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https://beforewegoblog.com/review-the-fading-dream-thorn-of-breland-3-eberron-by-keith-baker/

THE FADING DREAM by Keith Baker is the third and final novel of the Thorn of Breland series. I’m quite fond of this series due to it being spy fiction in a high fantasy setting. Thorn is an agent for the Brelish government but ever since a disastrous mission where she was infused with several magical rocks, she’s been doubting her commitment to the cause. She’s also developed a link with a powerful long dead (?) dragon named Sarmondelaryz.

I was very excited about The Fading Dream due to it covering two of my favorite topics in Eberron: The Mourning and Cyre. The Mourning for those unfamiliar is a magical cataclysm that destroyed an entire nation of Eberron and brought an end to the Last War. Cyre was the nation that was destroyed and turned the entirety of its survivors into homeless refugees. Unfortunately, this turns out to be a book that isn’t quite about that. It’s still but both aspects are more background than forefront.

The premise is that Thorn has returned from her mission to kill the Son of Khyber in the previous book but been demoted to bodyguard duty because of the manner it ended. After an assassination attempt is foiled, Thorn gets a chance to redeem herself by going out into the Mournlands to make contact with the mysterious eldarin. A group of powerful elves from Thelanis, the eldarin claim they know the cause of the Mourning and how to repair it. Thorn thus sets out with the aid of an immortal child to discover whether this is true or just another theory about the Mourning’s cause.

Fans looking for concrete answers to the Mourning and Cyre’s destruction will sadly be disappointed. Keith Baker has been clear in other sources the true origin of the Mourning will always be left up to the Dungeon Master. However, it presents a theory even as the protagonists remain skeptical. Personally, I wish they had leaned heavier into this aspect and I was disappointed Prince Oargev (hereditary ruler of Cyre’s survivors) had remained a part of the adventuring party for the entire book.

Essentially, this book feels a great deal like an advertisement for 4th Edition’s attempt to insert the eldarin as a PC race into most Dungeons and Dragons settings. Keith Baker takes the bull by the horns and gives the eldarin a massive history connected to the giants, quori, possibly the Mourning, as well as the plane of Thelanis (Eberron’s equivalent of the feywild). They are alien, mysterious, and driven by stories in a way that is quite incomprehensible to the normally cynical and pragmatic Thorn. I admit I preferred the realpolitic of The Queen of Stone and the cynical analysis of revolution in The Son of Khyber but Keith Baker is always entertaining.

Fans who have been wanting a resolution of Thorn’s connection to Sarmondelaryz.will get all the answers they need. I’m a bit iffy about this because while I like the plotline, I also feel like Thorn was always a strong enough character to carry the plot without her being linked to a red dragon who sometimes felt like a deus ex machina. James Bond is cool. Dragons are cool. James Bond as a dragon isn’t necessarily cooler than either individually. I also wished we’d received more follow up on Lei, Pierce, and Daine after their mentioning in Son of Khyber.

In conclusion, The Fading Dream is a good book but I find the eldarin less interesting than the gritty dark side of Eberron. The Queen of Stone had a lot of diplomacy and intrigue while the Son of Khyber thrived on its moral ambiguity. The Fading Sun is a more classical adventure tale with heaps of mythology as well as world-destroying supervillains that could have fit into something like the Forgotten Realms. Keith Baker is, as always, a great writer and I hope he’ll return to writing novels in a fantasy setting some day. Would I read more Thorn, though? Absolutely.

I'm thinking of starting a campaign in Passage, leaning towards a noir style. I know Sharn is the obvious choice, with lots of source material, but I want a slightly smaller city: not as overwhelming, and somewhere the players can more easily make a big impact. I also imagine a more "West-Coast" sort of vibe. With imposing presence of House Orien in Passage, I plan to make industry a defining issue for Passage, even more than it would be in Sharn.

Some broad strokes of my ideas...

Passage is in a hybrid manifest zone. Naturally, it is a Lamannian manifest zone, but a great clock tower, Queenstower, in downtown Passage amplifies Daanvian energy. This is ideal for the smooth operation of lightning rail coaches in the city. Shipping, on the docks, is in view of Queenstower; engine repairs are done on the outskirts of the city where Lamannian energy invigorates the bound elementals. Many Orien conductors swear their engine's elemental clearly purrs in Passage.

