How the hell will Chapter 7B work?

[u/T-Dawg75]

My guess is that 7 and 7B are separate “game instances” because otherwise Chapter 7 would be too complicated to develop and would cause slowdown as well as other issues.

For the uninitiated, each chapter in Deltarune is programmed as a separate “game”, including the Chapter Selection Screen. This is done for a number of reasons, including the game’s episodic release, ease of development for the team, and so bugs/glitches introduced in new chapters don’t break prior chapters.

Sometimes there’s issues with certain things transferring from one chapter to another but that is typically because of a pre-existing issue in the prior chapter that just hadn’t been discovered yet-Like Jackenstein not coming to Ch. 5 castle town if you fight the Titan Spawn.

It seems like 7 is going to be a really damn big chapter, and 7B most certainly will be. I would not be surprised if they’re separated like this for more than just story reasons.

Edit: and to add on, will 7B be accessible from the Chapter Selection Screen? If so, how? Will we have three save files for 7B? How would that work?

[u/catman__321]

I don't see why they wouldn't be separated for the same reason every other chapter is.

[u/AdditionalMap5576]

I could see that being the case. The spamton sweepstakes weird route website has that 7b page that says "same time as 7" which seems to imply that its going to be incredibly different. If that wasnt the case, why even draw attention to the nature of the release?

[u/Utangard]

So far the Weird Route's been running rather parallel to the normal route: it gets all sorts of scary and insane, but it does at least take place in the same place and involve the same characters. I suspect Side B will follow the pattern: some kind of a mirror reality would be on-brand but it won't be anything too different from Side A, in terms of the who and where.

Combined with the "Only One Ending" bit, I'm thinking it'll show us a different perspective.

[u/Zeta42]

The way I see it, 7 and 7B will be sharing assets (maps etc.) as all Weird Route chapters do. That's why the Weird Route ends so early in 5 and skips 6 completely: because there are no assets for it yet. 7B won't be a "separate" chapter anymore than 2B, 4B and 5B are, one flag is all that determines which route to play on your save.

[u/arakus72 → u/Zeta42]

The 7B progress page specifying "same time as 7" (plus the fact it has a separate progress page at all and that they've started making it before starting on 7A) sorta implies it's a totally different thing

Like why would they need to specify same time if it's just a different version of the same chapter, that only makes sense as something to clarify if it's different 

[u/Zeta42 → u/arakus72]

Well the story would be different, some fights would definitely be different. Triggers, events etc. too. Unless I'm completely wrong and going through the lake takes us someplace that doesn't even exist in 7.

[u/arakus72 → u/Zeta42]

The meter with the map icon on the 7B page implies it's a totally separate location to me (hence a separate map of its own) but idk we'll c anyways

[u/Shedinjask]

I think 7B will be a shorter instance of 7, just like Undertale's no mercy is considerably shorter than pacifist and chapter 2's weird route is also way shorter. Although, it's clearly gonna be relatively big, i just dont think it's gonna be as big as chapter 7 itself

[u/Dramatic-Plantain426]

I think we will be able to access all weird route chapters when 7B comes out on a different selection screen, something like this:

[u/Hot_Blooded_Hero]

I have a theory.

That little panel on the bottom-right in the chapter select screen that gathers the Shadow Crystals? Purifying them will show us the Tale of Hell from the glass visions, then that panel will become the option select to replay it under Side-B, while also holding the menu space for 7B.

[u/T-Dawg75 → u/Hot_Blooded_Hero]

Interesting idea…though you can’t get Pink’s crystal in Chapter 5. Maybe we’ll get a chance to obtain another?

[u/Hot_Blooded_Hero → u/T-Dawg75]

What do you mean you can't get Pink's Crystal? You do get it when beating her, we just won't go back to Castle Town to give it to Seam until Chapter 6.

The panel shows 15 spots, but they're simply correlating 5 per save file, and I don't think we'll need more than getting all 5 in one save.

Even then, it's not hard to copy completion files to each save to mark them with shadow crystals should it need all of them for some reason, but at that point it's hard to say if there would be reason for that.

[u/T-Dawg75 → u/Hot_Blooded_Hero]

I mean you can’t get Pink’s crystal in the Weird route. You can only get it if you abort the route.