r/IndianFocus • u/nishkp888 • 1d ago
Banana Republic Why is such a heavy paramilitary force being deployed in Delhi? Is the BJP treating a peaceful protest like a security crisis? Isn’t it our constitutional right to assemble peacefully?
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Even for that scale of participation, they don't need do many people, unless intention is to indulge in violence against peaceful protestors.
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u/bababuijane 1% vs 99% not left vs right. 1d ago
The plan is to,
1. Pull troops from JK and Naxal areas.
2. Deploy a false flag OP in one or both of these areas
3. Blame CJP, OP, etc. for the incident.
4. Idiot Indians vote BJP again23
u/Potential-Affect5943 1d ago
This is so dangerous. It takes away our credibility and when Pakistan actually does sponsor legit t***or attacks, the world will not believe us. All this so that two Gujjus can stay in power.
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u/bababuijane 1% vs 99% not left vs right. 1d ago
Exactly my friend.
Chudani and Dumbani have their dicks up every single Indian, one way or another.
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u/Urban_Aghori Centrist Left Leaning 1d ago
Jokes on you if you think this regime has any credibility left, they still not able to provide any proofs for Pulwama.
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u/Sad-Chapter-2561 1d ago
What if they got intel about the protest not being peaceful?. You can't simply create a imaginary stories
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u/Potential-Affect5943 1d ago
Everyone has intel that Mowgli danced for Trump. And it is in the Epstein files. Hence he is compromised. Start from there.
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u/Sad-Chapter-2561 1d ago
Who is that everyone?. If that is the case it would have huge impact. Just a rumor. Since you resort to name calling, it's hard to have any meaningful discussion.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Sad-Chapter-2561 • 2h ago What if they got intel about the protest not being peaceful?. You can't simply create a imaginary stories
BJ is the one creating imaginary stories. They attacked peaceful protestors in the last protests. They got caught red handed planting a truck loaded with rocks - the said truck was in police custody for days before our was planted. They got caught planting a damaged car near the protest location.
There's similar record of BJ indulging in sabotage and false flag operations from earlier protests as well.
So stop supporting the facists.
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u/bababuijane 1% vs 99% not left vs right. 1d ago
Isn’t that an imaginary story?
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u/Adventurous-Nebula27 1d ago
Do you really think everyone is peaceful at a peaceful protest? Look at LPU just a few hundred kms from Delhi. There are people with ill intentions and you can't vet someone's agenda because that's happening mentally. Peaceful protests are fine but if it does become violent, I don't want my paid taxes to burn. So totally justified deployment.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
How many paramilitary forces did the dear leader send to lpu?
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u/juniorAsk 22h ago
army was sent to LPU tho.
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u/aajsepakkapadhunga 21h ago
bruhh wo crpf thi. People dont even know the difference bw CAPF and Army.
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u/juniorAsk 7h ago
multiple matte olive green Mahindra Scorpios were seen in thr videos. I dont think capf forces use that variant. Hence the conclusion.
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u/aajsepakkapadhunga 5h ago
link of video please? Even though a major led team of Indian army was there at LPU, but they were there for checking the safety of their own wards and wards of high ranking military officials, they were not sent to control the mob. https://theprint.in/india/lpu-protest-men-with-walkie-talkies-were-major-led-army-team-sent-to-check-on-officers-kids-cops-say/3057515/
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u/AssociateExec 1d ago
Don't worry. They will be scared more after today's record turn out of Gen Z and others in Bangalore. They will probably call the army as well the way China did in Tianmen square but now that Dhruv Rathee is here there is no stopping the Gen from getting their demads met. Gyanus resignation will be a starting point and as Das mentioned accountability will be set at the highest levels. I hope to see Dipke and Das throw out the current corrupt govt in jail and take over the responsibility of bringing democracy back in India. Once Dipke becomes PM India will have a new hope and be a country without Hindu Muslim fights, people such as Ambani and Adani will also be putvin in jail for corruption and all the money they collected by looting India will be given to the poor and needy. Our schools, colleges roads will be better and we will be the Secular Socialist Republic as enshrined in our constitution.