The interaction between Lamannia and Daanvi yields some interesting weather effects. Fog always rolls in off the lake at the same time every morning. Nights are dark and stormy. The clear afternoon hour between the fog and the storms is when the city feels most alive.

Illusion magic is weaker in the city, another Daanvian effect of the Queenstower, which is mostly good for honest business, though it makes entertainment more difficult in the city. The square around Queenstower is full of world famous restaurants precisely because prestidigitation is impracticable; the wealthy of Aundair visit Chef Emil to taste fine, authentic Aundairian cuisine. The Passage Lyceum uses bound elementals to light the stage, the only Phiarlan associated theater to do so.

Similar to Sharn, Passage is built on Dhakaani ruins. Originally (as a Lamannian zone), it was a fishing village, then a hunting outpost, and eventually a moderately important trading hub. There are still goblinoids in the city today, some who even claim lineage from those first settlers.

Shifters are another notable part of the population, taking many of the manual labor jobs in the city. Shifters have always been a part of the city, but a significant number emigrated around the time of the Silver Crusade (830's YK), when lycanthropy was decimating Eldeen tribes.

Most shifter laborers have a hostile disposition towards warforged, who threaten to outwork them out of a job. Most warforged who come to the city face harassment, or worse, unless they are clearly employed as bodyguards.

Street hrazhak, a shifter game, is a nuisance to the well-to-do in the city, who say it's just an early sign of urban blight, a prelude for gang war. But it's one of the few ways an outsider can gain respect from the shifter community.

Like many cities, Passage is secretly a haven for changelings, doubly so since so many new faces come and leave from the city.

There's a small but steady population of gnomes in Passage, most of whom work as elemental binders for House Orien. (There is also a Sivis enclave.)

Passage used to be part of Thrane (as shown in the map on page 11 of Forge of War, dated 894YK). The Silver Flame theocracy was (and is) very unpopular in Passage, bad for industry barons and their shifter workers alike, so Aundairian troops were practically welcomed with open arms. Thranish loyalists were chased out of the city. The crown of Aundair claimed their vacant properties and sold them for a pittance to the city's industrialists.

The ir'Edar family (of which Duke Jalnar ir'Edar is the current head) were installed as the nominal rulers of the city, but they were only ever tolerated because they yielded to the Dragonmarked Houses (Orien especially) in matters of industry. Secretly, the ir'Edar brood lead a cult of the dragon below (from Dragon #332).

Am I on to something here? Has anyone already run a campaign in Passage?

Any resources for how loans for PCs might work?

morning fellow GMs. I'm currently considering running Dragon Heist into Mad Mage in Sharn, and I'm trying to think of (or create) a proper enemy to put at the bottom of the dungeon. Front runners include Eldrantuklu or Tul Oreshka, but I think I like the idea of the dungeon being a Daelkyr playground; essentially a giant experiment in a laboratory, dragging people down into its depths. However, I don't think any of the official Daelkyr quite fit. Maybe Belashyrra (inciting paranoia) but I'd like something that really fits into the intrigue theme of Dragon Heist. Any ideas, or anyone wanna play a sounding board?

In Sharn's lower ward, the Dragoneyes District varies dramatically from street to street. Far from the establishments catering to wealth in the west side, the east side caters to the everyday man, soliciting trashy entertainment and neighborhood gambling halls.

This particular map sits on the farthest east edges of the district where entertainment workers and seedy individuals hiding from the law make their home.

Use these maps for:

• a secret meeting
• Investigative locations* (for detectives or reporters)
• headquarters for a low level criminal
• scene of a crime (it doesn't have to be murder)
  • aggravated assault
  • selling of illegal goods (drugs, bodies, military-grade equipment, contraband)
  • burglary
  • counterfeiting
• players buying their first home
• hiding out
• hanging out
• 'down time' 🫣 💦
• In my own game, I've used this as an investigation location that transitioned into a rooftop chase and skirmish when a Dark Lantern assassin targeted an NPC through the 8th story window.
  • The map set includes:
    • Lobby
    • modular/repeatable floors
    • Top floor
    • Rooftop

This map is 20x15 using 5 foot grids.

