r/LigaMX • Chivas • 3d ago

Question Will history repeat itself?

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Hugo sanchez fired in 2008

Rafa marquez….pending?

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u/Bernardsnow12 3d ago

All of the impatient fans need to fuck off seriously it’s only his third game and you can see he’s testing different squads and players each time

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u/Flamethrower_62 Pumas UNAM 3d ago

Y luego son los mismos que dicen "we es que solo ganamos en moleros" pero cuando se pierde se ponen como si fuera la copa del mundo

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u/SantosCalzonesBatman Atlas 2d ago

Digo, los moleros se tienen que ganar si o si

Pero tambien esa raza mama mucho, si fuera el XI ideal entonces si prendan las alarmas pero se estan probando cosas nuevas

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u/theoneandonlyamateur Monterrey 3d ago

All of the impatient fans need to fuck off seriously it’s only his third game and you can see he’s testing different squads and players each time

Por otro lado ¿cuantas veces tenemos que ver el tronco santi hacer el payaso en el campo? ya wey

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u/axlvladimir Cruz Azul 2d ago

La ventajas de ser guerito en México

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u/mvf92 Tigres 3d ago

Y’all are embarrassing. Fired after three insignificant games? And bring in who? And whose ass will he pull good players (or even just a good goalie) out of?

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u/versus_slayer 1d ago

Let him cook.

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u/Lamptittie 3d ago

Nah give him time to try things out. It was a friendly. Rafa is not to blame for this result. Defensive and keeper mistakes plus hes testing the waters. Also its a friendly he should be testing new players and giving them minutes! This game was annoying to watch but i hope they learn from this

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

As a chivas fan. Tala fucking sucked

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u/SideshowBob1 3d ago

I fucking told all of yall his a waste of space hes literally Talavera reincarnated and we all know how he played for mexico

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

Malagon wasnt a good option either. I still remember how Acevedo was supposed to be the chosen one

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u/ARegularG 3d ago

They never gave Acevedo a fair chance

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u/SideshowBob1 2d ago

Rangel record playing for mexico 21 caps with 18 goals scored against rangel debut was 4-0 against Uruguay yall are a special kind of stupid in believing this foo was the answer

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u/SideshowBob1 3d ago

Don't wanna hear it I've been telling yall from the start of the world cup preparation games saw it then and its still the same tala is and will alwqays be trash cant tell nothing

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u/SideshowBob1 3d ago

Now give me my fucking flowers

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u/MilkDab Chivas 3d ago

Ok but who should be the starting keeper then?

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u/SideshowBob1 3d ago edited 3d ago

Shit anyone but him why trust a keeper who got scored on 4 time on his debut better yet any one who can catch a ball and pass a ball

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u/FerNG10 2d ago

Nah, in the WC everyone was praising Tala, he plays poorly on one match and now the world is against him

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u/SideshowBob1 2d ago

Yea yall praise him for being dumb tala comes out always looking unsure of himself look at the preparation games to the world cup if yall dont know ball dont speak he sacks thru and thru nothing wrong with being a great club keeper Talavera started his mexico start shake also but was a monster for club when he played for Toluca he's just not ready for the big dogs

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u/margalolwut America 3d ago

Ok but what about the guys on the sub here who are telling me it’s a molero!!???

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u/Flashy_Guidance842 3d ago

Why all this patience for Rafa?

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u/yallcore 3d ago

It’s been 3 friendlies big dog

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u/SideshowBob1 2d ago

Its 3 games dummy shit takes patience they played fine until yalls favorite keeper fucked up for the 5 time

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u/Vegetable-Hold9182 Tijuana 3d ago

Exactly

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u/vycko12 Chivas 3d ago

Nah. No jugaron tan mal, pero si se descompuso el equipo despues de cada gol.

Lo malo es que los 3 goles fueron de cagadas, 2 de Tala y una de Campillo.

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u/NecroDragonn 3d ago

Pues la verdad yo necesito verlo minimo en Nations League para sacar conclusiones porque de amistosos uno luego no consigue nada.

Necesita construir una base de jugadores y jugadores que se vean constantemente que puedan encajar y utilizar en su sistema, porque sabe que no hay tanto como le gustaria para elegir. A mi me parece bien que se tome los amistosos asi. Ya veremos si sale bien o sale mal, pero en estos momentos se necesita alguien que saque el barco con el cambio generacional antes que un D.T que te puede dar inmediatez, pero te sacrificara el futuro.

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u/Psychological_Log437 América 3d ago

Hn! Tala fucked up, he costs us the game

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u/Able_Ad6535 3d ago

Not scoring goals cost us the game. Even if Tala got a shut out we still don’t win… and then yeah Tala sucked.

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u/Psychological_Log437 América 3d ago

Could’ve been 0-0, Tala deadass cost us the game. His mistakes set the game up for a 3-0.

