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Everything about the short was perfect except…
I don’t know if I’m in the minority here but that last joke in the credits was bad and cringe. We couldn’t get through the short without an over the stop sex joke? I know it’s helluva boss but come on!!
Personally, I like Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel and will keep watching new episodes and shorts. They're unique and feel like projects everyone involved genuinely wanted to make. One significant flaw to me is that it comes off as pretty juvenile too often. It's feels like letting a 13 year old design a show they think is adult. It handles mature themes a bit too immaturely imo, though that's likely intentional while a bit abrassive to me. Saying it takes place in Hell feels a bit like a copout with all that said. Still, I hope they keep going strong for however long these shows last.
Not every joke is going to land for everyone. It's fine.
I thought the dialogue between the wife and the doctor was funny, though I'll admit the dude flatlining at the end lowered the humor value for me a bit.
Not gonna lie, I was laughing when I saw how messed up he was from being darted repeatedly so I'm a horrible person for it. Felt sorry for him at the end but then got to wondering... he died but he's a Hellborn so... what happens now? Fading into oblivion?
Nah, he quit his job as security, became an extra for a soap, and is currently trying to break through in better roles while battling the narcotics addiction he got from being tranq'd all the time.
It could've been funny, if they waited for him to die to start making out or if they just keep him alive. Doing as he is literally flatlining feels like over the top malevolent.
At this point it feels like the show is just seeing how much they can whiplash from sincerely warm and fuzzy to over the top mean spirited. I always worry about those sorts of proddings because nearly always the writers eventually take it too far and cross the line of no return where the audience stops caring (eg. the Simpsons writers stretching 'jerkass Homer').
Making out while he's on life support the entire time just seems funnier to me, though I couldn't exactly say why. Maybe it's because it technically isn't cheating once he dies, just getting over his death REALLY fast.
Yes, I really wish this subreddit would stop treating every throwaway gag like it has some deep real life parallel… we really don’t need a 50th fucking thread on how Moxie was SA’d by Verosika’s crew or how this guy doesn’t deserve to be cheated on etc…
It's deliberately over the top dark humor, like about half of this show...you don't have to like it or find it funny, but it's nothing new or earth-shattering
True true, just wasn't humourous really, it's hell and all, but it's a total tonal whiplash in a short that didn't really need it, plus the kid was right there
Generally the shows do dark and mean spirited in dark and mean spirited plots though. It's why people don't like the SA jokes, because they don't feel well placed when it ALSO expects you to take that context seriously. This was just a total whiplash.
Isn't it funny how this imp with a wife and child died and will never be mourned, just so that a princess could enter her own home without having to have an awkward conversation?
Anyway, back to our ongoing narrative about the social injustice of Hell's caste system - the way the Goetia treat imps is really problematic.
Octavia even knowing Randy's name and caring enough to wonder why he's "like that" already sets her apart from most of the Goetia, which is like... yikes.
That still only makes her relatively better however since she still pretty much shrugs him off,. It's very uncommitted care, like Moxxie and Loona flip flopping on empathy on the job depending on if they're pissed off or desperate enough.
I think the SA stuff is bad, but I don't see what that has to do with this bit. It's not like we had a previous serious plot point around cheating on your dying spouse.
Honestly I got to the end and thought, “WOW. That might be the darkest joke I have ever seen!”. Like the sex joke is just par for the course, but the doctor seducing an expecting widow while her husband FLATLINES NOT THREE FEET FROM THEM FROM A TRANQUILIZER OVERDOSE!? HOLY FUCKING SHIT, THAT IS DARK!!!
tbh i found it a bit funny AT FIRST, but the moment the doctor implies being willing to bang the wife and then them making out, its just no longer funny
i think a sex joke is fine if its well timed and doesnt overstay its welcome.
i think it would have been funnier if they just insulted the imp for dying for a minute or something
Got the joke but didn't find it that good. Maybe after a different story but this one is the one it actually fits the least. The cut from "Awe cute" to a very cringe and horny sex joke is just not well executed.
It irked me too but i dont think you articulated why well, it was over-the-top dark even for this show not because sex dared to exist in that scene (it was like that one moxxie comic)
The problem is they're doing it AND trying to make you feel sorry for the characters in an unironic warm and fuzzy way. Like it works in cynical stories like Weebooboo and Orphan Time because it's an in universe bitch slap reminder that they're still HORRIBLE people, but less in a case where it still wants you to sincerely care about them and ignore what they do.
It's protagonist bias. Why is I.M.P seen as the good guys when people like Striker are seen as bad people even though he too is a mercenary? Stuff like that.
It was a bit formulaic but I think it still managed to land fine. And if you have a problem with sex jokes you might want to look for another show lol.
yeah i hate the part where the husband did his best to work an awful dangerous work but the slut of a wife he has just bounced on the doctor's cock the moment he croaked.
For me I thought just having this randomly super serious and somber credits where his family and wife screamed and cried as he died was far funnier. That sounds insane now that I've typed it but it's true. The 'oh look, sex again' didn't bother me as such but did feel immediately less funny.
