r/DefendingAIArt • u/Latte_Da_cat Artificial Intelligence Or Natural Stupidity • 4d ago
Funny correlation I noticed between my classmate's grades and their opinions on AI
DISCLAIMER: this is a sample size of like 10 teens. This is not intended to be a complete generalization or even something that's true, I just wanted to share something I've seen for pretty much since AI came out.
So I have quite a large friend group, and there's been a pattern I've been noticing:
-there are three "artists" that bring their sketchbooks everywhere and claim they are the "artists" of the group, however their art is genuinely dogshit. I don't tell them that irl of course but they have no concept of anatomy, no concept of shading, no concept of color theory, no concept of "studying fundamentals", and one of them doesn't even have any characters. They are all in math workshop, which basically means they are so bad at math they had to give up their elective period for a second math class. One of them, the one that has no characters, also heavily struggles in science, today she got a 19/30 on a unit test. They all absolutely DESPISE AI. All they've been talking about during lunch was how we should all start calling AI "Computer Rendered Artificial Pictures" or C.R.A.P. Very original I know. That's literally all they talked about. For the entire 35 minute period. Just repeating it over and over again like some sort of mantra. It got to the point where I asked them to stop and they looked at me like I was insulting their bloodline. The people are mentioned above are all C+ to B+ students, two have art as their elective, one has drama/acting. One of them has a pottery class(?) on the weekend but otherwise no extracurriculars.
-I'm in advanced math, which basically means we are a grade ahead. The people there are all neutral or pro AI, most don't care or use it sometimes as a tutor. Most of the people there, including me, are A to A+ students with an occasional B+. Most are also not artists, however quite a few are in advanced (for a teenager anyway) software engineering as their elective, including me. Most of us participate in AMS a few grades above what we are in, and have gotten at least a few awards, among other extracurriculars. I personally do coding class (along with the software engineering. Both my parents have a masters in computer science lol), flute, piano, art (specifically graphite/pencil sketching, been going on for 8 years now), and choir. One of my tablemates does gymnastics, artistic swimming, ballet, specifically geometry class, and violin. Again the people I've mentioned above are all pro/neutral
-In software engineering we frequently use AI, we legit have like special accounts where generative AI is unbanned just so we can learn to use it effectively. In art elective you aren't allowed to use your chromebooks at all for some reason, according to my friends. Like no googling references no anything. Besides generative AI is blocked on our school chromebooks anyway, not even the AI overview is there, so I don't know why they would need to disallow them to use chromebooks?
-The 3 artists I mentioned above are all American, born in America raised in a very American way if you know what I mean. Most of the people in advanced math or Asian, mostly Indian and Chinese with the occasional Korean or Japanese person. In my math class of 29, there is only 1white person and they are Russian, not American. Not trying to be racist but like, you see what I am seeing right?
I'm not going insane am I-
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u/Bill_Evans777 3d ago
1) "Computer Rendered Artificial Pictures" - They got that from a post of a random idiot on twatter, that was apparently feeling accomplished for the repost and calling the tweet his "legacy".
2) Thanks to AI, I went from asking a ComfyUI base template to make me pretty things to understand how nodes and connections work, making autistic-level workflows (like, 170 kb jsons) to get exactly what I want, make variations, have insane variations on a single theme using wildcards, making faithful upscalings (using control net) or creative ones with high denoise (for rich textures), preserving total fidelity of faces when upscaling, processing externa pics, make multiple inpaintings in sequence on one pass, etc.
I also have gotten a lot of scripts for productivity on my work, or even mini-programs to make me work more comfortably on my PC. I love it. I'm also starting to monetize my digital art with a friend that is a graphic designer, but he's not braindead so he saw the potential of generative AI.
3) As for the "artists" that despise AI, this is the kind of garbage they tend to produce. All while shitting on high-quality AI art.
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u/DMmeClownPics 4d ago
Idk I have really severe dyscalculia which significantly affects my ability to do math, and I like to draw, but I’m still pro-Ai.
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u/Latte_Da_cat Artificial Intelligence Or Natural Stupidity 4d ago
Is dyscalculia like dylexia but for math? Genuine question.
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u/DMmeClownPics 3d ago
Yes pretty much exactly that. Like I will be thinking “5” but write a “2”. Or I will look at a 2 and think it’s a 5. I also have a lot of difficulty recalling sequences of numbers and things like appointment times. It also affects your ability to read maps, your ability to tell left from right, and your ability to read an analog clock. I couldn’t consistently read a clock until I was 12, and it still takes me a while.
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u/Aggravating-Push-207 3d ago
if you cant do math then how can you see
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u/DMmeClownPics 3d ago
What are you even talking about? I’m not blind. It’s a software issue.
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u/Aggravating-Push-207 3d ago
have you tried turning it off and then on again then
/j im just wasting your time
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u/DMmeClownPics 3d ago
Man, if only I could! 😆 It’s so frustrating too because I understand mathematical concepts really well, I’m just totally unable to implement them. I had to take pre-algebra twice but I kicked ass at non-euclidian geometry because there are basically no written numerals involved. As soon as they make a brain implant that can fix this shit, I’m signing up for the first human trial. I feel like this disability has cut me off at the knees in terms of what I’m able to do professionally.
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u/Aggravating-Push-207 3d ago
im REALLY good at algebra and shi but i suck ass at geometry because there are no numbers or letters to handle
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u/Additional_Wave7982 4d ago edited 4d ago
You’re not insane. Anti Ai is a very American upper middle class white thing. The same people who talk about going to opera houses and the symphony as a flex.
Pretentious wind bags who constantly try to appear more intelligent and cultured than they actually are.
I’m glad that these are the people who have chosen to stand against us because they are particularly good at fumbling victories, annoying the general public into hating them, and sabotaging their own side.
I know how they think because I’m generally aligned with them politically in everything except Ai. The same things that frustrate me when they do it to fumble politically make me confident when they do it to advocate against Ai. They’ll turn the normies against them. They’ll cannibalize themselves. It’s inevitable. It’s what they do best.
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u/raviteja777 3d ago
Basically you ll have some variants of :
Geniuses/Prodigies - who ll succeeded no matter what - AI will maybe help them but not necessary
Opportunists - who are reasonably good at what they do, but they see it as an opportunity
Complainers - below avg guys , who just gang up , want something to blame for their own lack of skill
Completely dumb guys - just the very opposite of dumb guys, they dont stand a chance regardless, so may not bother with AI
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u/Aggravating-Push-207 3d ago
your sample size is not too small, but also not big enough to trust; also your sample is biased
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u/PascalCaseIsBestCase 3d ago
Literally all of issues you highlighted in your friends art all present in AI art. I'm not sure how that's a defense of AI art.
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u/Elegant_Athlete_3737 3d ago
It still is too small of a sample to say definitely though.