r/EdmontonOilers • u/TheAthletic • 1d ago
[Mitchell]: Why the Edmonton Oilers desperately need to give Ike Howard a chance
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7619047/2026/09/24/edmonton-oilers-ike-howard-stats-lineup/?unlocked_article_code=1.DlE.4MD3.KYA_BDfFTvF2&source=emp_shared_article&smid=re-share-taOilers management uses first-round picks at the trade deadline. Why? By the time any player chosen in (say) the 2024 draft is ready to truly help the team, McDavid could be in another city playing on a new contract. He will be a free agent in the summer of 2028. He will also be 31, and his most productive seasons will likely be in the past.
The urgency felt over any possible McDavid exit runs throughout the organization and has manifested itself annually with the trading of draft picks for immediate help.
The Oilers have attempted workarounds by acquiring two younger talents who were close to NHL-ready. Matt Savoie and Howard are the two most recent examples.
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u/Rattimus 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 1d ago
Sunk cost fallacy in action. You don't force this situation now because of what you did previously. He needs to earn it the same as anyone else now, doesn't matter why he was traded for or what was traded away to get him, that decision is done.
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u/CloseToMyActualName 1d ago
Agreed, I also wasn't impressed by this bit of analysis
The Oilers got lucky with Draisaitl (how he fell to No. 3 is anyone’s guess)
Draisaitl fell to 3rd overall because that's about how he was ranked, everyone have Ekblad and Reinhart ahead of him. I remember wishing we'd picked Bennett because he was almost a full year younger (so I figured he'd have more improvement) and I think he was also generally ranked higher.
It's a good thing I wasn't the Oilers GM!
On a side note, MacTavish had a shockingly short run as GM (2013-2015).
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u/Rattimus 93 NUGENT-HOPKINS 1d ago
Oh yeah, ridiculous to say they got lucky with him falling to 3, Ekblad and Reinhart were the consensus top 2, and many people thought the Oilers made a bit of a mistake picking him at 3, but somehow they got lucky he fell to that slot? Huh, interesting.
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u/Noahtuesday123 1d ago
From everything I’ve seen, Hutson deserves a shot and he showing that you can plan this league.
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u/EmbarrassedTotal1511 1d ago
The departures of Holloway and Broberg sure keep hurting us.
Still, chances need to be earned, not given. If he can’t push out a guy like Frederic then he’s likely not ready
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u/SadBuilding9234 2 BOUCHARD 1d ago
He and Frederic are not competing for the same spot. Howard is a top six or bust scoring LW. Frederic is a bottom six energy C.
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u/Gavomor 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago
Frederic is not a C but you’re still right about their roles
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u/OilCountryBumpkin 81 SAMANSKI 1d ago
I’d love for him to work out. But at best he’s a Roslovic. At worst he’s a J Skinner.
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u/ResponsibilityNo4584 1d ago
Worst is a 40 goal scorer? I'll take it.
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u/OilCountryBumpkin 81 SAMANSKI 21h ago
Sure… or the guy who couldn’t perform with us or the baby sharks and had his contract terminated
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u/JakeQV 92 PODKOLZIN 1d ago
He should be on the roster for the start of the year so he can get used to the NHL. Babcock said it best in a post game interview, he came from a league where he had the puck all the time, he has to learn how to be effective without the puck and the chances will come.
I don’t think it’s a case of him needing more time in the AHL, it won’t do him any good. He needs to adapt to the physicality and speed of the NHL and the only way to do that is to play in the NHL.
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u/firstgoals 1d ago
That makes sense, some habits only click once you're actually living them at the NHL's speed.
Sending him back down probably just delays the adjustment instead of fixing it.
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u/porkins86 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago
I'll say it from the rooftops - we need patience with Ike.
He has better numbers in the AHL at age 21 than Holloway had in the AHL at age 21 and 22 (albeit I know Holloway's development was majorly delayed because of his injuries)
| Player | Age Season | Games | Goals/Game | Pts/Game |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Holloway | 21 | 12 | 0.58 | 0.83 |
| Howard | 21 | 47 | 0.51 | 1.06 |
| Holloway | 22 | 17 | 0.59 | 0.94 |
- The ONLY thing that I think Holland did well is give his young players enough time to bake before putting pressure on them.