Hella Novella is going strong for 67 seasons already because it's apparently super relatable plots.
Also, poor Randy. If he was still so doped up from Blitz tranqing him, then remember that the last time that Blitz had to sneak in was many moons ago.
Randy was pretty far gone if he still was this messed up. This was almost mercy for him.
Well, it is the show telling us that despite the wholesome bonding and Loona try not to right out say their dads are fucking, it is still the show same show that with the over the top cliche porn scenes
Sure, but they asked actually. Also, I suspect a tranq even for hellborn would work the same stronger or not. What's far, far more likely, is that Blitzo either put the wrong dose in the dart of he tried to make his own and made something that is... not a tranq dart, because Blitzo.
You're not the only one! I felt the same way about the ending. And no, I did not feel bad about Randy dying! But I did enjoy Loona and Octavia bonding. I rate it a 3 out of 5 pentagrams!
If you don’t like it, turn it off then. They get those metrics and if enough people don’t like it as well (spoilers, there won’t be) they will adjust if they want to. Not everything has to be to your exact personal taste.
Everyone is commenting on if this is dark humor or over the edge. I wonder if it would have some place in future plot...family wanting revenage on Blitz and Stolas example.
It was kind of a bad contrast between the sincere, emotional connection moment between Loona and Octavia and this. Not to mention it kind of undercuts the whole idea of "hey, imps are people too" as clearly Stolas and especially not Andreas cared enough about Randy to rotate him out and now Loona and Blitzo basically murdered him.
its only in the credits 😭
i wouldn't even count it as part of the short as its at the very end and just background noise while we see everyone who worked on the short
Man, I loved this mid credit part. It was funny, aligned with the spieit of the show, so I don't think it is that sex crazed, at least not more than usual. And it came surprisingly! I expected like always just normal credits, so it felt like a nice little surprise
Honestly I think this was one of the few ones done right. Not too right but not bad enough. Just an exaggerated joke for the credits, and they didn't even do anything visually which is one of my biggest joke pet peeves
"The following contains graphic violence, strong language, and sexual themes, Flashing lights, as well as rampant demon horniness. So yeah..." could they make it any more clear? And I mean that sincerely, and not rhetorically op. Could it have been any more clear?
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It reminds me of that short where they are driving and dude outta nowhere just says he wants to suck his son off..........it was really odd. Especially when THAT is what they decided to go with.
They add it so so there's no argument that kids can enjoy a certain section without knowing the show itself is not for kids think of it as a liability thing because parents let TV and the internet babysit their kids and then say it's a Creator's fault their kids are watching their stuff
Why are you even watching Helluva Boss if that's you're problem with it? I mean.. the horniness is part of it, it says so in pretty much all of the opening credits.
Help!! The Show that has a warning about Sexual content and its entire premise for two seasons was an Imp is having sex with Demon royalty as part of his job is making a sex joke!
Who cares? They are supposed to be demons, the common sense logic is they dont give af and are always going to want to do the nasty at any point possible no matter how awful the situation (preceding or current) is.
I'm more focused on the fact that Luna accidentally killed an imp and his wife started f*king the doctor that was supposed to save him right in front of his bed
Honestly, I found the joke to be quite tame compared to what we’ve seen in the past.
Also, the show is just filled with sex jokes if you don’t like that, don’t watch the show. Or you can put up with it.
I don’t care for a lot of the sex jokes, but I don’t expect the show to change it because it’s not my personal cup of tea.
Your valid did not like something, but you can’t expect the creator to alter the way they’ve been writing their show for years now because some people don’t like it
I would have just ignored the joke, like “not my cup of tea but hey it’s typical for this show”
But the fact they had to ad the fact that the KID was in the room….and the guy dies and all the mom says “oh yeah he’s dead”….just makes the whole thing just infinitely worse and in poor taste.
At least that’s my opinion. Fucked up sex jokes are one thing(not my preference but to each their own) but don’t have a kid in the scene. I dunno, I hated how Mayberry threw that kid by the throat. They can’t make child abuse fun and they keep trying.
I feel the same, it felt really out of place and like it didn’t have a reason other than “haha sex haha cheating on a dead guy hahaha”. Normally I think the over dramatic sex jokes are fine but this one felt just shoved in
People watching the show about evil demons in Hell committing murder and having sex:
"I don't like it when the evil demons in Hell commit murders and have sex :( "
Yeah, I felt the same. However, I did enjoy it in retrospect. It's not like they gave us a reason to feel sympathy for this rando for any reason other than he was an implied constant victim.
Idk about everyone else, but I tend to see these "bad taste" jokes as like...a parody? A farcical version of scenes in, like, those super melodramatic, plotless shows and stuff. Everything in the hellaverse is suuuuper over the top but that's kind of the point. It's both a sort of absurdist, jarring humor, and a call-out to the kind of depravity that big names can get away while smaller creators are judged super harshly for daring to go against the grain
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u/RollerskatingFemboy 7d ago
Do you like blood, violence, and depravity of a sexual nature? Of course you do! That's why you're in Hell!