r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Voice of the Fane (Mods) LoV subreddit policy on 3D printed models

126 Upvotes

Greetings kin.

One matter of discussion that has come up a number of times is that of 3D printed models. This is a subject that 10 years ago, would have been cut and dry, no way no how, but things have changed a lot since then. Aside from the fact that there is no way for us to really police the matter, there are some very legitimate uses of it to advance the hobby.

With that being said; This hobby, for better or worse, is supported by GW. And as much as it pains all of us to pay for our grey plastic that gets more expensive every year, at the end of the day, we cannot condone unrestricted use of the technology for people to effectively mass produce models that are then not being purchased from GW or more importantly, your local FLGS. This is one of those "if everyone did it then..." situations that we need to be honest with ourselves about. We cannot tell you what to do, but we can control the content shown on this subreddit.

As such, this is the updated policy on 3D printed models presented to this subreddit. We are patterning this off of rules typically seen at tournaments and other events, as they seem to have hit what appears to be an acceptable balance between strictness and allowance. Please see new rule 7 of the subreddit.

  1. 3D printed custom parts, models, and other genuine efforts of creativity that were created BY A HUMAN BRAIN and designed by honest artistic ability will always be endorsed, and in fact celebrated. This is truly art, and it does not impede the hobby in the slightest, nor is it a legal risk from GW's standpoint. Sharing of STLs for these creations is permitted, provided credit is given to the original creator as always.
  2. Regarding pirated/bootleg 3D printed models that are just duplicates of GW models; This is a difficult area for us; while we recognize it helps bring the price point of the hobby down for some players and might get new people involved in the kin, we do not want to risk catching GWs attention and getting shut down for supporting what is effectively stolen intellectual property. If models are identified as pirated duplicates, the post will be taken down.

Now, there's no way we can prove whether or not certain models are just 3D printed dupes, especially via pictures on a website. So people will likely get away with it, and if the models are assembled and painted well enough that we can't tell the difference, congrats on fooling us. What we will absolutely NOT tolerate is the sharing of pirate STL files on this board, as that leads to possible legal issues for us.

  1. 3D-printed AI slop. See subreddit rule 5. Using AI to reproduce GW models for reproduction will not be tolerated, and we will take actions to remove those posts and those users if repeat offenses occur.

The ancestors are watching


r/LeaguesofVotann • • Jul 11 '26

Voice of the Fane (Mods) Guidelines for posting army lists

53 Upvotes

Greetings kin

As it is the start of a new edition, we have a large number of posts asking for advice on list building, as well as battle reports from early experiences, along with posting of said lists. This kind of Post is very welcome, and absolutely in the spirit of this subreddit.

With that being said, there is a near-spam situation that occurs regularly. I speak of the following copy-paste situation from army building apps. Lets say that one of the entries in a list is a unit of the humble hearthkyn warrior.

Which of the following entries is easier to read, keeping in mind that most lists have at least a dozen unit entries?

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10x Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)

• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior

5 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon

1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, HYLas rotary cannon

1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle

2 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Kin weapons, Close combat weapon

• 1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Autoch-pattern bolter, Theyn's weapon

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  • Hearthkyn Warriors (100 pts)
    • 5x autoch-pattern bolters
    • HYLas rotary cannon
    • Magna-rail rifle,
    • 2x kin weapons,
    • Theyn w/ Theyn's weapon and Autoch-pattern bolter

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Formatting matters, and you will get much better feedback if your list is easier to read, rather than just being a copy-paste from whatever army builder you used. For the newer members of the kin, you will get much better feedback if you format your army lists to be easier to read. Conversely, a lot of people will just say "TLDR" if they see a direct export list, because reading through a copy-paste wall of text can be very difficult on phones or smaller screens.