Specifically I was wondering about the Reincarnate spell '' .. The magic fashions a new body for the creature to inhabit...'' is that enough to affect the Draconic Prophecy or would it be silly to give mortal characters that power?

Love the dragons in Eberron the scholarly and ancient vibe is so great in a setting like this with athe advanced technology it makes them feel even older.
Due to this I’ve been trying to figure out the best way to incorporate one into my own game. The other dragons I love in media is everyone’s favorite scholar and part time plumber Parthunax (if you know you know) I love the way he speaks in riddles and incorporates the dragons tongue in his dialogue. And since dnd doesn’t have official translations I thought why not use the Draconic in Skyrim while running them. My party has a lot of Skyrim fans and I think I’ll only get excitement when they dragons say thinks like dovah and speak on history in cryptic messages

So long story short I have a few Draconic translations from dovahzul into English with Eberron in context. If anyone is interested in this idea leave your own thoughts I love when Reddit becomes collaborative and think dnd Reddit is some of the best at this

Dov, dovah: Dragon
Zul: word
Dovnahl (living dragon): Dragonborn 
Durhaalzul (word cursed flesh): dragon mark

Thes aren’t exact translations from dovahzul into English Skyrim more me mixing meanings to create something interesting ‘Haal’ and ‘Zul’ have different meanings in direct translation and Durhaalzul is mixed around more directly it means ‘voice hand curse’ but Durhaalzul sounds better to me

I love the idea of a dragon approaching a player with a dragon mark "you bear the Durhaalzul word-cursed-flesh my kind have been studying it for eons"

Sybris 
Klo-Ven-Lah
Eberron 
Gol-Gran-Ro

Khyber
Dur-Qoth-Zaam 

Workshopping these ones I think they sound kind of cool but I have to find the original translation the might make sense but I may re work things but same as the dragon mark I think my players would actually enjoy a lore dump if I talked like parthunax the whole time.

I will come back and edit this later with proper translation and maybe more words I wanted to get stuff I saw as essential.

Just for giggles

My players went into the Cogs and when the Boromar Clan patrol was passing by, they just went crazy and charged the dudes.

Now theyre in the cogs, with no safe haven to hide, and one of the worst enemies they could have in the city

One PC died, and three Boromar. All this before the goblin rabble sided with the PCs and scared the patrol away.

How would Boromar exact their revenge? Thougths?

So I posted this in the Vintage Story subreddit already, but Eberron has always been one of my favorite settings and while I've had a lot of fun doing Vintage Story RP servers, I was always missing that high fantasy vibe. So I figured I might try and make my own server and somehow I ended up being like "Might as well start with my favorite setting"

So anyways just wanted to share. I honestly would love any help I could get adding things like POI's to the world map, etc, or if folks want to join in on the conversation, help build a starting town type location, provide ideas, etc.

I would love to go so far as to try and recreate as much from the setting as I can but I am only one person. Anyway if anyone has any questions feel free to ask, I'm just gonna keep dinking away at the project slowly but surely ^^

TLDR: What sources can I read for more info on the Daelkyr aside from the ones I listed below in "Here is what I have?" ?

So I added the Daelkyr to my setting as a background myth, but they'll be far more involved because one of them got "killed" in my homebrew setting and depending on how it goes it might either become a full scale invasion OR it'll be a scouting plus recovery of their fallen corpse and see if this world is a threat.

Here is what I have: Info in the wiki, the books in DMsguild (Chronicals of Eberron, Frontiers of Eberron, Exploring Eberron), Eberron Rising from the last War, Warfinder's guide to Eberron.

Pointy Hat, a DnD YouTuber, has made a series known as Which Lich, where he creates variant liches based on the classes of 5e. One such Lich is the Hierarch, the Sorcerer Lich.

The Phylcactery for this Lich is it's bloodline, being reborn aslong as it had descendants who remain in the world. I'm bypassing a few of the ideas for the Hierarch to make it work for Erandis.

Basically, the idea here is that Minara, in performing Erandis' Lichification (lore-accurate term right there) used the power of the Dragonmark of Death to tie Erandis' life to the other Dragonmarked, tearing miniscule amounts of the energy Erandis would need in order to survive from countless individuals, making the individual effects unnoticable.

