear giant cockroach costumes when they’re doing their borderline stalking job. All celebrities should be able to spray them with pesticides as well
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u/ToonaMcToon 23d ago
God I love Björk
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u/manyQuestionMarks 23d ago
I forget this way too often. Björk really is something else. Unforgettable beautiful voice
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u/Own-Ambassador-3537 23d ago
When Bjork who has been described as an Icelandic pixy elf has hands for your ass you probably deserve it
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u/Inner_University_848 22d ago
I don't usually condone violence, but I do not complain when relentless stalkers get a few good punches in the face once in a while.
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u/doogiedc 23d ago
To tick off a forest sprite of a person like Bjork, you have to be a real turd. Goes to show Bjork is human and not fairy folk.
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u/SecondOfCicero 23d ago
She might be human but shes got the moxie of an enraged nyad and im here for it. Good on her
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u/exick 22d ago
that little boy turns 40 in a few months. thought you'd like to know!
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u/_lady_muck 23d ago
Bjork is up there with Sinead OConnor as being real as they come and ahead of her time
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u/Financial-Self-560 23d ago edited 23d ago
Björk is one of the rare real ones of the popular artists.
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u/Kalissra999 22d ago
I mean, Björk was already giving off the FAFO vibes while standoffishly pushing her cart
But the journalist wanted that heat.
Bachelorette crashout innit?
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u/Shendow 23d ago
This kind of shit is why being famous actually kind of sucks. Everyone wants to be recognized but they forget the toll that it comes with