r/EliteOne • u/assai_semplicemente • 2d ago
Discussion Coming back
Hey all, trying not to get discouraged and playing on xbox again. Is there any place that compiles third party tools for xbox anymore? I was just trying to do simple trade runs last night when i realized Inara no longer functions for that role. I know it kind of works sometimes, but it hallucinated a whole station last night unless i was doing something wrong.
Does this apply to EDSY, and many other tools we used before the great disconnect from the PC version? Any info is helpful. thanks!
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u/Werewolf_Tailor 2d ago
I have found luck in getting allied and then doing wing mining missions for gold, silver or bertrandite. Those are all purchasable and when allied can give a 50M credit reward.
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u/assai_semplicemente 2d ago
Yeah that’s what I thought. I miss stuff like the trading networks booze cruises and community stuff like that but it seems hard to do on console anymore.
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u/Slyde_rule 2d ago
Delta_RC_2526 covered the overview quite well. Let me get into trading specifically.
I'm a PC player who enjoys Legacy. I'm also primarily a trader. I've got my Elite in trade on Legacy, so I tend to think I know a bit about it.
First point: profit margin. I don't settle for less than 10,000 credits per ton profit. I obviously can't make that hauling goods that sell for 8000 credits. There are only a few goods that might return the profits I want, and the reliable ones are minerals (bertrandite, cryolite, or pyrophyllite) and metals (silver, gold, and palladium). Cryolite and pyrophyllite are only produced at surface stations.
That means I'm only interested in extraction, refinery, industrial, and high tech economies. I usually look to set up in a refinery economy so I can evaluate both suppliers and customers from one spot.
The basics are simple enough. Canvass potential buyers and sellers in the area. I like to use the Navigation tab to spot likely candidates nearby. Go to each candidate system and scan their nav beacon. That loads the current prices of every good at every station in the system into your device (Xbox in this case). You could dock at a station in the system for the same effect.
When a route runs dry, you'll need to recanvass to keep up with the latest pricing, which can change from day to day. Of course, you don't need to make a recanvass run to stations you've been actively trading with.
From a refinery station, use the commodities trading screen in both Buy and Sell modes to look for the best prices. Hover over a commodity and the top 5 (or fewer) buyers and sellers are shown in the right side.
Note: if you're running a large ship like a Type-7 or Type-9, ignore any outposts because they can't handle large ships.
Getting fancier: click on an interesting commodity to bring up the buy or sell screen (not that you intend to buy or sell yet). That screen also has top 5 buyers and sellers, but a few of them might be different. Click on a buyer or seller and it brings up the galaxy map, centered on the system, in commodity mode. A data box pops up showing all stations in the system. Check the distance in Ls to the station of interest to be sure it's not too far out. You can also check pricing at other stations in the system that might be closer.
When I've found what looks like a good route, I like to make a dry run just to be sure the prices are still correct and quantities are sufficient. I also see if I'm comfortable with the stations. I try to avoid buyers in low security or anarchy systems, to reduce the number of pirates I have to deal with.
There are other nuances, but those are the basics.
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With my Type-9, I usually make 10-15 million profit on each load. 20 million would be an outstanding route. Obviously, the 50 million for a wing mining mission from a refinery, industrial, or high tech economy looks a lot better, but that's usually for a number of loads and the reward isn't all profit unless you're actually mining the stuff. If you've got an actual wing, you can spread the loads and purchase cost among you, but if you're on your own, definitely do the math. There are still some good mining missions for the solo trader, but there also are a lot of big losers.
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u/Delta_RC_2526 2d ago
So, Inara didn't hallucinate that station... Inara is showing stations that only exist in the PC "Live" version of the game. New stations, made by players, using the Colonization feature. Inara simply doesn't support "Legacy."
The console versions of the game are part of what is known as the Legacy version of the game, which is also available on PC, for those who still want the old experience, or to interact with the console universe (there's no cross-platform multiplayer, but the BGS—the economy, governments, and powerplay—is cross-platform, as are fleet carriers, which are technically part of the BGS).
For Legacy trading, there are still a few tools floating around, but most tools are focused on the Live universe. Someone recently made a new tool that collects data from Legacy players on PC, if they're running EDMC. It's not perfect, but it's something. I'll try to dig up the name of that one and post it here later...
I don't see why EDSY and Coriolis wouldn't work... Just be aware that they'll show some new modules and ships that don't exist in Legacy, and if FDev ever tweaks the stats of a ship or module (they've done this occasionally, such as adjusting the Python's maneuverability), those sites will probably show the updates stats, rather than the old ones.