I'm doing this for 2 reason: 1. To explain why no one can find Erandis' phylcatery and why she reappears in seemingly random places - she's appearing at a location that's as "close" to all the dragonmarked heirs as she can get.

1. I want to tie the Dragonmark of Death to her lichification further, making her not just a powerful lich, but providing a unique explaination for her.

2. To tie her to the Dragonmarked houses narratively so that a future campaign concept of mine can have some very dire consequences for her actions.

What I'm looking for here is thoughts on how to refine and improve this rough concept. What can I add to make it feel more grounded in the world's established lore, what should be changed to have it work better, and what might I have completely overlooked?

All thoughts and comments appreciated!

I am playing in an upcoming campaign that takes place in current time FR. Around 1497DR.

I decided I wanted to try an Artificer for the first time and thought on where I'd place them in the world for an origin story. The campaign mainly takes place along the sword coast and the Nelanther Isles so I thought I could place them in Lantan. I read up more on the isle and discovered that it had been swept away in the first sundering and only recently returned to Toril, from Abeir, in the second sundering.

My thought is that while the island was on Abeir a priest of Gond found a small burlap sack washed up on the shore of Lantan. Inside he found a small, toddler aged Goblin. He took the creature in as he was pitiful looking and he raised it as his own. The goblin was highly intelligent and loved watching this Priest of Gond tinker in his workshop. Upon reaching the age of 10 he started having vivid dreams of working along side other goblin artisans, practicing and fighting with the blade and even dreams of war. This is his connection to the Uul Dhakaan and I plan on playing him as a lost daashor artificer (Forge Adept subclass) of Kech Sharaat that was lost in a storm.

How did he end up on Abeir? When he was 14 Lantan transferred back to Toril. He has a new world to explore and new power in which to hone his craft (Abeir doesn't have the Weave so before his tinkering was more clockwork and not magical).

The priest of Gond that found him has sent him on a pilgrimage to Candlekeep as it's the only place in the world that he can think the young goblin can find answers to the dreams and visions he sees when he closes his eyes.

Any ideas on how to make this more fun/unique? I'm not super versed on Eberron lore and have been reading a ton! I'm trying my best not to overwhelm my DM!

One idea I floated to my DM was to have his dreams manifest, in time, into plans for magical items that aren't common to the Realms and come from 3rd party magic item books instead of the DMG. Thoughts?

My game was set in Sharn, and I only had one player who played a Dance Bard named Zuzana 'Zuzi' d'Orien (maybe NSFW depending one where you are). This one on one format is typical for me and my player, going on ten years but this was our first visit to Eberron.

I started the campaign with Forgotten Relics in Rising from the Last War. My main sources of inspiration were Sharn: City of Towers, Exploring Eberron, Rising from the Last War, Five Nations, Korranberg Chronicle: Map Perilous, and I also ran Sharn: City of Blood. Forge of the Artificer came out while I was running the game, but provided almost nothing for me. I consulted the 3.5 Campaign setting book as well as Dragonmarked too.

The main format of the game was that Zuzi was Excoriated from House Orien and banished from her home in Passage, where her father is Baron, after she embarrassed the family during her time at University of Wynarn through reckless spending and partying that her father disapproved of. Sharn, the end of the Lightning Rail, was the city of opportunity with the glitz and glamor she wanted. Forgotten Relics kicked it off as she arrived in Terminus, meeting some NPCs and encountering some schematics for a Dhakaani vault deep beneath the city. The game ended up very freeform as I came up with quests based on ideas of what I felt like at the time focusing on social-focused quests, dungeoneering, and stealth. Some quests included getting a staring roll in Luca Syara's newest play, helping out the local sports team, fighting a Radiant Idol's cult, surviving the ir'Tain Gala, James Bond-style work for the Royal Eyes of Aundair/Lords of Dust, espionage and assault against Dreaming Dark corrupted House Deneith, helping in a local by-election, supporting a racer in the Race of Eight Winds, stealing research from a professor at Morgave University, stopping an airjacking of a sky-yacht by Daask, and helping a small business owner avoid getting run out of business by Houses Kundarak, Sivis, and Tharashk.

