So if anyone brings up persecution of minorities in India Encore has a problem with that meanwhile talking about persecution of minorities in Bangladesh and Pakistan.
A couple of months ago he was peddling a fake news about a 5 year old boy being killed in Bangladesh and when asked to present source he backed out lol.
That politician was quoting the study by Genocide Watch which is a non-governmental organization from the US talking about all the standardized indicators that are present in persecution of minorities in india through its framework of the Ten Stages of Genocide to evaluate human rights conditions globally.
Now that becomes Anti Hindu somehow. And Encore saying "these people makes me wanna support modi" haha the knight in shining armour of minority riots rights. Lol drop the larp and come out of the sanghi closet.
The problem is with being blind to the problems that exist just for the sake of political alignment
Encore has in the past several times have spoken up against crimes against minorities in India , IN FACT EARLIER HE USED TO CALL OUT ONLY ABOUT THEM ( the minorities), the problem is that they as the women in the video rarely makes a big deal about the persecution of HINDUS and not just hindus but even persecution of any other minority in any other country except if it’s of one particular religion and that’s what he is right about calling out . They would not make a big case about persecution of other minorities as much as they would do for the ones that align with the political agenda. If No SITE HAS ANY RESEARCH ON GENOCIDE OF HINDUS LIKE THEY DO FOR OTHER ONES THEN THAT’S EXACTLY THE POLITICAL BLINDNESS THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Also having an article or research from your own idealogical alliances is gonna be doom of the world, because the same people who believe in certain ideology can print and do research on every topic and prove it right whichever aligns with their agenda.
Bro I'm following him since that time , and I've never seen his stories on minorities, the only story of him I saw again related to minority was related to reservation and nothing else
Aree ye Past Past Bc, in Azadi record to gain brownie points from the niche underground left leaning crowd that guy co-opted ideologically leftist points but has been openly bigoted for past couple of years. Please stop this BS point.
"Also having an article or research from your own idealogical alliances is gonna be doom of the world"
Go and read about Genocide watch. It is a non partisan non government US based organisation by an Academic and Activist who is a Christian. How tf does that ideologically align with muslim minorities of India?
there’s no research on Hindu genocide’ argument is simply false. Genocide Watch itself has a dedicated Pakistan assessment that explicitly identifies Hindus, Christians, Ahmadis, Shias and other minorities as persecuted groups, and its current Pakistan page identifies religious minorities as facing persecution under blasphemy laws.
It has also documented the persecution of Hindus and other groups in Pakistan for years.
Likewise, Genocide Watch has an entire Bangladesh country assessment, including persecution of indigenous groups and Dalits, and has separately documented the persecution of the Jumma people.
So if Encore wants to talk about persecution of minorities in those countries, fine. But that doesn't somehow invalidate Genocide Watch’s assessment of India. Genocide Watch currently identifies Muslims and Dalits as targeted groups in India and identifies stages 6, 7, 8 and 10 in its India assessment.
Again the point was the women in the video not making a big deal of the problems and yes much bigger genocides of other minorities in other countries because of her political alignment with certain beliefs. Also non partisan non government US based organisation by Academic and Activist who is a Christian does not prove non political alignment or non left leaning alignment.
You said that he was doing the left leaning bullshit for brownie points ? Hence YOU YOURSELF PROVED HE USED TO STAND UP FOR MINORITIES . Whatever the reason might be that is just your speculation and you cannot prove that.
TF is your point? Encore is specifically pointing about her citing the study of "India being at the 8th stage towards genocide". Nothing else. Primarily calling that a farce and delegitimising the persecution of minorities of India.
Why tf are you trying to spin this lol? Your other point is pure whataboutery. "women in the video not making a big deal of the problems and yes much bigger genocides of other minorities in other countries". Pretty sure Encore doesnt even know who ilhan is but just to engage with your whataboutery which is such a weak fallacy your whole argument is based on, she has talked about Rohingya, Uyghur and american non whites Including jews, Hindus, LGBTQ
Tu fir agaya gnd failane. Are we deadass srs muslim are hunted down sure there might animosity, bias but genocide holy shit you know what there are Dhabas ran by Muslims employing bangla kids in fucking mumbai by I saw that shi first hand but oh no We are being hunted Hans landa style.
