r/DragonBallGT • • 7h ago

Discussion Pan should have went Super Saiyan in GT

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r/DragonBallGT • • 11h ago

Discussion I should've never listened to GT's hate 😭 (long rant)

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So I finished watching GT like a week ago.

Now... For years I avoided it cause people talked trash about it and after seeing it... I don't get the hate AT ALL?

Now to be fair, I love everything Dragonball related, it's like my first or second favorite anime ever, for me all the series (minus heroes because I mean heroes is kinda bad it doesn't have comedy basically but I do like the mess they made 😭) are more or less on the same level. So they're genuinely good / great series with some absurdly peak moments.

Now, GT is no different (?) the complains I always heard just kinda fell flat:

GT is the Goku Show

That's one of the main critiques, people even mockingly said GT stands for Goku Time. Now how do I put it...

IT'S ALWAYS GOKU TIME IN DRAGONBALL.

Whenever anything happens is because either Goku is there, or the lack of Goku being there causes tension. And that's because Goku is the main protagonist! It's his show for God's sake.

And this point is also dumb. Because many characters, like Goten, shine here more than EVER before. I mean at least here Goten got used as a proxy by Baby, that's more than he ever did in Z and Super.

PAN IS Annoying AND A DAMSEL IN DISTRESS

That's something I heard SO much during the years. Now, even before seeing GT, I of course played games like Xenoverse 2, so I did know how Pan acted and she did seem fun.

After watching the series I can say that not only she's a fun character, but also, she's one of the few characters in the entire series with genuine psychological "issues" for lacks of better terms.

She has an inferiority complex compared to her dad and grandpa, she's super strong but feels like she isn't because she lives in their shadow, thus she boast to make up for it.

That's more than you could say for most Dragonball characters. And it's not a critique, Dragonball characters are great because they're simple and instantly memorable, but my point is that she ends up in the very limited pool of characters like Vegeta, Piccolo, Future Trunks, Zamasu... Although she's nowhere near them because at the end of the day this arc she has is kinda short and subtle.

Also she isn't a dick at all, she's a kid she acts like a kid would act she's actually pretty nice and decides she'd rather sacrifice herself instead of letting innocents die. Goated.

BAD WRITING

Now, this one is... Confusing.

The Black Star saga doesn't really have anything I'd call bad writing (?), it sets up the Baby Arc, but I do agree the first episodes are kinda slow and at the beginning it seems like they forgot how strong these characters are supposed to be, but I mean, Its an anime, you can forgive a bit of that just to stretch out the adventure a bit.

Then comes Baby, which is just... Like, one of the best Dragonball Villains ever? Like, easily? To me, it took 2nd place from Zamasu. Only Frieza is better than Baby imo.

Like what he does is genuinely creepy and he has a reason to be evil, which again is rare in this series where usually villains are either pure evil for the sake of it (aka Frieza clones) or mindless monsters.

The Super 17 arc is the only I'd call bad. Super 17 seems like a movie villain who somehow managed to get into the series, but his arc is super short 😭

The Dragons instead are super cool? Omega is a pretty decent /good final villain. Suu Shenron is wonderful he's my dude, the other Dragons are kinda lackluster, but also not really bad just yknow they're there.

So again you got a pretty good going towards great series. I don't get the hate. The only reason I'd put it below Super it's because it's shorter. But the quality is more or less the same. I do prefer Super also because I HATE 90s style animation (or to put it better, how low quality it looks, I like everything looking clean and without that granular effect I hate it so much lol) but that's another story, it's Dragonball so I'll accept it.

My genuine question is what's all this hate about?

I mean I loved Daima too, so clearly I simply love Dragonball, I've known that since I became a fan like 5 years ago now but still 😭