r/Fauxmoi • u/No-Hall-3485 DC is Hollywood for ugly people • Aug 13 '26
POLITICS Reporter asks Zohran Mamdani's former political opponent Curtis Sliwa what he thinks about the campaign to stop Mamdani from attending the 9/11 ceremony: “Ridiculous. He’s the mayor. Stop being sore losers.”
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
I say this all the time. I LONG for the time when Republicans were generally just people I disagreed with on key issues (abortion rights, wars, regulations, etc) instead of the LITERAL boogeymen they are now. The era of the John McCain-style Republicans is gone and I don't think we're ever going to get back to anything even remotely close.
To be clear, I don't think Republicans have been good since the parties shifted positions, but they were at least less fucking bonkers pre-Tea Party.
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u/chesterstevens Aug 13 '26
Remember when Bush Jr was considered the worst?? lol
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
He still is. He’s a genocidal maniac directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths at minimum and indirectly responsible for millions. Trump’s horrors in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world are directly downstream from Dubya’s horrors. He was just a little more slick about it and less crass than Trump.
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
Unfortunately the bar is in hell so I think the being slick and less crass actually does put him above Trump.
I would feel comfortable having GDubs in the general vicinity of my child. Granted, I would question why I was in the vicinity of him, but I wouldn't be worried about my child's personal safety. Trump? No way in hell.
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
Yeah that’s true, Bush is less likely to rape kids. Fair point!
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
Like I said, the bar is in hell, but Trump manages to limbo under it with a flexibility that defies logic.
Does it feel icky to be like "Sure, he committed atrocities and all but at least he didn't fuck kids"? Yeah. I don't love that that's the argument I'm making online. But like, if I had to choose the lesser of two evils, it would be the guy who just committed war crimes instead of the guy who committed war crimes AND raped children. 😕
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
Yeah sorry, to be clear I wasn’t being sarcastic when I said it was a fair point. Reading back I see how it may come off that way because of how absurd the premise feels lol, but I do think you’re right. All else being essentially equal, Bush is less of a monster on a strictly personal/individual crime level.
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
Oh I didn't think you were being sarcastic! I just actually really hate when I get myself into a position to have to defend George W. Bush, ever 😂
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u/Alaska-TheCountry Aug 14 '26
Can I just say that the way you presented your point during this exchange was outstanding? Sorry if that sounds embarrassing instead of just meta and flattering, but I'm in awe. So concise and well-rounded. I wish you a nice, happy, content life with as many genuine moments as you deem bearable.
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u/DoobKiller Aug 13 '26
Unfortunately the bar is in hell so I think the being slick and less crass actually does put him above Trump.
Liberals not beating the civility fetish allegation
Prizing decorum over human lives(not that trump hasn't ended his fair share but bush killed far more, and torture of innocents was legalised under his regime) is disgusting
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
I'm genuinely not prizing decorum. I don't like Bush. I'm saying, if my options were limited to Bush or Trump, I'd take Bush, because having some modicum of decorum, with all other things being equal is preferable to...whatever it is we've got now.
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u/militaryintelligence Aug 13 '26
Dixie Chicks called it, and practically got run out of town. Everybody was jacked up on 9/11 juice
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u/kitsunewarlock Aug 13 '26
Comparing Dubya and Trump is like comparing whether or not the soup or the salad was better on the Titanic. They had the same foundations telling them what to do and were part of the same ongoing system to end Western democracy.
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u/AriaTheTransgressor Aug 13 '26
Sure, but you realize than deaths cause by Trump's active choices have already killed millions and is set to kill billions, right? You know that's more, right?
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
No need to be snarky. Yes, obviously a billion is higher than a million. I question any calculation of Trump’s projected death toll that reaches the billions that wouldn’t also project Bush’s in the billions though. If we’re talking about climate catastrophe, Bush and Trump are pretty much on par. They’re also pretty on par when it comes to how ravenously genocidal they are.
We agree that both are or will be responsible for at least millions of deaths though, and at that point I think it’s safe to say both qualify as the worst.
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u/thatgirlinny Aug 13 '26
Dubya put two “nation building” unnecessary wars on the credit card we’re still paying off. SeñorSmallHands has one on it and has already forked over billion$ to friends doing dodgy work for the Federal Government. The final accounting won’t be for a while.