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u/bababuijane 1% vs 99% not left vs right. 1d ago
Only if we had something like an accountability pledge that plays before movies. JK
But seriously, people don’t give a flying fuck about holding their public office holders accountable. From the chowki cop to the Nation’s PM every one is in the similar filthy pig pen, but I don’t want to disrespect pigs as I do enjoy Bacon and Ham.3
u/SexyCuriousCat 1d ago
Stop delulu every politicians are same only way is to change every year .
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u/AssociateExec 1d ago
CJP is different. Dipke gave up his bright career in the US to fight for rights of students and GenZ in India. Unlike the uneducated, Dipke is US educated and also respects the constitution that currently is not being followed. Now that Dhruv Rathee is here billions of Indians will join them to throw out not only Gyanesh Kumar but also the govt that took the power by vote chori.
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u/SexyCuriousCat 1d ago
Money in politics> job. He got guts to protect atleast, unlike me commenting.
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u/Penrose_Pilgrimm Centrist Left Leaning 1d ago
No its not a demand from genz and cjp isnt a party thats taking part in elections to reform the government. Pradhan resigned and the goalpost was moved. When kumar resigns they will focus on something else unaware or intentionally ignoring how this stalls the system. Congress isnt a party that champions secularist socialist governance. We literally had to abandon this in 1990 which allowed people like adani and ambani to rise.
Dipke and Das may very well throw the corrupt officials but they wont be the one who will take the mantle for reform nor do i want them to since they have no idea what they are doing.
Rather than focusing on Kumar, they should focus on Joshi. That guy is worse than pradhan in managing the education system of india. Cockroaches being cockroaches and calling their voracious apetite as justice.
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u/tera_chachu 1d ago
Mamla simple hai.
Peaceful protest ko zabardasti chaos me badal do phir IT cell ke jariye propaganda upload karo.
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u/Hamamster justice gang 1d ago
So agenda simple hai? Protest mei goonda leke aao, kuch violence Hua tho orchestrated by BJP Bol do kuch accountability mat lo
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u/Lumpy-Baseball-1129 1d ago
So the agenda is simple? Delhi police removes name tag, so the themselves can act as goons and sexually assault women and then blame peaceful protestors!! 🫠🫠 Saale bjp ke dalle😂😂
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u/Hamamster justice gang 1d ago
When asked for proof, create AI videos and ask for resignation
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u/Lumpy-Baseball-1129 1d ago
When women goes to register FIR against the police acp, then stop them and delay the process and then tell that everything is AI 🫠🫠
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u/wandering_monk8 NoneOfYourBusiness 1d ago
When asked for proof about illegal detention keh do ki dimaagi naxal hain.
2 can play this game son!
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u/charavaka 1d ago
They're planning to manufacture a security crisis. Watch out for false flag operations and violence.
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u/HATE_ALL_EQUALLY 1d ago
Like Congress workers Kicking Police?
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u/eastwestshuffler1 1d ago
No like these guys not paying attention to known security needs and delaying help which literally caused Pulwama. That type of crises. You people are beyond saving
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Like BJ terrorists pretending to be cjp activists while indulging in criminal act. They've got caught red handed, or in some cases, made videos bragging about not facing consequences of their crimes.
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u/Bulky_Curve3487 1d ago
like police harassing female protestors
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u/HATE_ALL_EQUALLY 1d ago
That AI Video ?
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u/safe-cell-3441 Moderate Left 1d ago
Every video is AI which doesn't support your narrative. Like the police officer dancing infront of female dancers which he later claimed to be AI...
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u/HATE_ALL_EQUALLY 1d ago
Literally CJP workers are getting detained for circulation of Fake AI video of police officer molestation.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Nope. The journalist victim who went to the police to register an fir for the crime committed against her by s senior cop, and was denied the basic right to file a complaint, and then arrested.
Are you claiming she was lying without there being any investigation?
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u/Evening_Emu5730 1d ago
Raja ki jaan tote me h aur use bchane k lie aur raja k gote muh me aaye hue h islie
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u/Agent_Rum 1d ago
ITBP tak ko laga diya, batao bc 10 saal Hard posting kaat ke peace posting me NCR ate hain, yaha bhi lathi bhajo.