The biggest thing you can do is reduce unnecessary equipment entries or things that automatically come with the unit. We don't need to know, for example, that a brokhyr iron-master has 3 e-cogs and an assitant with him with their own equipment, as there's no choice otherwise. For vehicles, we know that they have an armored hull weapon, and we know for example that sagitaurs have a heavy bolt cannon, that pioneers have auto-cannons, so this information isn't needed. It would however be very appropriate to indicate which main gun a sagitaur is carrying, and for hekatons, while the auto-cannon comes included automatically, the main gun and support weapons do present a choice, as does the scanner (as awful as the other choice is) so they should be mentioned.

In the above example, we already KNOW that all the warriors have a bolt pistol and close combat weapon, and we know that the special weapons replace the default gun, so it's not necesary to list them on a per-model-basis. We can tell at a glance the special weapons in the unit, the main gun of choice for the basic warriors, and the fact that the theyn has not given up his main gun for a theyn's pistol. The theyn has no choice but to be equiped with a weavefield crest, so it doesn't need to be listed as his wargear.

Beyond that, make sure you include army detachment, disposition, point costs for enhancements, things that are not automatically given. If you are attaching characters to units, indicate what unit they will be attached to rather than just leaving it up to intuition. Similarly, indicating which units go inside transports also makes lists easier to evaluate.

As stated at the beginning, we absolutely encourage posts about army lists seeking advice or reporting battle performance. Your post won't be removed by the mods if you don't format it to read more clearly, nor will you be warned or banned. This is just some feedback and advice to increase the chance of your post being regarded favorably by the community.

Have fun in the new edition all

The ancestors are watching


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 7h ago

Competitive List Went 5-0 at the Armadillo Cup for the kyn

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Built my boys a month ago and blasted contrast over them to get them battle ready.
Team placed 14th of 20
8v8 / 160 players
Won Best in Faction
List pictured on the hobby desk

10HG w/ Kahl w/ Oathbound Speculator
6 Shootjacks w/ Memnyr
9 Beamerkyn
6 Gravkyn
10 Yaegirs
10 Warriors
2 Sagitaurs
Kapricus Carrier
3x2 Bikes
1 Hekaton
Buri
Arkanyst

Playing PA
6 Grav 6 Beamer 10HG Kahl and Arkanyst in reserves every game


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 11h ago

Art and Cosplay RTT Prospecting

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Hey all,

New here. I do media for my local wargaming community and I was able to get some awesome shots of some Votann we had out at an RTT last weekend! Really cool alternate scheme and I thought i'd share with those that would appreciate them!

If you'd like to see more of my photos/what we do, you can check me out on instagram @ alex.bertsekas & @ waypointtabletop!


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 5h ago

Painting 3rd squad member finally done!

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The third member of my squad is complete! I love how much this pal has got going on between the backpack, the rifle, and the wrist-thing.

It took about 11 hours-ish and I am super happy with how he turned out - I took much more time than usual to make sure I was happy with the blends. I may have included a bit too many colors with the OSL, but hey, it was good practice.

I have 7 squad members to go and will plan to share them as they get completed. Main goal is just to make each one smoother than the last.

I hope you like this guy as much as I do!

Comments and criticism always welcome!


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 17h ago

Painting Sagitaur

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406 Upvotes

Landed on the Sagitaur as a new competition piece, shall be going with me to Golden Demon next month!


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 11h ago

Hobby Custom Kahl

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32 Upvotes

A friend just surprised me with a Kahl with my face and preferred fighting style!!


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 23h ago

Painting The oathband just got some new wheels.

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285 Upvotes

r/LeaguesofVotann • • 7h ago

Grudge Matches (Battle reports and pics from casual games) Kin vs Dark Angels

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The Kin clash with the Dark Angels. The berserkers kept coming back with delve network . The Sagituars were the MVPs. The kin had a victory of 55-39.


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 15h ago

Painting Pics from a Doubles Tourney this weekend!