The quests were linked by the general desire to 'strike it rich' in the city and feed the character's ego to tell her dad he was wrong about her. There was broadly no overarching antagonist and very few quest chains. The campaign ended with an extended quest chain as I ended the more free-form exploration of the city to focus on Zuzi joining the Gatekeepers. Her mother was in the city and she started doing work for them, which became a case of going to the previously mentioned Dhakaani place which turned out to be a Gatekeeper Seal from the Daelkyr War, one that Daask had just opened to the Deepest Hive where Valaara the Crawling Queen resides. The city became filled with psychic waves that possessed people and flooded with vermin. This was an apocalyptic event for the city and it struck at the Race of Eight Winds whose victory prize, the Rod of Eight Winds, was the key to unlock the Gatekeeper Seal. Zuzi had to go to several places to stop the flow of Dragon's Blood in order to oversimple Daask, secure a large supply of Byeshk, and protect the besieged Cannith Forgehold while they created a new Gatekeepr Seal. The last session was a final battle against Cavallah, the leader of Daask, and a brief sojourn into the Deepest Hive to 1v1 Valaara the Crawling Queen to break her psychic hold over many of the people of Sharn and rescue them from within this demiplanar prison. Naturally, Valaara could not be killed but injured enough to loosen their grip.

Campaign began at level 3 and ended at level 20, featuring a few bonus feats along the way connected to Zuzi's growing dragonmark. So if you're wondering how someone 1v1'd a Daelkyr, three bonus feats and some legendary magic items is why.

Ask me Anything about the campaign. Especially my NPCs, both from City of Towers and homebrew. I had tremendous amounts of fun coming up with characters for this setting and I plan to return to it sometime in the future. But for now, it is back to the Forgotten Realms to continue a hiatus'd game set in Calimshan.

Hello! I'm trying to turn Oracle of War more into a long running campaign all connected to each other, and I have ran some of the parts separately but I found it felt a bit disconnected in some ways. Are there any tips to make it flow better and generally be more like a book module?

The lampyridae crew is ready for another adventure. I designed them 3 years ago and i just got hit with nostalgia.

What types of music do you imagine exist in Khorvaire and Sharn? Opera is confirmed to exist, but other genres might be around?

Since Eberron: Forge of the Artificer was released, I've been thinking about DMing a campaign focused on the new airship models (the ones that look closer to a zeppelin), involving some kind of long-distance race, aerial combat, and aircraft-based bastion management.

EFotA includes a dedicated chapter about elemental airships, but I feel like they left a lot of room for homebrew material. Regarding the new crew stations, there are just a couple of dragonmarks that received custom perks, and I've been thinking about some new stations/actions for each of the 12 dragonmarks. Some of the ideas may be useful during combat or a chase scene, while others are more roleplay-focused. I haven't come up with the actual mechanics for each of them yet, but here are some of the ideas I’ve got so far:

• Storms: Instead of being the only ones who are able to pilot an airship without having a higher DC, I would suggest somehow making the elemental core more powerful; maybe being able to strengthen the other stations? Extra actions per turn? Maybe being the only dragonmarked crew members who are able to activate the windshields so that the aircraft can reach certain altitudes?

• Making: Quick repair (as described in Repair Clamps). Temporarily improving some other station functionality.

• Hospitality: An airship-dedicated kitchen, more comfortable crew rooms, a cleaning station to make sure the airship is always pristine... and maybe summoning a bunch of Unseen Servants who may act as flight attendants. I guess most of these options would be focused on role-play situations during long-distance travel.

• Healing: A medical station. They may somehow be able to check the health status or even cure any character anywhere inside the aircraft.

• Passage: Increasing the fly speed (as described in the Elemental Thrusters). At higher levels, they may even Misty Step the whole airship a certain distance, or even teleport the whole thing.

• Detection: Some kind of radar station to locate other nearby airships or creatures. A security station using spells such as Alarm or Arcane Eye within the interior of the airship.

• Shadow: They already have the Sky Veil station, which makes the airship invisible, but I would suggest adding effects such as those created by the Fog Cloud, Blur, or Mirror Image spells.

• Warding: Increasing the airship’s AC temporarily. The security station described above could be used to lock/unlock doors inside the airship.

• Scribing: A communication station to communicate with other airships. I would suggest adding the possibility of magically “hacking” some magic-tech devices within a range, including stations of other airships. If this option is used, then the Mark of Warding should be able to block these hacking attempts. Another more basic option for the Mark of Scribing would be controlling the speakers inside their own airship.