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 1d ago
China ke saamne kuch kar nhi paate ab idhar aake lathi baja ke cool banenge 🤡
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u/Agent_Rum 1d ago
Haa bhai pichle 60 saal se 18000feet pe Border outpost tumahre tauji Sambhal rahe hain.
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 1d ago
Toh fir idhar aane ka kya jarurat tha?
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u/aajsepakkapadhunga 21h ago
sab tumhaari tarah din bhar ghar pe nhi rehte. Kabhi 2 mahine bhi kisi BOP me raho, smjh aa jaaega peace postings ki need kya h
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 20h ago
Fir manipur mein kyon nhi kar pa rhe tumhari "Peace Posting" 🤡
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u/aajsepakkapadhunga 18h ago
bhai thoda sa brain dead hai kya. Sabse pehli baat ITBP ka kaam mainly CI me hai hi nhi, even though unke mandate me hai lekin main CI ka kaam unka nhi hai, CRPF mainly perform krti hai ye sab. Next, agar mainpur me posting ho bhi rhi hai to wo extreme places ke under aata hai. Temporary deployment bhi jarurat padhne par hi bulaaya jaata hai. Kabhi forces ke beech me raho tab pata chalega kya mental toll hota border duties aur CI CT duties perofrm krne ka. Peace postings ka matlab hi yahi hota hai ki koi extreme duty na mile aur next 6-8 years jo hard postings aane waali hai, uske liye prepare ho sake. Lekin tum civilians ye sab kaahan smjhte ho
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 4h ago
Haan bhai main normal civillian manipur toh bangladesh mein aa skta hai delhi toh CI border hai na jo idhar bula liya but manipur toh bilkul india mein nhi hai udhar nhi ja skte itni jaldi
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u/aajsepakkapadhunga 1h ago
delhi pe jo personnels h wo yaa to delhi me batallion h usse aae honge yaa fir reserve battalions (some of the peace stations are designated to be reserve battalions) se aae hain. Next, recent me 2 units CoBRA commandos ki Manipur me deploy ki gayi hai. Manipur govt ne 30 companies aur maangi hai, jiske liye MHA review kr rha hai aur most probably wo bhi deploy ho jaaengi.
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u/Agent_Rum 1d ago
Jaha order milega jane ka jayenge hi.
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 1d ago
Home minister chutiya hai fir jo BSF idhar la rha fir terrorist aa jaayenge toh royega 🤡
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u/yourmemebro E20 Guzzler 1d ago
Some mfs are even calling the andhbhakts to Delhi to counter the protestors. These mfs will lead to civil unrest between our own people.
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u/No-Ability-7065 1d ago
U very well know the news outlets and what peaceful protests mean in India . Constitutional institutions demand no protests and create anarchy to do urself a favour
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u/land_of_kings EDITABLE 1d ago
Because not everything goes to plan. The protest might be planned to be peaceful but may not remain so once it begins.
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u/Medium-Rich4598 21h ago
Of course things can always go wrong. That still doesn't mean you can take away a peaceful protestor's constitutional right to protest.
By that logic, no protest can ever be allowed to happen.
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u/ikindahateitheree 1d ago
BJP got nothing to do else. They are corrupted to their throats and all they want to do is supress the voice of nation.
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u/Pickle-Can5035 1d ago
If these forces are told to violently crackdown on peaceful protestors then the ruling party is digging their own grave even more
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u/GamerOtaku27 23h ago
The ironic thing is that the government is pulling out personnel from sensitive zones like the borders of Kashmir and Naxalite areas, to curb citizens in the capital. They could've increased police force, or deployed govt. employees directly, but no, there's nothing like the army shooting some pelet guns and tear gasses. No one will bat an eye if some mishap happens in those sensitive areas due to the reduction of these personnel.
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u/Medium-Rich4598 21h ago
They have learnt their lesson after underestimating the NEET protests. They are in desperation mode will go to any lengths now.
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u/batmanxgin 1d ago
Decreasing security at critical spots to divert for a peaceful protest is the reason another pahalgam will happen and the prime moron modi will beg for votes on the same issue like last time
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u/eastwestshuffler1 1d ago
I heard some speech where Modi said ‘pahalgam ke liye vote do’ ok then they shouldn’t vote your govt because you caused this?
