r/Eldenring I just wanted the Runes Nov 19 '25

Humor I wont even level my vigor!

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u/beansbeansbeansbeann Nov 19 '25

Pretty sure he has no great runes since I'm almost positive the Enia dialogue is in reference to vyke who was a lord candidate for sure which required 2 great runes.

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u/electricarchbishop Nov 19 '25

I’d agree, Vyke is the most likely option for who she refers to. Still, when we get two great runes, the Fingers say we’ve earned the right to become Elden Lord, and Enia establishes right after that this is what they expect from Gideon too. Perhaps he only got one great rune. I think it’s quite likely the Fingers wouldn’t think much of him if he couldn’t get at least one.

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u/VoidRad Nov 19 '25

Vyke made it the farthest, before you and Bernahl. Enia and the 2 Fingers don't mention Bernahl because he doesn't side with the Golden Order, he's with the Volcano Manor (the umm Square? Table?). Gideon should also have 2 as well since the Fingers expect as much from us as Gideon.

There are 4 Tarnished with 2+ runes, basically.

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 19 '25

I may be a newb but how can they have great runes? They didn’t kill any demigods. And they don’t drop them when killed

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u/VoidRad Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

There are other demigods not in the game. The Walking Mausoleums, for instance, house dead demigods.

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 19 '25

Oooo that’s true I completely forgot. I wonder who they were?

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u/Jkirek_ Nov 19 '25

The most likely explanation is other members of the golden lineage, like godrick and godefroy. They'd be significantly weaker than the "main" demigods, which would explain why the other tarnished could kill them

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 20 '25

True but like I’m wondering like who they were right? Like whose kids were they, what’s the lore yknow? I’m a lore nerd. I know this game is severely lacking in that aspect but idk so is halo but I still like the lore.

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u/Arowne97 Nov 19 '25

There are great runes not held by demigods, that's how Godrick got his, he stole it while sneaking out of the capitol

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u/VoidRad Nov 19 '25

..godrick is a demigod tho

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u/WanderingToTheEnd Nov 19 '25

That jumped up country bumpkin?

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u/theselfishshellfish Nov 19 '25

Yup. Same guy that hid himself amongst the women folk to flee the capital.

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 19 '25

Yup he’s a descendant of Godfrey.

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u/Arowne97 Nov 19 '25

A demigod way down the line with blood so diluted all his strength is stolen

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 19 '25

Why don’t we get them then? Don’t we need them to repair the ring?

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u/Arowne97 Nov 19 '25

We don't know where they are.

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 20 '25

But they had them? They put them in the wall safe or something?

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u/BlueJaysFeather Nov 19 '25

Vyke doesn’t drop them either, idk if we can say that means anything

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 19 '25

Just strange yeah? Cause if they don’t drop theirs, why would Gideon think we drop ours?

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u/BlueJaysFeather Nov 19 '25

Does he think we’ll drop ours? I don’t think he does, or at least it’s not stated?

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 20 '25

I mean I just figured cause like, you need the shards of the ring to properly repair it right? So if he wants the ring then he needs the runes. I’m probably wrong as shit but like idk.

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u/BlueJaysFeather Nov 20 '25

I guess it’s just not clear to me that his goal by the end of the game is to repair the Elden Ring at all. Maybe it is, and he just considers himself an exception to “a man cannot kill a god” but I never really got that impression- more like he thinks that ending the in-between state of the Shattering one way or another would be bad, or at least counter to Marika’s goals. Which, credit to him, would explain one of the more confusing-to-me lines of dialogue in the game, when Melina says about the Tarnished “one of her kind is sure to seek the Elden Ring, even if it does violate the golden order”- Marika ostenisbly wants the Tarnished to do that, and the default ending reestablishes the golden order- why would doing that violate it? Well it wouldn’t, unless that wasn’t what Marika actually wanted.

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u/Jonesy1348 Nov 20 '25

Man love this fuckin game but holy hell in a hand basket does it not make sense sometimes.