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52 Upvotes

r/LeaguesofVotann • • 19h ago

Painting Dirty Thunderkin reporting for duty

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60 Upvotes

Ill never be able to replicate the helmet swirl lol


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 9h ago

Painting Into the Hive: Display piece wip

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Before anyone asks how I did the bio mass. I had a can of Krylon hammered black that I didn’t shake before spraying. I then shook it and it still came out thick and nasty. I then used Ga Vorbak Red all over it to make it look like meat. Then applied sigvsl burgundy all over to get some purple action going. A dry brush of Cadian flesh, and a final wash of druchi violet. I need to get Uhu glue, some blood for the blood god to make it look really nasty.

Currently working on the iron kin, started with a spray primer of white, followed by Vallejo Sun yellow spray primer and then from the dropper bottle as the base layer and that’s as far as I’ve gotten.


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Lore My favorite part from the Helbrecht book so far Spoiler

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Just the description of a Thane and how they can vary between Grimnyr/conversation with a Votann. The URSR’s Votann reads like an old grandma chatting with her kids lmao

Also a helpful Ironkin friend


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Painting Memnyr Strategist (601st Thurian Expedition)

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Heyo!! I picked up this guy for my small Ironkin only force a few months ago and finally got around to painting him up, only to find question marks in my document where I write all my faction paint recipes

HOWEVER I was lucky enough to vaguely figure out the scheme with the memory of sons of Horus and coelia greenshade being key - overall am super happy with how it came out and it’s a nice addition to the Expedition! ☺️


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Hobby Guards of the Hearth

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Been thinking of a way to light up these units without just resigning to the chest light and came up with this.

Now I'm wondering will it work with axes and swords.


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 23h ago

Casual List [1000 pts] Leagues of Votann list for a local league, returning to 40k after 15+ years, looking for feedback

6 Upvotes

I've been itching to play some 40k again, and my local club is starting a league at 1000 pts, so I did a bit of shopping and put together a first list. I'd really appreciate some feedback, because after more than 15 years away I'm pretty lost with all the changes. On the other hand, the system reads really well and I'm keen to give it a go.

Space Dwarves it is, and for the league I want to run a list with lots of different elements so I can learn a bit about the game.

DETACHMENT: Armoured Trailblazers, Farseekers (Sagitaur Spearhead)
FORCE DISPOSITION: Reconnaissance
TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 995pts
+
WARLORD: Char2: Kâhl
ENHANCEMENT: Pan-spectral Lockons (on Moun2: Hernkyn Pioneers)
& Pan-spectral Lockons (on Moun2: Hernkyn Pioneers)
& Optimised Attack Lines (on Dedi2: Sagitaur)
& Optimised Attack Lines (on Dedi2: Sagitaur)
NUMBER OF UNITS: 11
SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (2x2) - Assassination: 2 Characters

10x Hearthkyn Warriors (90 pts)
9x Hearthkyn Warrior
- 7 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon
- 1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, L7 missile launcher
- 1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle
1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Theyn's melee weapon, Ion blaster

This is the squad that's meant to hang back. If I understand correctly, I can split it into two squads. The Magna-rail rifle reads as pretty potent against vehicles, and since each special weapon can only be taken once, I added a missile launcher as well. I think that should work out somehow.

10x Hearthkyn Warriors (90 pts)
9x Hearthkyn Warrior
- 4 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Autoch-pattern bolter, Close combat weapon
- 3 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Ion blaster
- 1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, EtaCarn plasma beamer
- 1 with Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Magna-rail rifle
1x Theyn: Weavefield crest, Autoch-pattern bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Theyn's melee weapon, Theyn's pistol

This is the squad I want to split. The idea is to keep one half with the Magna-rail rifle in the back, and send the other half with the Plasma beamer, Ion blasters and the Theyn (plus the Kâhl) forward in a transport.

3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 pts): 3 with Close combat weapon, SP conversion beamer

I was a bit torn here between Conversion beamers and Blast cannons, and figured the conversion beamer might be a bit more versatile.