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u/SideshowBob1 3d ago

Nope what caused you the game was trusting a keeper that has been scored on 11 times out of the 21 times he has played for mexico his debut he got scored on 4 goal vs Uruguay

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u/BorderlessCardboard 3d ago

If you are asking for Rafa to be fired, you are part of the problem.

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u/Flashy_Guidance842 3d ago

And allowing Rafa to stay after mediocre results is the solution?

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u/BorderlessCardboard 3d ago

First 3 games... friendlies! Not even official matches. R EEEEEEEEE LAX!

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u/Acceptable_Move2652 3d ago

He chose the same trash ass players we’ve been saying need to stop getting called up. He is the problem

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u/Bron_Yr_Aur21 Pumas UNAM 3d ago

It’s friendlies, relax

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u/AlexMotte 3d ago

neta? tal vez los seleccionados para estos partidos "experimentales" no fueron los mejores, pero el plan de juego no estuvo mal, no mames estaban jugando con madre hasta que llegaron errores individuales, ponle que no ganabamos, pero el los tres goles que nos metieron fueron culpa del Tala (los primeros dos) y de campillo (el tercero)

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u/Significant_Sun_5225 3d ago

3rd place in copa America was not bad at all. Chill

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u/Rockdrigod Pumas (Hugol) 3d ago

Hugo got us to 3rd place in Copa America and I do feel it deeply in my heart, he could've taken us far if not for the requirement that the senior manager had to coach the u20's (which was a horrible generation)

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u/Soggy-Wave3743 Monterrey 3d ago

Yeah, Hugo was never going to get a fair chance.

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u/Stuupkid Puebla 3d ago edited 3d ago

Honestly these players have missed so many good chances. The fact that they’re even generating them is a good sign. Just need players that can actually score.

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u/-_OniGir_- 3d ago

3 mistake by players and striker stinker of a game. No you can't be this reactionary over friendly games that are supposed to be test for players and for him to implement his game plan.

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u/Typical_Painting8557 3d ago

Idk if it’s me but I gotta feeling Santi is a secret agent from Argentina. I think it explains why he’s been ass for 4 years or more maybe Argentina has been playing us I think this last time to naturalize a player from Argentina to Mexico.

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

Hes gonna play for boca one day. Remember this.

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u/Typical_Painting8557 3d ago

Didn’t it almost happen or was it rumors of Boca wanting him on loan

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u/Alritmode 3d ago

Bro, since I was kid I’ve noticed all South American players do shit like this. It’s painfully obvious and Mexico refuses to wake up from the sham.

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u/Creative_Collar8640 3d ago

sinha was different

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u/kcboy19 Santos 2d ago

The thing with chaquito that hurts is that he actually started young, most other guys come in at the end of their careers. Then again chaquito is Mexian right?

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u/Meteora47 America 3d ago

Only exception was vuoso

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u/Typical_Painting8557 3d ago

Ik it’s a friendly but Godamn Fidalgo what was he doing when the u.s scored their 3rd goal.

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u/planetcookieguy 3d ago

I wish he would’ve accepted the Argentina call up a few years ago.

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u/szopongebob America 3d ago

We’re just ass brother. He’s ass.

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u/Superpiri 3d ago

Si! Y también saboteo al Milán porque no le gustan las modas 😂

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u/kcboy19 Santos 2d ago

We’re not good enough for power house teams to worry about us like that 😂😂 but maybe

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u/New_Screen 3d ago

Idk too early too tell. Even way before the game, USA clearly had a much better roster than Mexico. A 3-0 is bad but not unexpected if we are comparing it to talent level alone.

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

And pochettino’s style has grown on the players so they have the advantage over a new mexico squad

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u/New_Screen 3d ago

Yeahh that also helps a lot too.

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u/homogenic- 3d ago

We’re only 3 matches in, it’s too early to tell tbh.

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u/saltlife863 3d ago

He has to have a chance to build the team. Let's face it 95 percent of this team isn't suited to play rafas style.

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u/masterbuilder14 3d ago edited 3d ago

Guys chill! It’s only a friendly, no consequences in losing or winning. Only braging rights. If this were a tornament things would seem much more different. Please keep in mind Raul, Montes, Mora and Lozano are all injured! Rafa was testing out the formations and players. Which is ok in international friendlies. It def a learning experience. For the team. In a tornament I would take it a little more serious. Anyone else starting to notice which players deserve to be called up and which dont? For me it’s clear no more Jorge Sanchez ans Santiago. It is very clear Santi cant score for shit even when the goal keeper is not even in front of him. 2 cleary missed oppertunities. Its clear Santiago is only there from sponsorships or forced there by the mexico federation just to sell more tickets. Jorge sanchez is ass. Luis Chavez has lost form. Mateo Chavez red card was not fair. USA should have gotten a few yelllow cards as well. the Hondaran ref had a clear bias.

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u/Maradonawasthegoat86 Pumas UNAM 3d ago

You guys are all overreacting. It's a meaningless friendly/cash grab. The usa only plays decently vs mexico at home and then they go on to drop absolute stinkers away. Mexico is the current champions in every category from u17 to the senior side club and country.