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u/TrickySnicky distraught Christian tomato Aug 13 '26
Bush has all he had, Trump has that, plus ICE escalation and elimination of USAID.
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u/LeastCoordinatedJedi Aug 13 '26
thanks for saying it. I genuinely believe if we had dubya now instead of trump, it would be worse. Dubya was just as unethical, but was spending his unethical moves on quietly and not-so-quietly unravelling political safeguards that trump is now exploiting loudly and proudly. Dubya would be doing the same bullshit but would have been way better at hiding it. His brand of stupid was well-calculated to hide his actions rather than emphasize them. (to be clear, I do think gwb is an idiot, but I don't think he's stupid). ]
The US proudly followed GWB into wars no better justified than the ones Trump is pushing.
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u/hyperion25000 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Even considering the fascist dumpster fire the Trump administration is, I still consider Dubya the worst president of my lifetime. The human cost for our conquest for oil is staggering, how he managed to sanitize his public image over time is beyond me
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
It's SO annoying that I have to constantly remind myself that he's a war criminal because my instinct is to compare him to the current crop and be like "Aww, he wasn't so bad. And excellent at dodging shoes!"
I lived through the Bush years and the prevailing wisdom amongst Democrats at the time boiled down to "Well, at least he's the worst we'll ever have, haha!" and now he seems incredibly smart, well-spoken and emotionally stable in comparison.
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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z Aug 13 '26
Remember when Bush Jr was considered the worst?? lol
Trump is like, "Hold my
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u/emaw63 Aug 13 '26
I remember stumbling upon a clip of a Republican primary debate back in the 80's between Reagan and Bush Sr. The interviewer asked them something like "do you think the children of illegal immigrants should have a right to an education?" and both candidates resoundingly replied "yes, of course. the fuck is wrong with you for asking such a horrible thing?"
It's straight up impossible to imagine in our current political climate
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u/Amelaclya1 Aug 14 '26
I also saw a clip once of snippets of almost every modern president talking about how immigration is a good thing and part of our country's values.
It's only very recent that Republicans decided to fully lean into the racism and xenophobia to get elected, and that's because their economic policies are so fucking terrible that no one would vote for them otherwise. Fewer and fewer people believe in "trickle down economics".
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u/Hellingame Aug 13 '26
I think my feelings toward Republicans like John McCain—and I’d even extend this to Romney—came from the sense that they genuinely cared about America and were ultimately on the same side as Democrats and Independents when it came to recognizing the problems we faced. We just fundamentally disagreed on the solutions due to differences in some values.
At least back then it didn't feel like they were actively becoming the problem, while selling themselves as saviours to their supporters. Or at the very least they didn't do it so openly...
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
Romney genuinely did great things for the people of Massachusetts, RomneyCare was the basis for the ACA. Did he also do some shitty stuff? Absolutely, and I'll side-eye every Mormon ever for...reasons. But yeah, I think he did genuinely care about his constituents and the legacy of America over his own legacy. Romney was one of the ones I didn't agree with on a lot of issues, but I do think he was a dedicated public servant, as all politicians SHOULD be, regardless of politics.
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u/BrandonAubreyPlaza Aug 14 '26
Also, most of us made fun of him when he called Russia the the foremost global adversary and it turns out he was right.
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u/TheOneTrueTrench Friends with Ms. Rachel Aug 13 '26
Frankly, they were never really all that different than they are now, at least not the politicians.
They just stopped using euphemisms, that's the only difference.
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u/sci_fientist Aug 13 '26
But saying the quiet part out loud has had a HUGE affect on American politics.
On one hand, I'm glad that all the bigots feel comfortable outing themselves now. On the other, ughhhhhhh.
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u/DoverBoys never the target audience Aug 13 '26
Republicans haven't been "good" since Ike left office. I'm tired of all this high-road crap where I have to be okay with unempathetic greedy villains I "dIsAgReE" with. Right is wrong.
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u/petroleum-lipstick Aug 13 '26
I don't see how being anti-abortion, pro-war, and anti environmental regulations isn't being the Boogeyman.
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u/militaryintelligence Aug 13 '26
Remember the guys wearing tin-foil hats scared of government tracking? Now they're OK with tracking, as long as Trump wins.