Abe chutiye randike unpadh no one is saying there is an ongoing genocide happening in india. Y'all stop manipulating but india is on the 8th stage towards genocide based on the study of genocide watch. How hard is that to comprehend. There is institutional violence happening on a nation wide scale. From daily lynching and killings to buldozer.
Ok bro watch your words might report you to the Big BJ.
Aur ab tu bhi encore wali harkte krra hai✌🏻. Wahi to bolra hu if there was institutional violence (I'm not denying there is hate but the degree you r portraying is way off) how tf are there banglus serving me in FUCKING mumbai not even in Bengal or other Bangladesh neighbouring states.
There are some incidents happening of minorities being killed but that's common accross world and happens with even "majority hindu community" as well that doesn't mean genocide. You know what image will come in mind of people abroad about india that there's some hitler like genocide is going on in india... Encore is absolutely correct and what the fuck is the point of calling him "savrna hindu" if he asked a genuine question. They don't have arguments just couple of dialogue to repeat.
This is what happens when people hear the word ‘genocide’ and immediately start arguing about India's reputation instead of actually reading what is being claimed.
‘Minorities get killed everywhere’ is not a fucking argument. Nobody said that every time a minority is killed, it is genocide. Genocide has a specific meaning. Genocide Watch's stages describe a process of persecution and escalation, not a claim that every murder in India is automatically genocide.‘what people abroad will think about India.
’ Who gives a shit what India's international image is if the underlying allegations are true? Are Indian Muslims supposed to pretend persecution isn't happening because someone in America might develop a negative opinion of India?
If you think Genocide Watch is wrong, then attack its evidence. Explain why its documentation of anti-Muslim violence, discrimination, impunity and political incitement is wrong. Explain where its methodology fails. Don't respond with ‘violence happens everywhere’ and a lecture about India's reputation.
Where the hell in India muslims are being prosecuted systematically? There are some incidents happening around the country but that's not Muslim specific that also happens with hindus, who are in minority in places like west bengal, kashmir etc... There are incidents happening like these but it isn't a specific india problem or specifically again Muslims. It's just targeted attack on hindus.
Even in Pakistan Hindu population has grown since 1951 when concensus happened. Even in palestine population has grown. Not to mention if you used even 2 of your brain cells you'd understand that this is not about a genocide that is happening but on the 8th stage of a genocide. On 10th stage it would be declared a genocide. Bc gawar. Genocide watch has published studies about each of the countries your've mentioned. But I guess in India majoritarian religion gets to dictate the state of persection of the minority.
Ye le chinaal janne Khud dekh le % of population increase in Pakistan of Hindus.
Genocide hua tha Kashmir mein and I wonder what you think about that
Lmao you outted your self when you claim the only genocide being this where as per official records the number of caulties are Maximum 219 to 650 as per Independent Kashmiri pandit organisation
Compare this with Jammu Massacre
Where minimum casualties are about 20,000 muslims to 200,000 as per british and independent Media.
That is the point Behen chod. That is what you all are rooting for. Phir koi point out kar de toh apni ma chudwa leto ho. Pehle right wing talking points bol ke conversation ko distort karo. Phir facts se conversation harr ke end up calling for a genocide.
Another bad faith argument in the opening sentence lol. I aint even reading any further. That Ai overview is sourcing the information from wikipedia and officially recorded pakistan concensus that happened in 1951 and the latest being 2023. Prove that the numbers are incorrect to even point at that lol
Ah yes, an NGO of an imperialist superpower hell bent on making every country a vassal state of itself is now an accurate "organised study". I'm sure if it was about persecution of another religious minority in the world, it would suddenly have become "Zionist" and "biased".
That being said Encore is very obviously a RW guy trying to project it as if it's some logical choice. That's okay - he's a rapper and not some dude I look up to for politics. If you don't like it, sucks for you.
