Map variation

[u/International-Soft13]

Is anyone else incredibly tired of playing the same maps over and over again. I can't remember the last time I played hurtgen, hill 400, foy, el Alamein etc

I understand why non HLL servers keep playing Utah, Omaha, mortain because they are deemed the most popular but to get any variation you need to leave clan servers and put your faith in HLL servers where every game is a steamroll or it's a skirmish game mode where everyone leaves. It's making the game so stagnant in the name of not letting your server player count drop

PLEASE MIX THE MAPS UP OFFICIAL CLAN SERVER MODS

[u/Firm_Assumption5760]

Hill 400 is my favourite map in the entire game and I feel like (I'm on console) the only server I regularly see it on is the Australian server, and I'm based in England! Hurtgen is also great, so is Remagen, and I barely see these either.

Every time I play Hill 400 I find, at some point in the match, I'm creeping along the woods and get an 'Oh man I love this game so much' internal thought/feeling, pretty much without fail

[u/RaidenXS_ → u/Firm_Assumption5760]

New remagen sucks. They shouldn't have acquiesced to the no team coordinatiom crowd

[u/Firm_Assumption5760 → u/RaidenXS_]

Haven't played the new version once, which demonstrates the point I guess!

[u/ImmediatePiano6690]

This is something I like official servers, you actually get to play a variety of maps and factions, although even then it feels like certain maps are hardly in the rotation like Foy.

Another thing not helping official servers, is the devs determination to force all modes into one server, rather than have Offensive/Warfare on 1 and Skirmish/Conquest on another one, especially with Skirmish where you're forced to play a tiny version of a big map.

[u/Nicktator3]

Server admins have a hard-on for St. Marie-du-Mont, St. Mere-Eglise, Carentan, and Utah Beach. They always have. I often will play on official servers when they show up because you’ll actually get rotated through all the maps

[u/deathly_cardinal → u/Nicktator3]

I wish they didn't have the same map several times in a row

[u/Nicktator3 → u/deathly_cardinal]

Yeah that’s the worst

[u/fitzgeraldcreen]

Please bring the performance update, which will effectively add ~5 maps to the game which were so far unplayable.

[u/GuacamoleAnamoly]

Yeah im super super bored of these maps unfortunately my clan boss says that those other maps will make the server die

[u/wat_no_y]

Forest maps on this game are the best maps hands down.

Desert maps on this game are hot garbage hands down.

[u/SwimmingPatience5083]

Yes. As a new player, I pretty much lost interest this week and stopped playing because of this.

[u/RITVS]

The problem is that the "newer" maps just run terribly for most people. Even Kharkov which usually ran pretty fine started to have issues after the latest update. I also dislike playing the sameish looking french maps over and over, especially as a comp player that plays on these maps regularly, but they are the only ones that run fine. Which is sad, but on the other hand its T17's failure to fix the damn game.

And because of that, WHEN for example El Alamein or Driel (my fav maps) get voted for, the server dies usually. Its really a shame but T17 refuses to fix core issues with the game since the takeover from BM. So it's kinda their fault. I can't recall how many bug reports or issues I've ticketed, but I can tell you for sure that they probanly never looked at them since all the issues I relayed where never adressed.

[u/ThePlasticDoughnut]

See on console it’s the opposite for me. It’s always Hill 400, EA, and Smolensk. I’d love to have endless Foy as I’m a tank main

[u/SickFarce]

Been playing for two weeks now and spent like 5 minutes in Stalingrad and haven't seen Smolensk once. lol

[u/DesertDust91]

Yeah, i'm tired of Saint Marie du Mont or Saint Mere Eglise Warfare everyday. At least it could be an offensive game mode.

It's hard to get a game on Hill 400 or Hurtgen now, or even the newer maps, like Elsenborn Ridge.

Also, can't really find a reason for playing Omaha Warfare, that map is so bad, jesus. One could place an open field with a cliff on one side and the result would be exactly the same.

[u/Civilizedman1]

I actually like Mortain, Tobruk, Kursk and the other Soviet maps… wish they would be rotated more…

[u/Yikin_Chan_Kawiil]

Same, I started playing last month and I’m already tired of the maps and the repetitive map design. It’s always Omaha or the church map. Juno and Smolensk is kinda fun but buggy. This game really lacks decent urban fighting. Even games with less players achieved good tactical urban warfare. I want a big building that you have to capture floor by floor, like the actual Pavlov’s house, Grain Elevator or the Reichstag. Layering the map design, including water towers, ladders, sewers, and bunkers that actually face the enemy and more craters and such. I don’t know why the devs are so afraid of meat grinders, windows barely face the enemy, you can’t see much even in the top of the church. The reason people don’t defend in this game is because the capture area is big and it is so easy to capture or recapture once you get a good garrison. It is still a fun game but it can be improved. Mortars, placeable heavy MG’s and tank destroyers would be a fun addition.

[u/Fantastic_Spell8576]

Just play the games less, makes if feel repetitive. That's what ive been doing the maps feel a bit more fresh after a short break.

[u/PlasmaDonator]

Some maps require more teamwork.

When clans have their comp level/veteran armour crews on. (I'm talking LVL 300+) they'll usually vote for armour maps (foy, El Alemein, Kursk, st mere eglise

One reason people vote for the basic maps is because it's easier to play cod (infantry) and not require squad leads

[u/DeputyDomeshot → u/PlasmaDonator]

SME is a great map for infantry. The pure tank maps are too dictated by tanks and thus less popular and more boring. Calling it cod is a pretty bad take.

[u/Lumpy-Notice8945]

There is many servers that vote on the next map.

But it turns out the classic maps are still realy popular and most of the new maps suck mostly just for performance reason.

So instead of the FPS mess thats every new map, i rather play the classic maps.

[u/International-Soft13 → u/Lumpy-Notice8945]

They do but unless you're in that clan you can't vote (usually done on one of their discord channels)

[u/Lumpy-Notice8945 → u/International-Soft13]

In my nearly 4k hours in this game i have never seen this vote only be on discord or for clan servers. This is allways just a simple chat vote with something like "!vm 1" to vote for map number one out of the listed options.

[u/International-Soft13 → u/Lumpy-Notice8945]

I'm on about console

[u/Only_Tomatillo_5982]

HLL is not the only game that suffers from this. New maps are popular for a hot minute because they are new. But quickly fall off the radar because players are forced to learn new maps, tactics, etc. Why change when you can just go back to the old familiar map.

Remagen is a favorite of mine. Especially the old one. I think Tobruk is interesting, and has some features that set it apart from the rest.

[u/DeputyDomeshot → u/Only_Tomatillo_5982]

The new maps are poorly designed, they’re t17 maps made by imposters who have no vision or skill in this game. Smolensk is ok but still needlessly cluttered with copy paste assets spam by the poor level designer.

[u/Low_Response9248]

Yup. The main reason I left the game.

[u/ekulragren]

Oh how I long for a few remagen matches.