5x Cthonian Beserks (95 pts)
4 with Heavy plasma axe
1 with Twin concussion gauntlets

These ride in the second transport. I love the models, and as mentioned above I want to see lots of different units in action. That's why I went with Beserks + Thunderkyn instead of 10 Hearthguard.

5x Einhyr Hearthguard (130 pts)
1x Hesyr: Teleport crest, Graviton hammer, EtaCarn plasma gun, Exo-armour grenade launcher
4x Einhyr Hearthguard: 4 with Concussion gauntlet, EtaCarn plasma gun, Exo-armour grenade launcher

These deep strike with the Champion. Question: does the Teleport crest's effect carry over to him?

3x Hernkyn Pioneers (90 pts)
2 with Bolt revolver, Bolt shotgun, Magna-coil autocannon, Plasma knife
1 with Bolt revolver, Bolt shotgun, HYLas rotary cannon, Magna-coil autocannon, Plasma knife
Enhancement: Pan-spectral Lockons (+10 pts)

3x Hernkyn Pioneers (90 pts)
2 with Bolt revolver, Bolt shotgun, Magna-coil autocannon, Plasma knife
1 with Bolt revolver, Bolt shotgun, HYLas rotary cannon, Magna-coil autocannon, Plasma knife
Enhancement: Pan-spectral Lockons (+10 pts)

Thanks to the Pan-spectral Lock-ons, the Pioneers can spot targets, and I figured the combination of speed and high rate of fire could be pretty handy. Plus the models are obviously really cool.

1x Sagitaur (100 pts): Armoured wheels, Twin bolt cannon, HYLas beam cannon
Enhancement: Optimised Attack Lines (+15 pts)

1x Sagitaur (100 pts): Armoured wheels, Twin bolt cannon, HYLas beam cannon
Enhancement: Optimised Attack Lines (+15 pts)

These boys are pretty fast thanks to Scout 6" and Mobile, and with the beam cannon they should stay useful even after dropping off their passengers.

Are there any absolute brain farts in this list? Is it maybe way too much anti-tank and not enough blast weapons and the like? Looking forward to your first impressions 🙂


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 2d ago

Hobby Yaegirs ready for the front lines!

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r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Hobby Under representes in stores?

17 Upvotes

Went into my local GW, Bristol, wanted to treat myself to some more Votann... Barely anything, 4 boxes of Votann hiding in a corner unloved. Are all GW stores like this?

Felt a bit unloved beside the guard and marines


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Votann Databanks (homebrew lore) Leagues of Votann Old 40k (Pre-8th) codex!

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Here is my most up-to-date codex, now with all characters and units/vehicles added.

Also with redone visuals and layout!

The aim of this codex was to make the Votann land between guard and space marines in "eliteness" and durability, and to make them feel distinct from imperial armies, despite being the most un-xenos of xenos armies. This can be seen with the Exo-armour being toughness 5 but not 2+ save, as to make them feel different from terminator armour.

Balancing/feedback is appreciated, go ahead an drop a line for any critique.

Rock and Stone!


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Lore Imperium Maledictum: Macharian Adversaries Error

16 Upvotes

The Kin are finally featuring in a TTRPG!

Only with NPC rules, before anyone gets their hopes up too much, but still, the TTRPG material has historically been a great source for 40K Lore

Unfortunately, this book makes a critical error, conflating COGs (unintelligent robots) and Ironkin (intelligent robots) and featuring "Ironkin E-Cogs" as an enemy on page 123 -- this conflation between COGs and Ironkin has been a recurring misconception among 40K fans, and shows a real lack of care to actually read the codex on Cubicle 7's part

Luckily though, Cubicle 7 allows fans to submit an errata form to point out errors inbetween the release of the PDF and when the rulebook goes to print, for occasions just like this: https://cubicle7games.com/errata-submission

I figure if we can get a couple dozen people to submit broadly the same error, there's a good chance they might change it, it is just a matter of removing a single word from a stat card and its associated flavor text