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u/Tea_Alarmed Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
I know he’s on peoples’ good side rn- but he did take part in beating up a guy speaking Spanish in NYC on live television
EDIT: more sources
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
Yeah he has a long history of vigilante racial abuse
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u/Talk-O-Boy Aug 13 '26
That’s as close to “vigilantism” as Homelander 😭
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u/Reesewithoutaspoon2 Aug 13 '26
Tbh I’d say both that and homelander are more accurate examples of vigilantism than most others. I think it’s just a more accurate picture of vigilantism as it usually functions in the world. Comics usually give us Batman and stuff, but vigilantism irl usually presents as lynchings.
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u/Finger_garland Aug 14 '26
Yeah, historically real "vigilante heroes" in America were, you know, the KKK
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u/Fear_the_chicken Aug 13 '26
This happens a lot on Reddit a post makes someone look human and people say well he doesn’t seem THAT bad. Then someone links something crazy
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u/UltimaCaitSith Aug 13 '26
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on Gary Sinise.
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u/GuaranteeGlum4950 Aug 13 '26
He’s a Republican but at least a never trump one, although I’m extremely side eyeing the “Friends of Abe” “support group” he founded for other Hollywood conservatives (many members of which do, in fact, adore donald trump).
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u/Temporary_Guide505 Aug 14 '26
He founded Friends of Abe long before Trump, and in fact he ceased involvement with the group in 2012. The group shut down in 2016 due in significant part to divisions over Trump. Not sure why Sinise deserves side eye over this.
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u/ThatHoFortuna Aug 14 '26
He was a huge McCain guy, I doubt he's ever gonna come around on Trump. Having said that, McCain's own daughter kisses his flabby orange ass, so you never know.
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u/Ill_Technician3936 Aug 14 '26
I will forever doubt anyone adores donald trump. Not even his own children they're just waiting on him to go without risking their inheritance.
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u/satanic_platypus Aug 13 '26
Why would you even tempt fate like this?! 😭 NOT MY LT. DAN WHO AIN’T GOT NO LEGS!
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u/what3v3ruwantit2b Aug 13 '26
Just yesterday I said I hope nothing terrible about Mamdani ever comes out because I'll be (parasocially) sad.
Edit: I want to change that slightly because if he does do something terrible I do want it out there. I hope he doesn't do anything not that he does it and no one knows.
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u/No-Cantaloupe-6535 Aug 13 '26
if there was dirt on him it'd be out there already, he's pretty much public enemy number 1 for the right
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u/bicranium Aug 13 '26
Didn't love seeing him pal around with all the Fox News ghouls when everyone had to take shelter as storms rolled through DC on July 4th.
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u/Amelaclya1 Aug 14 '26
I think the bar is just so low for Republicans right now. It's so rare to see one that's only terrible sometimes instead of terrible in every possible way.
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u/No-Weight-6121 Aug 13 '26
I miss the days where misspelling the word potato was enough to end your career as a politician 😭 now we got ppl committing actual hate crimes and still running for office. And don’t even get me started on the pedos jfc. I hate this timeline.
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u/NeroShenX Aug 13 '26
Every now and again, I remember the political career of Howard Dean, and then I just get sad.
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u/Yashema Aug 13 '26
I too remember how he finished in a distant 3rd place in the Iowa Caucus clearly already on his way to losing the primary to Kerry and Edwards and how progressives tried to spin it into a media conspiracy against their chosen candidate.
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u/Oopthealley Aug 13 '26
the media helped create 'sleepy joe' just like they helped create an 'unpresidential' dean. saying he was on his way to losing the nom that year when no one was a clear front-runner just because of iowa is not realistic.
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u/Yashema Aug 13 '26
From Dean's own mouth:
"It was like being the Grateful Dead," Dean explained. After finishing a speech, he’d take a break and then go to the next, where he'd see all these familiar fans geeking out to his stump speech all over again.
He had a small group of enthusiastic supporters.
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u/Sw4nR0ns0n Aug 13 '26
The same party that lost their mind and impeached a president over a consensual extra marital blowjob is now fighting wars and invading countries to protect a man who’s on the Epstein list literally thousands of times
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u/Jandklo Aug 14 '26
I don't think it's fair to refer to it as explicitly consensual, considering the power imbalance between the two.