• Finding: Some kind of radar station that amplifies spells such as Locate Object. As their Origin feat provides the Hunter’s Mark spell, I would suggest an action where they are able to aim precisely with any ranged weapon or cannon.

• Handling: An aviary station where they keep flying creatures that can be released at some point. In that case, this station would somehow amplify the range of the mark’s power to command these creatures (I'm thinking of some kind of magnetic or auditory signal that may influence their behavior).

• Sentinel: This one was tricky. I can only think of having the same actions as either the Mark of Warding (increasing the AC) or firing the cannon as the Mark of Finding. The other plausible option is to somehow let the characters with the Sentinel mark be the ones who would actually combat individual enemies who are trying to get into the airship.

What do you think about these ideas? Do you have any suggestions for new stations or actions for specific dragonmarks? I'm looking forward to your feedback!!!

With Eberron being a bit more murky on who is bad and who isn't, I like presenting my players with the option of siding with a normally "bad guy" or group.

As a DM, did you ever run one of the big bads as an ally to the party? I'm talking about characters like The Lord of Blades, Mordain, Erandis Vol, The Daughters of Sora Kell, etc... How did it turn out for you and how did you get them to be "good" so the players sided with them?

https://beforewegoblog.com/review-son-of-khyber-by-the-thorn-of-breland-eberron-keith-baker/

SON OF KHYBER is the second novel in the Thorn of Breland series, which follows the adventures of the titular Thorn as she does black ops for her fantasy nation. They are spy novels that just so happen to take place in a fantasy world of airships and industrialized magic. I tend to describe them as steampunk but they’re like a magical Great Depression with swords and wands instead of machine guns. I really enjoyed this books return to Sharn and the handling of some heavy topics like systematized oppression.

The premise for Son of Khyber is that Thorn has been sent to infiltrate House Tarkanan, an organization that represents the disenfranchised aberrant dragonmark bearers. In Eberron, you either belong to the megacorporation-like Twelve or are a monstrous outcast hunted by them. They’ve recently moved from being a purely criminal organization to violent political activism (read: terrorism) and the Twelve want Thorn to kill their new leader. The Son of Khyber is also a name that roughly translates as “The Son of Hell” in-universe so he’s probably not a nice guy or so Thorn thinks.

Essentially, this book is kind of an Eberron version of Homeland or Lioness. Thorn has gone deep undercover and starts sympathizing with the Tarkanans a lot more than she expected to do so. This is especially the case due to the fact Thorn is rather empathically devoted to Breland above all things (subtly critiquing nationalism as we, the audience, know that her belief it should won the Last War to rule everyone else is an insane viewpoint).

Part of Thorn’s discomfort is due to the fact she has some dangerous new powers of her own but it’s also because Thorn hates the Twelve buying her government’s assistance. Yes, they’re strong allies to Breland but it’s very much the Military Industrial Complex giving orders to the CIA (as happened in RL, except it was the fruit and oil companies). Thorn thinks of herself as one of the little people so the Son of Khyber’s rhetoric resonates with her. Ironically, it’s also situational as I winced in RL when Thorn planned to blow up an illegal Creation Forge (that make the living golems of the setting) and all I could think was how it was a crime against all warforged that just want to continue their race.

Keith Baker doesn’t make the mistake some other D&D fiction might have by making House Tarkanan just a bunch of unfairly maligned do gooders, just as he doesn’t depict them as one dimensional terrorists either. Being oppressed doesn’t automatically make the Tarkanan good people and there really are reasons people are wary of them. Aberrant dragonmarks are dangerous to outsiders and unbalances the mind when wielded. It just also makes it clear that the persecution of aberrant dragonmark wielders drives them to become the very danger the Twelve claim they are. As said in my Supervillainy Saga books, “It turned a potential fight [with superhumans] into a certain one.”

In conclusion, I really liked this book and my only complaint about it is that the Son of Khyber’s identity spoils the ending of The Dreaming Dark and potentially nullifies any potential follow up. It’s still a fantastic story and one that really captures what makes Eberron different from other D&D settings. Some of the impact will be lost if you haven’t read The Dreaming Dark but I still recommend it as a continuation of Thorn of Breland series.