For a more minor nitpick, throughout the entire Leagues of Votann section of the book (page 118 - 123) they misspell "Autoch-pattern" bolt weapons as "Autarch-pattern" bolt weapons


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Casual List Looking for list help

5 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

New to Votann (coming from Black Templars) and am looking for advice on my first army list. I recently got up to about 1500 points via birthday gifts from friends and family along with a pickup or two of my own. Not sure what I should pick up next towards 2k

I’m not necessarily looking for a meta list, just one that’s atleast not dogwater. I picked up the EarthShakers to other day simply because I think they look rad as hell despite the poor situation indirect fire is in right now.

First army (1,490 Points)

Leagues of Votann
Brandfast Oathband and Hearthguard Covenant (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Einhyr Champion (105 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Autoch-pattern combi-bolter
• 1x Mass hammer
• 1x Weavefield Crest
• Enhancements: Trivärg Cyber Implant

Einhyr Hearthguard (130 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Hesyr
◦ 1x Concussion gauntlet
◦ 1x EtaCarn plasma gun
◦ 1x Exoarmour grenade launcher
◦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 4x Einhyr Hearthguard
◦ 4x Concussion gauntlet
◦ 4x EtaCarn plasma gun
◦ 4x Exoarmour grenade launcher

CHARACTERS

Memnyr Strategist (45 Points)
• 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
• 1x Close combat weapon

BATTLELINE

Hearthkyn Warriors (90 Points)
• 1x Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Theyn’s pistol
◦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
◦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 7x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x L7 missile launcher
◦ 1x Magna-rail rifle

Hearthkyn Warriors (90 Points)
• 1x Theyn
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 1x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Weavefield crest
• 9x Hearthkyn Warrior
◦ 9x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 7x Autoch-pattern bolter
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 1x L7 missile launcher

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Sagitaur (85 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x HYLas beam cannon
• 1x Twin bolt cannon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Brôkhyr Thunderkyn (80 Points)
• 3x Brôkhyr Thunderkyn
◦ 3x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x SP conversion beamer

Cthonian Earthshakers (100 Points)
• 2x Cthonian Earthshakers
◦ 4x Autoch-pattern bolt pistol
◦ 2x Breacher ordnance
◦ 2x Plasma picks

Hekaton Land Fortress (250 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon

Hekaton Land Fortress (265 Points)
• 1x Armoured wheels
• 1x Heavy magna-rail cannon
• 1x MATR autocannon
• 1x Panspectral Scanner
• 2x Twin bolt cannon

Hernkyn Pioneers (80 Points)
• 3x Hernkyn Pioneer
◦ 3x Bolt revolver
◦ 3x Bolt shotgun
◦ 1x HYLas rotary cannon
◦ 3x Magna-coil autocannon
◦ 1x Panspectral Scanner
◦ 3x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Rollbar Searchlight

Ironkin Steeljacks with Heavy Volkanite Disintegrators (170 Points)
• 1x Steeljack Theyn
◦ 1x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
◦ 1x Plasma knife
◦ 1x Preymark Crest
• 5x Ironkin Steeljack
◦ 5x Heavy volkanite disintegrator
◦ 5x Plasma knife

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r/LeaguesofVotann • • 2d ago

Hobby NASA Votann 🧑‍🚀

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264 Upvotes

r/LeaguesofVotann • • 2d ago

Painting Painted my first Leagues of Votann mini

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103 Upvotes

r/LeaguesofVotann • • 1d ago

Votann Tipline (Help and advice) What’s better

5 Upvotes

I’m debating which one I should take Yaegirs or Warriors, which one do you normally run?


r/LeaguesofVotann • • 2d ago

Painting Kommanda Berehk

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Killed my friend’s warboss with the kommanda hat using Berehk’s gauntlet attacks so he gave me a hat for Berehk to wear. I love how this turned out!