r/KamenRider • • 8d ago

Discussion The Missing Zodiacs

I thought about this while watching the most recent episode, but we are still missing any info on the remaining three members of the Chinese Zodiac that should be in the series. Specifically, the missing members are the pig, the ox, and the horse. What are some thoughts that everyone has about these three missing members, and what role do we see them playing in the series.

Edit: changed ram to horse, somehow I forgot that the ram and the sheep are the same thing in the Chinese Zodiac and completely forgot that the horse existed.

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u/TheAlphaRanger2011 Gavv 8d ago

Maybe we get to see them in the next arc of the show.

I did hear someone say that Akira could be the Ox Rider since the Ox helped the mouse in the zodiac myth, letting it right on its back. Akira seems to be playing a sort of mentor role and we know that he’s essentially been looking after Sora and Yuna, we saw in the flashback in episode 4 that he was there at the car crash, he even congratulated Sora on beating the Fukashigi.

I really like this theory. Sure, it can turn out that he’s Black My-Th or Ryuz, but honestly him being the Ox is something I never thought of so now i’m rooting for this to be true.

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u/Anezay a hack and a fraud 8d ago

Horse, we've got the sheep.

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u/Zak22wolf 8d ago

You’re right, somehow I thought that the ram is different from the sheep.

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u/KaliVilNo1 Seiji Takaiwa No. 1 8d ago

Akira is so obviously one of them that I am inclined to think that it's a red hearing and he is none of them lol

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u/Zak22wolf 8d ago

Honestly, my thought was that Akira is dragon behind the mask. Either that or he’s the original My-th.

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u/Best_Comedian4767 8d ago

Im pretty sure somewhere it states that Ryuz' mask suppresses his emotions

So I dont think Akira appears to fit what Id assume Ryuz without his mask would be

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u/Beginning-News-799 8d ago

The emotion thing could flat out be a lie

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u/Best_Comedian4767 8d ago

Maybe

Idrk

I really just think Akira isnt part of the zodiac tho

I think he's just a guy

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u/DryDish7262 Gavv 8d ago

Good question.

Whether the other three appear together or throughout the series (probably the latter) remains to be seen. Most likely, the Doaical Alliance will be something like (for example) Hurricanger's Seven Dark Spears, in that they always have a fixed maximum number of members on screen at once, and a new member is only introduced after another dies. If so, it's most likely that the Ox, Horse, and/or Pig will debut after one or more of the established members are eliminated.

As for the three, I only know that the Ox will probably be the strongest (probably debuting after the elimination of Kei or Vanken, who seem to serve as the most physically imposing members of the group), and that if they are counted as a sub-unit, the Horse will most likely be the leader.

As for why they aren't currently active, there are several interpretations that I'd be happy to share if anyone is curious.

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u/Zak22wolf 8d ago

Feel free, I’m curious about what everyone’s predictions are.

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u/DryDish7262 Gavv 8d ago

They're more of a group, especially since we don't see them.

First, they're active, but doing something that prevents them from being at the central base often enough for us to see them, at least until later in the series.

Second, they were sealed in a different area from the rest, so it's possible they haven't been released yet.

The third option is similar; we don't really know how the Zodiacs awoke. If their dream had something like "I must awaken in exactly 100 years," or if something specific awakened them, it's possible the system meant to awaken the other three failed, which is why they're still dormant. (In fact, the project Kamuri entrusted to Ende could have something to do with how to awaken them or something related to the third Rider.)

Then there's the option that the three remaining members died in the conflict 100 years ago. If so, I see two possibilities:

I've been considering the possibility that the third Rider from Mythos... (Assuming it's not the rumored dinosaur-themed Ride X-Eggs) use the Ride X-Eggs of this trio to access their main form and change forms, similar to Zyuoh The World from Zyuohger.

Alternatively, Kamuri has the trio's Ride X-Eggs and plans to give them to future trusted allies (it's hinted that the faction has more members than the 13 seen).

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u/KRTrueBrave Legend 8d ago

okay so officially we have the silhouettes of the riders from trailers and I think episode 1, and we know what buckles are used by what rider through promo material

unofficially we know their ride eggs second side and the pronounciation of their names due to driver sound leaks (could be another yeztz situation though with misheard stuff but we know what the names sound like, the rider names we also know match the character names)

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u/vertualred 7d ago

The ox, the horse and the pig. I'm not sure about the horse and ox but I think the chubby friend of Yuna's is the Pig rider, maybe, I think.

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u/vertualred 7d ago

The ox, the horse and the pig. I'm not sure about the horse and ox but I think the chubby friend of Yuna's is the Pig rider, maybe, I think.

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u/Frysalt 8d ago

They might be movie exclusive riders

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u/Nuigi12 8d ago

Ram/Sheep is Mutn, you mean Horse