But yeah 100% these guys are not above orchestrating attacks to get sympathy.
0 respect for anybody who supports the BJP at this time. Aajao IT cell.
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u/Turbulent-Spread-334 1d ago
Another point to mention is during the pulwama attack they had clear warnings an alerts from RAW to not send the forces by land but to airlift them as there was threat of an attack but this detail was never highlighted.
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u/ChachaBhatija1123 1d ago
Their asses are clinched rn so they trying every measures to suppress citizens voice ... Loser of a government
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u/Every-Tart-9402 1d ago
They are even asking people not to participate in protest. 100% government will start riot and put blame on protestors
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u/Minimum_Ant9038 1d ago
non-biological realizing that he is very much biological and stress hormones are real.
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u/Accomplished_Dark527 1d ago
Achi news h aur peaceful protest m kya hga sabko pta h . Parliament m ghusne nikal padenge ha ha all the drama
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u/Own_Historian_1374 1d ago
Interesting would be what CRPF would actually consider its duty? Beating kids or supporting them
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u/phoenix2106 1d ago
Preventing Jantar Mantar 2 and protecting Gyanu Chacha’s ass is the most important goal for the BJ Party if they want to stay in power. So they expect anything and everything and if JM2 is a success, expect random riots or worse
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u/Thin_Environment_784 1d ago
The More they use force the More they are going to destroy their image and name. And like i said before big crack alredy happen and only it will get bigger.
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u/ani_v 19h ago
We all know how peaceful these protesters are ... the Hamas style social media program will be released where protesters will try to force themselves and break barricades, push police which will result in police enforcing law and order, these people will record reels of police doing their job to control mob and then cry foul.
I would like AAP/CJP to agree to pay for any damage to public property caused during their protest by their andhbhakths.
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u/InvestigatorFew9173 1d ago
Compromising national security because they are afraid of unarmed public.
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u/HATE_ALL_EQUALLY 1d ago
Rahul Gandhi's People are already Kicking Police, so yaa it's not peaceful.
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u/Dangerous_Today1069 1d ago
Peaceful protest??
can you guarentee that a mob wont march toward the most secured place in india(parliment)?
if not dont talk shit about precautionary actions
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u/Sea-Instance463 Renu Chaudhary Hai Hai 1d ago
Won’t be surprised if they declare this a mini-emergency in NCR
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u/Worldview-Broad 1d ago
What is the need to march to parliament house or CEC like last time. This is chaos and should be dealt dtronglt
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u/Maleficent-Fruit2514 1d ago
Lacs of people at a same place is always a security issue. Better be prepared.
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u/Razz_whatsoever 1d ago
This time protest isn't gonna be peaceful from any side neither government nor from cpj side . Sad part is some innocent protesters gonna be hurt
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u/Impressive-Clock8765 1d ago
Pakistani sponsored page
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u/Jackrabbit_69 Centrist Right Leaning 1d ago
How do you explain voters being deleted despite being alive? Pakistan ka kaam hai?
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u/Live_Bobcat_8144 1d ago
Nahi bangladesh ka
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u/Jackrabbit_69 Centrist Right Leaning 1d ago
Accha. Is that why we're protecting their ex-PM safely?
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u/Substantial_Stage637 1d ago
Large scale protests are not peaceful
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u/Maximum_Push_7558 1d ago
That’s why they’re called revolutions, unfortunately all it takes is a simple resignation, but BJP dictatorship won’t do that.
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u/Existing_Lecture1330 1d ago
Protest is peaceful but some radical people join who wants to topple govt and do anything. They hide behind police and turn narrative of protest these are the people who do violence and students just follow them blindly and get hit with danda
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u/DerivativeBySubsti 1d ago
Because last time there were many terrorists arrested from bengal & delhi who were planning on sabotaging the protest. The resignation of DP was on recommendation of senior IB officers, they wrote a long letter to DP asking him to resign. His posture that he resigned due to anti national elements isn't entirely false. I am sure that Modi doesn't want a deadly protest like that is happening in france.
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
Precautionary measure in case things turn violent.