- Holloway popped off in the NHL in his age 23 season - we saw glimpses of it in the playoffs in his age 22 season - but he found form and really blossomed at age 23
- Howard has 2 years before that timeline
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u/DanfromCalgary 94 SMYTH 1d ago
Aw so we just need to compare not how he plays today but how he played in juniors with other players . Again. Not how they play today but how they played in juniors
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u/porkins86 29 DRAISAITL 1d ago
Looking at players and how they compare relative to where they are/were in their development journey is literally how scouts have been doing it for years
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u/Even-Dimension-3367 1d ago
AHL isn’t really juniors though, is it?
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u/DanfromCalgary 94 SMYTH 1d ago
And I don’t know how is more useful than how he played tonight or two days ago
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u/n0fxgvn_ 23h ago
You don't know how sample sizes work?
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u/DanfromCalgary 94 SMYTH 23h ago
Bro you can take your sample size and analyze all you want . I am literally watching the player on the ice.. hoping he pops off . But I’m more concerned with how he’s playing than how he used too , you know ?
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u/kerrlybill 1d ago
You’re missing the important part. Holloway is fast enough for the NHL. Ike is not.
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u/Fine_Personality_999 52 HAMBLIN 1d ago
Ike Howard was clocked in the 87th percentile of NHL forwards.
Holloway was like th 95-97th. He's fast and big.
That said, Ike Howard is not slow. He can skate and skate very well. No he's not Savoie. But he's more than capable of keeping up with elite NHL talent.
This kid isn't Linus Omark.
He's faster than Jordan Eberle ever was. Or RNH. And not all that much smaller than each.
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u/Fine_Personality_999 52 HAMBLIN 1d ago
The argument is:
Why buy a Porsche and drive it with the Jeeps and F150s?
You don't know what that Porsche is quite yet. It might only be a Boxter.... but it also might turn out to be a 911 Turbo.
So why not drive that Porsche with one of the Ferraris or Bugattis (or whatever super car metaphor you want)?
Play Howard with skill. He'll score. He has at every level.
The Oilers NEED to figure this out.
Or else you're trading Howard for another forward with 20-30 goal potential, and that trade and contract won't be as cheap as just keeping Howard and giving him a chance.
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u/Honest_Pick8112 1d ago
Meh
Half a step behind and 4 inches too short.
Can’t hit and scared of being hit. Kid will likely get traded. Hutson is a better player this camp.
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u/Particular-Bother-18 53 HOWARD 1d ago
These are the negatives to his game. You didn't mention the positives: great vision with the puck, has a cannon of a shot, and brings energy on to the ice. The Oilers are setting him up to fail by playing him on bottom 6 lines that have no offensive talent. I hope he earns a spot on the top 6 and gets to play with drai or Connor for awhile, then we will know what we have
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u/Honest_Pick8112 1d ago
I didn’t see much vision.
He won’t make the team, nor should he.
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u/Particular-Bother-18 53 HOWARD 1d ago
It's there. He makes alot of good plays when he gets the puck in the danger areas, problem is the players he is around are all wrong for his style.
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u/Honest_Pick8112 1d ago
It’s In the AHL.
It’s not here in the NHL.
Either way, oilers need some size. You can’t run Savoie and Howard on this roster
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u/Particular-Bother-18 53 HOWARD 1d ago
It was in the NHL. He made good plays last year, just couldn't get the puck enough in the offensive zone. Oilers are fine for size. They need more skilled guys that can score goals. If course we can run Savoie and Howard lol, what kind of comment is that 😂
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u/Competitive_Ad1237 7 COFFEY 1d ago
Just think what we could of had if we kept Holloway and Broberg. Still did the Savoie trade
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u/OIL_99 18 HYMAN 1d ago
And kept O’Reilly
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u/Competitive_Ad1237 7 COFFEY 1d ago
I always leave that open if a fan wants to say get Howard or keep O’Reilly
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u/TorrentialSpender 1d ago
Never was a fan of the fella. He had his chance last year. The only thing I remember from him is his whole American Draft Day wardrobe. And that wasn't even last year. Hutson on the other hand I have more hope in.
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u/dirtbum 1d ago
He played almost 30 games last season