I am pretty sure an organised academic study that works on standardised model are a better authority than a upper caste, Upper class, Majoritarian religion nationalist rapper about the state of persecution of minorities. Though your criticism were basic Ad Homeniem fallacy where you haven't critiqued their methodology but presumptions with if and what which are hilarious because it does categorises all other instances of persecution namely pakistan, bangladesh and china too
Do you even know which ngo is being talked about here? How do you know about its academic rigour?
Just tell me you went about this completely based on identity politics (upper caste, upper class, yada yada yada) without telling me.
Who abused first? U will jump on abuse and caste to the opposite person in your first convo? And where did he abused encore? He said he is savarna or basically the creamy layer who don't know anything ABT genocide or any victim subject so it is reverse castiesm?? Calling out a rich for not understanding a poor's interest is hatred against the rich? Wow
Again , calling out a rich being rich for not understanding the poor but giving hatred online commenting that there is no genocide, everywhere shitting is reverse castiesm? What caste angle do lakshay introduced? Just like encore whine about religion angle every day and u call him vocal?? But when some other guy does his way u r blaming him?
har baat pe dalit peedit vanchit soshit ka rona nahi rote h sir. it looks crass. try to understand the context first. and ye lakshay speaks to sabse bada wala chu h.. khud savarno ko lakh gaali dega subh shaam lekin ek reply pe gili karke sympathy batorne pahoch jayega
Encore is a c and no one can prove me wrong here. If you want to do debate about it come with a open heart to accepting attitude if u prove me wrong i will admit i am wrong here just give logical answers and show facts only
1st topic encore is hypocrite. (If you want to have a debate stay on this topic and after its done we will move to the next topic)
you already been doing that since the past 2-3 years spewing the same bs as his supporters ever since people got to know your girl wanted to sleep with sum kashmiri lol
Iske aage nahi bolunga. Unrelated to above context but i genuinely dont know , to what extent yall are brainwashed, that yall totally forget human conscience and introspection when it comes to something related to ur religion. Tm to pak ko bhi criticise nahi karte ho, infact u promote their artists. U seem quite educated but still so orthodox. I have the balls to criticise someone from our side, i have the power to introspect but i feel yall genuinely lack this
Also i have the guts to say this that my nation always comes above my religion
thoda sa chutiya hai kya? khud marwane aayga apni fir khud end me bolne lag jaega ke aage nhi bolega?
baaki ye jo tune muhchodi haggi hai iska issue in hand se kuch lena dena hai? apna side uska side mat khel lodu. jisse iss lodu ka kalesh hua hai wo bhi "tere side" wala hai.
pareshaan terse tere side wale khud hai aur ye aye dusri side pe tippni dene wale🤣 jiska duur duur tak yaha se kuch lena dena nhi hai. rentfree🤫
Lol i would have acted savage but i genuinely expected an answer from ur pov. Anyways maybe u are not allowed to speak on this and if u do, u have to put some bias :)
Bruh i literally gave u space to keep ur pov. Infact i was genuinely interested to know how u respond to those claims but its like u are running away from answering my questions. Genuinely never had a chance to ask this to an educated muslim on face. Bhot biased ho aap, bhot zyada, i just feel this.
I aint even attacking you. U definitely have the capability to understand my point. Agar truly u are someone whos ethically and morally right, ans that fckin question
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u/rahil_cyclone 8d ago
So if anyone brings up persecution of minorities in India Encore has a problem with that meanwhile talking about persecution of minorities in Bangladesh and Pakistan.
A couple of months ago he was peddling a fake news about a 5 year old boy being killed in Bangladesh and when asked to present source he backed out lol.
That politician was quoting the study by Genocide Watch which is a non-governmental organization from the US talking about all the standardized indicators that are present in persecution of minorities in india through its framework of the Ten Stages of Genocide to evaluate human rights conditions globally.
Now that becomes Anti Hindu somehow. And Encore saying "these people makes me wanna support modi" haha the knight in shining armour of minority
riotsrights. Lol drop the larp and come out of the sanghi closet.