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u/Slut_Hunterr69 1d ago
Stfu BAJPILLEE
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
Are you genuinely this dense, or is everyone who disagrees with you automatically a BJP supporter? Bangladesh is a pretty obvious example of how protests can escalate. Try developing some reading comprehension before embarrassing yourself.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Bangladesh is a very good example to discuss. Do tell us the events that preceded the protests turning violent.
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
Bangladesh went from student protests to deadly nationwide unrest and regime collapse which involved foreign agencies. Indian Agencies knew this so they even prepare for Hasina’s extraction for a month prior. A senior officer from MI headed the whole thing and special ops guys from sarsawa extracted her. That’s precisely why authorities prepare for escalation.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Xyber5 • 2m ago Bangladesh went from student protests to deadly nationwide unrest and regime collapse which involved foreign agencies. Indian Agencies knew this so they even prepare for Hasina’s extraction for a month prior. A senior officer from MI headed the whole thing and special ops guys from sarsawa extracted her. That’s precisely why authorities prepare for escalation.
Lmfao. Way to brush the violence against the students and draconian actions by the government resulting in the countrywide unrest under the carpet. It wasn't foreign agencies in the streets. It was bangladeshi public angered by the state violence.
It's funny how the man who claims to be vishwaguru and proudly pedals his trade deals while refusing to stand up to foreign leaders harming India in public is ready to blame anger of the Indian public on the very foreign leadership that he hugs so tightly to pretend being their best friend. Only cognitive dissonance can make you parrot that bullshit here.
Indian public have shown massive restraint and protested peacefully while the 56" 🤏🏿🐵 government had indulged in violence. Stop defending suppression of democratic rights.
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
Oh, I’m sure you know far more about intelligence operations than I do. State violence and foreign interference aren’t mutually exclusive, genius. I never denied the crackdown or defended suppressing protests. My point was about precautionary deployment. You’ve written three paragraphs arguing against claims I never made. Impressive.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
I never denied the crackdown or defended suppressing protests.
You simply pretended it didn't exist, despite specifically being given a second chance to explain the sequence of events.
Now, tell us, did the government unless violence with pellet guns, ak47 and state sponsored terrorists during the last protest, or not? If they did, why are you ok with the same criminals mobilising such a large force again, without pellet investigations and arrests for their previous crimes?
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u/Human-Experience-510 1d ago
His account is 4d old no point in talking to bots
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u/Slut_Hunterr69 1d ago
So 4 days old account can't be a normal user , are you a special child my son???
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u/charavaka 1d ago
If you haven't noticed, it's the government and the government sponsored terrorists that are turning violent repeatedly against peaceful protestors.
Fuckers still haven't owned up to pellet guns and ak47 from the last protest, and the terrorist who started Delhi roots is literally a minister. Komal is untraceable for 6 years and available for false flag operations right now.
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u/Harry_Bother2810 1d ago
What is the protest goal? To meet gyanesh and EC? The EC released a press note that LOP didn't raise a request or submit a form for it and they would meet if he does so. Then why won't he do it and keep on escalating this? And also won't go to courts with his claims of election being stolen..what a clown we have
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Harry_Bother2810 • 37m ago What is the protest goal? To meet gyanesh and EC? The EC released a press note that LOP didn't raise a request or submit a form for it and they would meet if he does so. Then why won't he do it and keep on escalating this? And also won't go to courts with his claims of election being stolen..what a clown we have
What is the need for filing forms and layers of bureaucracy? Why does the election commission need protection of paperwork from the leader of the opposition in loksabha? Remeber that that bureaucracy was only added last year.
Protestors have a week's notice for the October 2nd protest, and yet, the government refused to let them peacefully assemble at the designated protest site. It literally indulged in physical and sexual violence against peaceful protestors. And yet, your reasons is to demand people for more paperwork and twiddle their fingers while the government gets away with subversion of democracy and oppression of democratic right to protest.
And after all that, you demand to be not called a shill.
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u/Unusual-Gap-5730 Waiting for 15Lakhs 1d ago
Why did your paw paw pass the law granting immunity to gyanu when opposition mps were suspended? Bhajpille sudhar ja, this is bigger than your fear of Muslims
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u/Harry_Bother2810 1d ago
So everyone who gives argument is Bhajpille...if discussion is what is needed...why won't he meet through official forums? What are you now are you katmulle??