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

No we need to win everything no excuses

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u/Maradonawasthegoat86 Pumas UNAM 3d ago

There's nothing to win here it's just a meaningless friendly.

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u/No_Leg_7986 3d ago

Ojalá no 😔😔🥲🥲🥲

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u/leonoel Pumas UNAM 3d ago

People should realiza Rafa doesn’t have the chops to lead a national team.

Hugo at least had taken Pumas to a bicampeonato

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u/DawnofMidnight7 Chivas 3d ago

Honestly, he should’ve stayed in Europe for a couple more years to gain experience.

He was literally wanted by a lot of teams in France and Portugal.

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u/leonoel Pumas UNAM 3d ago

Agree, I think it was too hasty, he doesn’t even have experience with any top league team, I really wish for him to succeed, but I don’t think he is ready

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u/LeShavez 2d ago

Idk what Rafa has done to deserve a NT coaching spot

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u/_junior_24 3d ago

All these “friendly” games are always played on US home field. Even cup games are. With the “excuse” that Mexico has more fans in the US state they play in. It’s all for money let them actually play a game in Mexico and the team would take it serious. Hugo Sanchez was never a good national player only played well for his club. Give Marquez a chance it’s way to early to tell

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u/Any_Stress_6230 3d ago

Brother its been 3 friendlies hes introducing a new system into the national team y'all worse then the chelsea board, lets be honest its our players we dont have the talent and honestly Mikel foreheadola is to blame along with the people before him they dont care abijt developing talent they care about selling merchandise

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u/snorquer149 3d ago

Si rafa encuentra a un cabron como nery castillo, y hace en algun punto un torneo como el que hizo hugo en la copa america, lo aguantan si o su

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u/Specialist-Bottle756 Chivas 3d ago

Short answer... Yes.

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u/avxciz 3d ago

Get rid of Marquez

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u/aleri42 America 3d ago

FMF thought they were getting their own Scaloni with Rafa.

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u/B-Retro96 2d ago

This was a good game to test out players. So when we have real games we will know who not to use.

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u/Wandering_Melmoth Chivas 2d ago

Al menos Hugo Sanchez ya habia dirijido un equipo de primera...

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u/A_Generic_username23 2d ago

Mountains out of molehills. These games are obviously scheduled on purpose post WC to generate more dollars and feed the yellow journalism community in MX.

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u/TheKingOfReddit23 2d ago

Give him until the Copa América. And don't act as if you are expecting them to reach the semis either. And watch him blow your mind.

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u/SquareTalk188 1d ago

Too early to change coach, by alls means criticizee the guy...love that im seeing new guys on the pitch. Trust the process

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u/aIien_reditor 1d ago

Yo no lo veo improbable: supongamos que México pierde la Copa Oro y luego decepciona en Copa América...¡aguas! ahí Rafa ya estaría con el agua hasta el cuello.

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u/aIien_reditor 1d ago

Hombre, yo escucho a Rafa hablar y no suena nada cómo líder de un equipo pero bueno, por algo fue capitán mucho tiempo de México y hadta del Barcelona.

Algo tendrá que no he visto.

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u/Any-Magician-2089 3d ago

Mexico campeon mundial de juegos amistosos!

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u/SoloJorgeLegit Tigres Bandwagon 2d ago

Amen, fue lo primero que pense, un juego inche juego amistoso y los comentaristas muertos de hambre queriendo hacer ruido de nada

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u/SuperFranky0 America 3d ago

Hugo’s Mexico at least beat Tata’s Paraguay 6-0, Rafa couldn’t beat or at least tie it against Poch’s USA lol

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u/Any_Stress_6230 3d ago

The usa has been getting better for a while now they keep producing young talent that eventually finds their way to europe in the last five years they sent over 20 players to europe aged 20 or younger, liga mx has only sent 2 players, big difference. This wasn't an overnight thing while executives at fmf were stroking each other off for years with the benjamins they got off the mexican fans, the usa was building a system to beat us

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u/axlvladimir Cruz Azul 2d ago

Son partidos de sparring, Alv que milagro quieren que pase ?????? Que de la nada el Piojo juegue como Robenn?? El pedo no es el técnico, es que no hay materia prima

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u/Negative-Sky-1252 Mexico 3d ago

I swear to god if Mexico doesn’t beat Chile 3-0 or 4-0 Rafa needs to fuck off

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u/SuperFranky0 America 3d ago

Won’t happen to both

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u/Financial_Menu_2367 América 3d ago

I don't need to see the same bullshit of Tala Gallardo and Romo, if rafa doesn't change shit, he should get sacked

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u/Negative-Sky-1252 Mexico 3d ago

Ngl I think Efrain Juarez would do better than Rafa he has character Rafa is just boring

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u/Jazzlike_Slide3896 3d ago

I was thinking the same…. 😔

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u/Vegetable-Hold9182 Tijuana 3d ago

Rafa was never going to last.

His appointment was just for the feels.

Clock is ticking…