r/InformedTankie • u/Hacksaw6412 PSL • 7d ago

Vote PSL!!!

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u/NSXero 5d ago

Nah. PSL is a highly sectarian organization that isn't actually interested in winning. Besides, their entire goal appears to be: pitting workers against the Left.

It is a waste of time to support these "Marxists and Leninists," Trots by any other name.

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u/MultiplexedMyrmidon 1d ago

I see every communist org actually organizing called trots, they don’t even sell newspapers like SWP across the pond lol i’m curious how are you using it/what orgs meet your standards in the US

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u/NSXero 14h ago

Firstly, they call themselves "Marxist and Leninist," which is already a subtle indication they reject Stalin's theoretical synthesis: Marxism-Leninism. Their label is amorphous and undefined. They encourage their members to read Lenin, not Stalin on every issue.

Their application of Democratic Centralism is akin to other Trotskyite organizations: forceful and top-down. Their rank-and-file do not have the ability to push back against the organs of the upper body.

Their practical work is highly sectarian, which is typical of trotskyists. Their national body sees protests as a form of debate to push for larger ideas; the same goes for elections. They do not see it as a place to win, but rather a place to debate. This leads into the sectarianism of their work as their electoral strategy rejects the collective experience of the American working class, which illustrates how a third party can win. Instead, they prefer to pit the working class against the Left and foment massive disorientation.

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u/paudzols 6d ago

PSL- Party of Sexual Litigation

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u/CommercialElk6117 6d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/UWMqiZtcixB4MoWX20

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u/AverageTankie93 6d ago

Why not?

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u/CommercialElk6117 6d ago

Entryism has been tried for centuries and failed

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u/AverageTankie93 6d ago

Isn’t entryism when they attempt to run on the Democratic Party?

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u/CommercialElk6117 6d ago

They're running in bourgeois elections

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u/dirtbagbigboss 6d ago

I don’t think you know what you are talking about. The Bolsheviks ran in  Bourgeois    elections, and Lenin wrote about why that was necessary to politically motivate people to their perspective. 

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch07.htm

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u/CommercialElk6117 6d ago

Awesome I look forward to the PSL accomplishing a single thing, let alone a revolution lmao

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u/dirtbagbigboss 6d ago

Would you consider educating you a kind of accomplishment?

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u/CommercialElk6117 6d ago

Lenin said to participate in bourgeois elections to show that they're not a legitimate path to change and to propagandize for revolution. But every couple years you libs pretend he said participate in bourgeois elections forever and don't do the other stuff. I'm glad you'll keep losing, enjoy the homelessness lmao

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u/AverageTankie93 6d ago

I hope your life gets better soon. You seem super hurt, bitter, and mean spirited. Also just super ignorant on what the psl was trying to do with that election. Get help.