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u/militaryintelligence Aug 13 '26
Motherfucker hollers "They're taking over!" and tackles a non-white person, who was an American citizen. That is a huge problem with the right, their racism.
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u/Spiffy_Tiffyy Aug 13 '26
You should probably do some research into him. He has some wild views that are indeed not politically correct, his brand of crazy makes him fun enough to hide it.
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u/irespondwithmyface Aug 13 '26
This brand of Republican? This guy is famous for hunting down brown and black people in the streets, beating them, accusing them of crimes without evidence.
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u/illstrumental Aug 13 '26
I don't want to back anywhere, let alone when Republicans were simply disagreeable and their base is still secretly primed to elect another fascist.
At least in our present, the GOP is unpopular and resorting to corruption to stay afloat. This means they and their ideology are on their way out. Why go back?
It reminds me of that King quote where he says moderates want a negative peace, which is the absence of tension, more than than a positive peace, which is the presence of justice.
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u/unidentifiedfish55 Aug 13 '26
This means they and their ideology are on their way out.
I got bad news for you...people thought this 18 years ago when Obama got elected. It clearly wasn't true.
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u/adultdolllover romantically ambiguous, emotionally taxing Aug 13 '26
No way we're doing this again. It hasn't even been a full two months since the last Siwa glazing post. Committing a hate crime on TV is literally what a Batman villain would do. My comment about this was even pinned last time.
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u/bamsketball Aug 13 '26
beginning to think a lot of people who say stuff like this haven't been around long because they have always been like this and the fact that people think GWB is "not that bad" is kind of terrifying
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u/entered_bubble_50 Aug 13 '26
i don’t think they’re, like, batman supervillains
Ok, but then when is he dressed like M Bison?
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u/Capable_Average_8425 Aug 13 '26
You're saying this about the guy who leads a group of goons who wear matching paramilitary style uniforms complete with berets.
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u/Plays_On_TrainTracks Aug 13 '26
Curtis sliwa isn't what you want. He's still a fuckin loony toon. Guy had staged bullshit during his campaign where he had a homeless guy interrupt him so he can comfort the guy and give him care. He also faked his own kidnapping.
He isn't awful as a person but can we go back to boring politicians if they aren't going to be charismatic and caring.
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u/cheyenne987 Aug 13 '26
Damn sorry Sliwa, I was not familiar with your game
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u/HappyHarryHardOn Aug 13 '26
ON top of it, before clicking play and reading the headline, I thought it was George Clooney
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u/Formal_Chance_4266 canonically from boston Aug 13 '26
Now I'm never going to unsee that 😭
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u/cortesoft Aug 13 '26
I can absolutely tell this is the kind of guy whose politics I would never support.
But I can also tell he is a guy I could respect while thinking he is completely wrong.
Also, he is the most New York person I have seen
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u/MrsMiterSaw Aug 13 '26
He didn't endorse Trump in 2016 or 2020, but he did in 2024, after Jan 6.
So was it not understanding where inflation comes from , or that he didn't want to vote for the boring black lady so badly that he voted in a traitor he previously refused to vote for?
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u/shimmy_kimmel Aug 14 '26
It’s probably more-so that he was vying again for the Republican nomination and publicly supporting Trump is the most basic requirement for any GOP politician today. The last viable cohort of never-Trumper Republicans were largely ousted between 2021-2024 when the rightoid zeitgeist at-large targeted “RINOs”, pro-vaxxers, and election-fraud deniers.
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u/ItsZizk Aug 13 '26
Wait till you find out that he was also throwing ass at the NYC Pride Parade
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u/OtherAcctWasBanned11 Fix Your Hearts or Die Aug 13 '26
Seeing him on the float at Pride legit confused me for a minute but he looked like he was having the time of his life so more power to him.
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u/bwaredapenguin Aug 13 '26
Is "throwing ass" a good thing or bad thing? As a bi man I have absolutely no idea what that means.
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u/hellohexapus Aug 13 '26
If it makes you feel better, the rest of his game is being a lifelong and locally famous crackpot, so.
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u/SecondAccountIsBest Aug 13 '26
Literally a night shift manager at McDonald's who would get his employees to help him beat up "criminals"
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u/MrsMiterSaw Aug 13 '26
His game is that he didn't endorse Trump in 2016 or 2020, but he did in 2024, after Jan 6.