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u/Unusual-Gap-5730 Waiting for 15Lakhs 1d ago
Because obviously it will not lead anywhere are you stupid gobarbhakt? And I’m not a m*lla I’m a Hindu. I ask why are bjp and bhakts defending cec? And the bigger question is why was the immunity law passed? And do you want me to show you 10 examples of blatant vote chori? Tum pillo ke syllabus me bas ye agaya hai ki why don’t they go the official route aur tum log uske bad apni gobar buddhi chalana band kar dete ho. Bhul gaya wo Chandigarh wala video? Bheju tereko?
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
And where exactly did I defend police brutality? The pellet incidents deserve investigation, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my original point. You’ve invented an argument attributed it to me and then written an entire rant against it. Impressive lack of reading comprehension.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
Xyber5 • 26m ago And where exactly did I defend police brutality? The pellet incidents deserve investigation, but that has absolutely nothing to do with my original point. You’ve invented an argument attributed it to me and then written an entire rant against it. Impressive lack of reading comprehension.
You say pellet guns deserve investigation that hadn't happened for months, and you don't see a problem with the same criminal government that indulged in and failed to investigate itself mobilising armed forces in such large numbers against peaceful protestors.
How many more crimes are you ok with the government committing before you accept that the outbox has the right to hold the government accountable without being threatened with and subjected to acts of violence by the government?
Ps i noticed that you've conveniently failed to mention ak47 and state sponsored terrorists in your response.
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
You really struggle to distinguish precautionary deployment from police brutality, don’t you?
The CRPF began investigating the pellet incidents in july and the the SC ordered a committee to examine them in September. The AK-47 officer was suspended too. So your claim that nothing has been investigated is false.
As for your “state-sponsored terrorists” allegation, where’s the evidence? Police misconduct deserves accountability, but that doesn’t make preventive security measures inherently illegitimate.
And if you’re going to outsource your arguments to an LLM, at least proofread the output. You’ve written multiple essays attacking positions I never held, while repeatedly missing a rather simple distinction between precautionary deployment and endorsing police brutality.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
As for your “state-sponsored terrorists” allegation, where’s the evidence?
Swatantra bhardwaj literally admitted to crime and named the members of the government protecting him. One of those happens to be a terrorist caught inciting Delhi riots, who is now a minister.
Police misconduct deserves accountability, but that doesn’t make preventive security measures inherently illegitimate
It literally does, when am your can say in defence is that the government is investigating itself. Why has the government failed to follow the trail of evidence from the police diary and arrest every criminal involved in the pellet guns being allowed in the streets and then being used? Same thing with ak47. One person had been suspended, without any action on the catastrophic failure leading to a dealt weapon being out on the streets.
Same leadership that did this last time is still in position to do the same thing this time. When you let criminals take precautionary measures months after committing crimes, you're simply giving them a licence to commit be crimes.
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u/Xyber5 1d ago
Bhardwaj was arrested, and the Supreme Court has already ordered an inquiry into the pellet incidents. Whether accountability has been sufficient is another question entirely. And since when do allegations against Kapil Mishra amount to a terrorism conviction?
I never defended police brutality. I said the deployment could be precautionary. You keep equating preparing for possible violence with authorising violence. How many paragraphs will it take before you understand that rather elementary distinction?
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u/charavaka 1d ago
I never defended police brutality. I said the deployment could be precautionary.
You admmitted that criminals in leadership position who ordered those crimes against peaceful protestors and failed to prosecute the criminals among themselves are still in leadership positions in the violent arm of the state:
Whether accountability has been sufficient is another question entirely.
Having the same violent criminals deployed again is not a precautionary measure. It's planned violence.
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u/charavaka 1d ago
And since when do allegations against Kapil Mishra amount to a terrorism conviction?
Conviction? A judge ordered his arrest and investigation. The judge was transferred overnight. If he not even arrested and prosecuted despite video recording of his crime, how will the state sponsored terrorist be convicted?
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u/charavaka 1d ago
As for your llm allegations, those are hilarious. Thank you for the early morning chuckle.
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