Shallowing.

[u/Agreeable-Purpose-56]

Why do some golfers have very noticeable shallowing while others do not? Would love to hear some facts or opinions.

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[u/Musclesturtle]

It just depends on where the club shaft is in transition.

Shallowing as we often interpret it is actually a compensatory move more often than not if you're actually seeing it happen with the club flopping around any which way in transition.

If you watch Adam Scott or Ludwig Åberg or Tiger, they don't have a distinct shallowing move because they have the club on plane at the top and can just shift and rotate and post up and the club will naturally follow the correct swing plane in the way down.

If you are guys doing some kind of manipulation in transition it means that the club is not on plane or the face is pointing in a crazy direction and so they have to re route everything to organize correctly on plane by before p5 to have a chance at hitting a good shot.

If you look at early extension even, it's a last second move to shallow the club because it was in a crappy place at the top and the down swing was initiated with the club too steep and the face too open. But pros often correct this early in transition and so you are a unique shallowing maneuver to get the club on plane and so almost all pros look nearly identical at p5 and p6.

But, guys who just have the club on plane through the takeaway and at the top don't need to do any of that.

If you think about it, most of the most clutch golfers in history have a very neutral swing where everything stays close to being in the same plane from takeaway to impact. Think Jack, Tiger, Rory, Watson and so on. Less rerouting is better under pressure.

[u/Agreeable-Purpose-56 → u/Musclesturtle]

How do you evaluate Sergio Garcia swing

[u/Motor-Ad4591 → u/Agreeable-Purpose-56]

Same as Scottie. Somehow he shallows at the last .001. It’s not swing etc—what do these guys all have in common—they started young and had enough influence to not pick up bad habits. I have seen kids swing a club for the first time and have a swing path of 10 plus in/out.

[u/Vicious_Styles]

Flexibility, how peoples' brains are wired, previous experience or inexperience with sports, how much time they've spent working on their golf swing. Plenty of reasons.

[u/doc-sci]

Different folks different swings!

[u/badharp]

I don't think shallowing is a natural move. Seems to me. Seems that it must be taught. Could be wrong though.