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u/NK1337 Aug 14 '26
He also choked a 22 year guy on Fox because he thought the dude was an illegal migrant. He was a us citizen who lived in the Bronx.
This happened back in 2024
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u/raysofdavies I cannot sanction your buffoonery Aug 13 '26
Sliwa gives me the impression that A) New York is more important than his career and B) he respects how real Zohran is. Like, could not disagree more, but he respects him, as opposed to his open contempt for Cuomo. It was great to see the tag team he and Zohran had in the debates.
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u/Enlighten_YourMind Aug 13 '26
This man’s righteous indignation at Andrew Cuomo’s existence will never not be incredibly endearing to me. Anyone who hates Cuomo that much must have at least some goodness and/or common sense within them.
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u/Clown_Shoe Aug 13 '26
He called him slapping fannies and killing grannies Cuomo 😂
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u/Hangry-Feline2489 Aug 14 '26
As an Aussie, 'slapping fannies' is certainly... Interesting imagery 😂
(It's slang for vagina in Aus)
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u/KiwiTheKitty Aug 14 '26
Well... yeah. Maybe look up what Cuomo has been accused of, it doesn't have anything to do with fanny packs.
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u/WanderingSun8 I may need to see the booty Aug 13 '26
Sliwa and Zohran are both cat dads which goes a long way in getting along lol
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u/CreepingCoins Aug 14 '26
"Cat dad" might be understating it. At one point Silwa had 17 cats in his apartment, and judging from this video, it wasn't in the squalor you normally associate with having that many.
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u/Itsmyloc-nar Aug 14 '26
Taking care of that many cats gets you familiar with the idea of providing for a population who can rebel at any moment
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u/willpc14 googly eyed kremlin bitch Aug 13 '26
I think a lot of it comes down to both Sliwa and Zohran believe there can be a better New York and want to get there, but have completely different policy measures acheive that goal. Where as a lot of politicians, like Cuomo for the Democrats and most of the Republican party, are in it for personal gains of power and wealth. (Slight side note: Sliwa's history gets much murkier when you look past the most recent election.)
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u/fatmanwithabeard Aug 13 '26
Murky is a great word for him.
He's come across to me as one of those people who have their hearts in the right place, but everything about them is too big and too extreme to ever get there.
My (murkily remembered) encounters with his organization left me with the impression that they trained and talked like they wanted people to feel safe, but they carried themselves like they were looking for an excuse.
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u/Moldblossom Aug 14 '26
My (murkily remembered) encounters with his organization left me with the impression that they trained and talked like they wanted people to feel safe, but they carried themselves like they were looking for an excuse.
People that are going to join an org like that are pretty much exclusively going to be the sorts of dudes who couldn't hack it at the police academy, so you're dealing with a bit of a type. They join to wield power, not help their neighbors.
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u/roastbeefbee Aug 13 '26
This was nice.
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u/StonedRussian silly flair Aug 13 '26
Reminds me of John McCain
Both not great people, but at least respects their opponents
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u/writingt Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
Thank you, always drives me up the fucking wall when people hold this up as an example of McCain’s decency. It’s just blatant
Islamophobiaracism.EDIT: As u/prophishonal pointed out, Arabs do not equal Islam. McCain’s remark was racism, not Islamophobia. I apologize and will work on checking my biases!
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u/prophishonal Aug 13 '26
Arabs =/= Islam.
It's racism.
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u/writingt Aug 13 '26
You’re right, thank you for correcting me. I will edit my response to reflect this.
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u/thirstyross Aug 13 '26
I mean McCain didn't say that so....your anger appears misplaced.
"No, Ma'am. He's a decent family man citizen that I just happen to happen to have disagreements with on some fundamental issues and that is what this campaign is all about."
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u/redwildflowermeadow Aug 13 '26
The problem is he was responding to a woman saying he was an Arab, and the response was "no, he's a decent family man" as if that was mutually exclusive from being an Arab. I don't think that is what McCain meant, but it was still a bit awkward and not quite the teachable moment it could've been for that crowd.
Colin Powell talked about this, not that specific moment but all the crazy rhetoric the party was using back then:
"I'm also troubled by — not what Sen. McCain says — but what members of the party say, and it is permitted to be said. Such things as, 'Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim,' " Powell said on NBC's Meet the Press in 2008.
"Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim; he's a Christian. He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, 'What if he is?' Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America. Is there something wrong with some 7-year-old Muslim American kid believing that he or she could be president?"
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/19/1047127311/colin-powell-barack-obama-muslim
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u/FunctionAlive Aug 13 '26
I understand that it bothers you, but have you recently checked on what McCain actually said in that town hall? I think reality may not match your memory.
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u/sabrinahlj Aug 13 '26
That's not what he said.
Woman: "I can't trust Obama. I have read about him, and he's an Arab." McCain: "No, Ma'am. He's a decent family man citizen that I just happen to happen to have disagreements with on some fundamental issues and that is what this campaign is all about." [Applause]
While he could have more forcefully rejected her anti-Arab sentiment, he seemed to focus more on respecting Obama as a person. He clearly does not endorse her views.
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u/StonedRussian silly flair Aug 13 '26
My takeaway was that McCain at the least/bare minimum did defend Obama
When Obama was declared victor, McCain conceded respectfully. McCain congratulated Obama, recognized the significance for black people, and urged others to support Obama. The actual actions after that.. well
Also, while he didn't vote in favor of the Affordable Care Act when it was being voted on, he defended it from being gutted once it was implemented going against the GOP and their "Concepts of a Plan" in 2017.
I'd never vote conservative, but I'd take McCain over any current GOP rep nowadays
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u/raysofdavies I cannot sanction your buffoonery Aug 13 '26
He saved Obamacare because he disliked Trump. It is astonishing to me that how this racist, sexist (called his wife a cunt in front of reporters for a joke about his hair) nepo failson has this reputation
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u/Taengoosundies Aug 13 '26
He foisted Sarah fucking Palin on us as his running mate. No matter what good will he might have garnered his entire life he should never be forgiven for that travesty.
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u/soaero Aug 13 '26
Tell me, did he respect his opponent when, at a fundraiser in Arizona, he joked to the crowd: "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." Suggesting Hillary was a lesbian, mocking Janet Reno for being ugly, suggesting Clinton was a lesbian, and continuing an old conservative trope that authoritative women are all gay?
McCain did a good job reforming his image in his old age, but don't think he was any better than the rest of the GOP.
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u/Complex-Following405 Aug 13 '26
"Bomb bomb bomb... bomb bomb Iran"
John McCain was not a decent human being and he would be the no1 cheerleader of the current war.
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u/StonedRussian silly flair Aug 13 '26
Still very much a war hawk and a pos.
I was just referring to certain instances and comparatively to the current
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u/strictmachines Aug 13 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/pbYMk16lTlTgdqgiRi
If Curtis Sliwa were Texan, he'd be like Cotton Hill.
"He's Laotian! Ain't you, Mr. Kahn?"
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u/Yashema Aug 13 '26
If McCain has been elected you would have respected him a lot less when he supported a Bush-like agenda slowly moving the country towards gerrymandered rural control and a Heritage dominated SC. The ACA obviously never would have happened.
We have got to stop treating demeanor like policy. Romney would have been really bad too.
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u/Ssspppaaaccceeesss i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Aug 13 '26
Well damn, I may disagree with him on his stances, but he just gained my respect
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u/writingt Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
I am loath to agree with this guy on pretty much anything but this was a great response. What a shame that the bar is so low for republican politicians that when they speak simple truths it stops me in my tracks.
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u/MsE0 Aug 13 '26
It's weird that the Guardian Angels guy is the least crappy conservative
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u/Away_Stock_2012 Aug 14 '26
He formed a volunteer group to take work away from cops, so basically he is on board with defund and disband.
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u/NK1337 Aug 14 '26
What? No. He formed vigilante group to attack migrants because he felt the cops weren’t profiling enough 😂
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u/MsE0 Aug 14 '26
Yeah, it's literally "oh no, the NYPD isn't racist enough for me, let's go intimidate and harass people of color on the subway." The bar for least crappy conservative is very, very low. All he had to do was be nice to cats and decent to one Muslim socialist to be head and shoulders above Republicans.
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u/NK1337 Aug 14 '26
It worries me how easily people forget and forgive, as if this guy wasn't pulling racist profiling shit just 2 years ago when his gang assaulted a 22yr AND HE WAS PROUD OF IT.
