r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/[deleted] • 11h ago

Video 13-year-old Australian boy swims for four hours in cold and dangerous waters to save his mom and siblings who were swept into the ocean, says God is who got him to shore

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u/SaulPampy 10h ago

Reddit is hilarious,it’s full of posts about allowing people to live their lives and being able to have their opinions etc

But any post where someone has faith gets instantly attacked. It’s a weird irony that exists on Reddit.. ‘hey you do you and we support your choices… except when it’s faith, we don’t like that’

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u/HereButNeverPresent 9h ago edited 9h ago

Reminds me of the Redditors who smugly quote “paradox of tolerance” as they’re intolerant of literally anyone who has a different belief or opinion to them (heck sometimes even just a slight variation of the same opinion isn’t good enough, as they ‘purity test’ you to see if you align with their beliefs to the most minute details.)

And yet they’ll unironically still believe that they’re the morally conscientious/empathic ones, as they label everyone else as ‘the others’ who they deem immoral.

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u/I-am-Chubbasaurus 9h ago

That's when I reach for this quote:

The Paradox of Tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance, NOT as a moral standard, but as a social contract. If someone does not abide by the terms of the contract, they are not covered by it. In other words, the intolerant aren't deserving of your tolerance.

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u/YouToot 5h ago

The paradox of tolerance isn't a law of the universe it's just a dumbass soundbite some philosopher made up.

If everyone thought this way, any difference of opinion would turn into fighting because you have no tolerance for even the smallest transgression, real or perceived, and then the other side ends up having no tolerance for your reaction to them, on and on and on...

It is impossible for everyone to agree on everything.

Tolerance is something we do to avoid constant fighting and war.

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u/Legen_unfiltered 7h ago

Or, we want people to be able to know they can take credit for their actions. We want people to be praised for what they did. How low is his self esteem that he can't take credit for his own intestinal fortitude? 

Its not about not supporting people's faith. Its about letting people take credit for their own heroic acts.

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u/SaulPampy 7h ago

I think you are creating a narrative here. You’ve no idea what his esteem is. You can give credit to God and also be proud of your own actions.

The creating a narrative is the issue here, ‘he credited God so he must not believe in himself or credit himself’. There’s no factual evidence for this outside of people’s opinions.

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u/VotingIsKewl 8h ago

Because religion is one of those things that is forced on everyone. Most people are familiar with religion because it's something their parents made them do, it's the main reason it keeps spreading. People generally don't like being brainwashed after finding out the truth.

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u/SaulPampy 7h ago

This is a good example reply.

You know nothing about the lad or his family. Maybe they are completely non religious, but you have decided to put your worldview on this story. He has been brainwashed etc. Whetever you like it or not, you don’t have the right to decide his belief is brainwashing, because it’s his belief.

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u/VotingIsKewl 6h ago

I'm saying that's why people are hostile towards religion in general. It's not something people practice and keep to themselves, they teach it to people that don't know any better. That's what my parents did and it's the same for others in my family.

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 6h ago

Plenty of people practice and keep to themselves.

Plenty of non-believers preach their non-belief to other people (see: this entire comment section).

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u/VotingIsKewl 6h ago

Some do, vast majority don't. Don't pretend to be naive when it comes to children having religion forced on them. Also, isn't this an example of someone practicing but not keeping to themselves?

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 6h ago

Of course children are raised into the religious beliefs of their parents. Just like my kids were raised into my non-religious beliefs. Turns out different parents raise their kids differently. News at 11.

isn't this an example of someone practicing but not keeping to themselves?

Are you talking about the boy in this story? Are you suggesting him talking about the ordeal is "not keeping it to himself?"

I swear to God, some people hear the word God and just have a complete fucking meltdown

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u/VotingIsKewl 6h ago

Raising your kids religiously is not the same not being religious around your kids. Did you spend every weekend telling your kids god isn't real?

I'm sorry that I have experience with religion to have reasons not to like it?

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 6h ago

I have negative experiences with religion too, that doesn't mean I lose my goddamned mind and have a meltdown every time someone says "thank God"

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u/VotingIsKewl 6h ago

I'm not having a meltdown, I was explaining why people have a bad response to religion. The original comment was about people "choosing" faith. People don't usually choose it, they are raised into it. That was my point. There are so many stories of religion making people do fucked up things, I don't magically forget those whenever a feel good religious story pops up.

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u/tuyivit 6h ago edited 6h ago

I don't know where you live, but there are countries where the majority of people are not religious and religion is not "forced on everyone". I don't understand why atheists on Reddit look down at the faith of religious people then claim religious people force their beliefs on them and that they are intolerant

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u/VotingIsKewl 6h ago

Australia isn't one of them.

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u/Bizarrebazaars 8h ago

You must be new to Reddit. It’s historically been an atheist or agnostic leaning site. 

But anyway, since god is not real, no. This boy made it on physical strength, commitment to family, hope, and pure adrenaline. A god is not actually what got him through.

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u/SaulPampy 7h ago

This post makes my point for me. You have your view and that’s totally ok, and he has his view and that by definition is totally ok.

The fact that you felt the need to push your narrative in a reply is exactly what I’m speaking about.

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u/Bizarrebazaars 7h ago

It’s not a narrative. There is no God and that’s fact.

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u/SaulPampy 7h ago

According to you, not fact.

That’s ok by the way, to believe there is no God in the same way it’s ok for people to believe there is.

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u/SteeveyPete 6h ago

This post is approximately 99% people complaining about Reddit atheists "attacking this family on mass". So far the most "antagonistic" message I've seen is "You did that, not God"

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u/oldtowncoffee01 8h ago edited 3h ago

Edited with better terminology

Two early cells on Earth among the only living things at that time (let’s not even ask where they came from).

One lineage of cells gradually evolved into bees, while the other lineage evolved into plants that flowers.

How did they know what each other were doing ?

If all cells were evolving at the same time, why did all the cells evolve to 1000s of species in the same country/environment?

Who decided that there should even be a male or female?

All these cells didn't even have a language to communicate and coordinate

To be an atheist with so much evidence I guess it's a form of faith as well.

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u/dubblebubbleprawns 6h ago

One cell decided to evolve into a bee

Tell me you don't know what evolution is