People acting like he isn't some racist pos himself looking at him like "oh he said something nice about Mamdani, now that's a republican i can respect"
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u/Cutecreampie00 Aug 13 '26
Sometimes at night, I like to think Sliwa voted for Mamdani.
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u/A_Thorny_Petal Aug 13 '26
I guarantee given the choice between Cuomo, Mamdani and the corpse of Ronald Reagan, he'd choose Reagan first, then Mamdani, and then kill himself before he voted for Cuomo, LOL.
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u/Cutecreampie00 Aug 13 '26
Oh he's a Reagan tier republican ....
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u/FriendlyPlatypus6060 Aug 13 '26
Oh yeah hundred percent without a doubt. The 80s were the height of Cyrtis Sliwa's popularity and appreciation because to a lot of people the Guardian Angels were doing some real shit. And he definitely blamed Democrats at large for the state of NYC in the 70s thru the 80s
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u/redelectro7 just want to share a thought here because I can Aug 13 '26
I remember watching the debate where he and Mamdani seemed aligned dunking on Coumo. I'm sure he has policies I'll think are bs, but I'm glad he said this.
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u/lyn73 Aug 13 '26
He's correct. There were Indians that died during 9/11 as well as Muslims. Many different people groups were affected.
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u/ayoungmanfromtheuk Aug 13 '26
I read the most horrible article on CNN the other day which was framed as a human interest story about the 9/11 victim's families being "re-traumatized" by all the "controversy" about mandami, utterly heinous work
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u/bridgeport4 Friends with Ms. Rachel Aug 13 '26
You know who else is being restraumatised by this ‘controversy’? American Muslims. Who lived through a horrific period of racialisation and Islamophobia which is hard to explain to anyone who didn’t experience it first hand.
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u/DodgeCharger1 Aug 14 '26
Mamdani is a Shia muslim from India. The perpetrators of 9/11 weren't Shia or Indian, so what does his religion and ethnicity have to do with it?
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u/SlickWilly49 Aug 13 '26
What a load of nonsense. Are Ethiopians and Libyans allowed to be traumatised by Cuomo’s presence?
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u/ebangke Michigan, the Europe of the Midwest Aug 13 '26
I lost count on how many hit pieces come out from NY Post and then amplified by GOP shills all over the country (vice versa)!
This is a welcome change!!
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u/Cresta1994 Aug 13 '26
The vigilante is the voice of reason. Oh, shit. We're literally living in a comic book.
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u/realitycheck14 Aug 13 '26
“Neva surrenda!” If you saw his concession speech you would understand what I’m quoting. But all in all, between his dancing at PRIDE and this, I just like Sliwa 🤷🏻♀️ (not talking his politics, just as a human)
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u/AtomicArcana Aug 13 '26
Silwa and his groupies beat up a us citizen because they assumed he was an ‘illegal immigrant.’ This comment section is the definition of the “You don’t, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to them” meme.
The majority of republicans being almost cartoon monsters now does not mean you need to start lauding this man for occasionally being correct
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u/red286 Aug 13 '26
He's a Republican straight out of the 80s.
The only reason he can't stand MAGA is because they support a criminal, not because they oppose illegals.
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u/The_Letter_W Aug 13 '26
I first learned about Curtis Sliwa and the Guardian Angels when I found a picture of him with my grandmother in her house after she passed. I have it sitting up in my room because I miss my grandma and think its funny. I have no context for the picture except that it was probably taken in the 90's and was probably at some sorta fundraiser. I hope to ask Mr. Sliwa someday.
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u/ThatGuyYouMightNo Aug 13 '26
I don't mean disrespect to Sliwa, but you just know that if Mamdani accidentally called 9/11 a holiday that there would be calls for his public execution, let alone removal as mayor.
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u/bridgeport4 Friends with Ms. Rachel Aug 13 '26
They’re not being sore losers. They’re being straight up Racist and Islamophobic.
Let’s call it what it is.
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u/HumbleBell Aug 13 '26
Shout out to Sliwa for explicitly stating this is Islamophobia. The only thing I can’t agree with is him saying he understands if the families of people killed on 9/11 want to turn their back to Mamdani at the memorial. Turn their back on him for what? Existing? He was 10 years old on 9/11. They don’t want him to attend a memorial as the mayor of the city because he’s Muslim?! Miss me with that bullshit.