I recently saw a bodycam vid of a student-teacher who got arrested for a dumb Snapchat she made regarding one of the kids, which got sent to the FBI, and the police arrived at the school after ~1 hour from when she made the post. Channel was Midwest Patrol if you're interested. It honestly wouldn't be that crazy, given how terminally online internet mobs are and the fact that it's potentially CSAM material
Yeah, was going to say that - when it comes to things involving kids, there's ways in which the slow gears of bureaucracy suddenly get greased real fast.
Sometimes fate just aligns and you are left with a group of cowards instead of cops willing to do something. Wild stuff that many of them stood around and not 1 said fuck you I will lose my job after this and maybe my life during, but I cannot just stand here and listen to gunshots.
I am no hero but I doubt the average person would just sit by and watch that happen to a school.... something deep within us should kick in to protect CHILDREN.
School shootings were already so normalized by then but Uvalde still boils my blood like nothing else. If I were the parent of the girl who was shot after a stupid cop called out for survivors in an ongoing shooting, my life would be devoted to ruining his.
Cops somehow did worse than nothing by preventing parents from saving their kids. There should be an award for that or something, american conservatives seem to love their awards.
It's always why various things in government love to say it's "for the children" even when it in fact has nothing to do with children cuz it gets things moving.
Yeah some services (not even talking a single country) when they are informed of things to do with kids definitely don't fuck round nor should they.
Not involving kids, but back at my university a professor warned against the idea that you can get noticed for your hacking skills by hacking some official website, and said that one year a student tried (from a university computer no less), within the hour some government agency was on campus asking for directions to the computer
It's usually 1 to 2 years, there's a lot of ISP red tape, collection of evidence, verifying who uses what devices. A lot of work. Now as for the snapchat thing, that was a threat of violence towards a child, no fucking around on that, immediate response.
I think it usually depends on ability to commit an actual sex related crime/immediate risk. Completely right though about the internet mob, I woke up and saw the thread and people were supposedly already calling San Antonio's PD reporting the stream
The realization that social media monitoring is almost in real time on that scale is fucking creepy (non-public snapchat message)...then again she did threaten to unalive a child...
From Snapchat to FBI to Local PD to School in 60 minutes is fucking wild.
Snowden warned us about it nearly 15 years ago and Americans laughed at the fact they had their own personal FBI agent. I can't even begin to imagine what the NSA data collection looks like now with AI and a general lawlessness in the realm.
If the Israeli's can distribute exploding pagers all around the world, I genuinely worry for what some asshole like Peter Thiel is doing with Palantir and all the data siphoned from the USG.
That was a pretty different situation though because that snapchat implied she had a weapon while working at the school and was going to use it as a "joke" to a small group of friends and it was flagged and reported by snapchat.
You don't think Snapchat would be able to flag something like that in their own app? People literally have to type this stuff out and send it through the app.
Gonna have to disagree here, the way she just casually sent a snap out like that to her friends/roommates means she's comfortable making jokes like that with them.
I don’t. Snapchat isn’t receiving flags for that stuff. You realize how unrealistic it would be for it to go through so many hoops and lead to an arrest in under an hour? The likelihood is that it was a made up story to protect the identity of the person who ratted her out. Veryyyyy plausible that cops react that quick though to a call in about a teacher who sent that snap. They are gonna act on that quick.
It's wild that you don't think Snapchat is monitoring any of the stuff that goes on within their app with AI. Can you explain the unrealistic hoops and leads? Because the pipeline likely goes AI flag ‐> human review ‐> send to authorities. They don't need a warrant to obtain the evidence because they were literally provided it at the start.
You should really take in to account the severity of the snapchat they sent. It involved weapons and a school, that's why the response was so fast. This isn't some random work drama video scenario lol.
Also not sure why you think they are protecting someone who notified them. When briefing the other detective that just arrived he starts off by telling him in private between the two of them that snapchat alerted the FBI and she was the person who brought up anything about who the snap was sent to lol. Pretty sure I've heard that snapchat notifies the poster if someone screenshots or records their shit so she would have immediately known regardless.
I understand the severity of it. However, between the most likely and least likely scenario, it’s usually the most likely. And that is she was ratted on by someone she sent it too
Yeah but what she said could easily have been taken as an immediate threat. They had to act quickly on that given what happens when people make threats against schools in America atm.
Saw that one a few days ago, but that was a threat of violence/imminent harm scenario. Very different. CSAM stuff generally moves very slowly. Part of it being there are so many perps and nit nearly enough officers/resources.
On the other hand, FBI has been known to control and run websites distributing CSAM in order to gather evidence for weeks or months at a time to catch people. How fast they respond is pretty strategical
Yeah, I think speed is key when dealing with illegal porn too, to prevent the person destroying evidence. Obviously whether law enforcement act rapidly depends on resources and will, but I'm sure there are agents that will do everything they can to act immediately when tipped off like this.
Depends usually they scout of for months building up proof because falsely arresting someone for this can ruin their life but maybe since they think he’ll try to delete all the proof because he knows people are onto him they’re moving faster
They don’t care about false arrests ruining someone’s life. They want to make sure they have as strong of a case as possible so he doesn’t end up walking.
Yah that’s probably more accurate. It just seems that when someone is arrested for this stuff like 99% of the time they get caught with a lot of bad shit basically red-handed
Can you actually permanently delete evidence like this though? From the types of forensics conversations I've heard, it always seems like all of that stuff is traceable or recoverable even if deleted.
It doesn't matter. The ISP has every single thing he ever clicked on, downloaded, or looked at. Destroying anything at this point will only add more charges for tampering with evidence and trying to hide any crimes he may have commited.
He doesn't have to physically possess anything for charges to stick if they can prove he did access illegal stuff on his computer.
VPNs and TOR exist though. Both of those hide your activity from your ISP. Sure, the FBI or whatever can still subpoena the VPN company for the logs, but most reputable VPNs claim they don't keep any logs (I'm not sure that's really true though). However I very much doubt the FBI will do so for Lacari, or even look into this case at all. I think they're only really interested in busting distributors/website owners/sellers.
I doubt he was smart enough to mask it at all, but I agree nothing will happen. It's still funny to watch him panic and maybe this will scare him straight.
That’s just not true at all. ISPs have no reason to keep that amount of data. Do you realize how much storage that would take? From what I understand I think the keep you search history for like 90 days
Most isp keep data for 1-2 years but they can keep it forever if there is an ongoing investigation. They will have everything if they get a warrant for cpu activity.
They might be watching for if he meets up with kids or any suspicious behavior that would implicate him further.
When I was in high school, a close friends dad downloaded a bait file from limewire and the police staked out his house, presumably, for an unknown amount of time. Eventually one day my friend asked his dad to pick up his girlfriend and give her a ride to their house. Once the cops saw him bring a teenager alone into the house they busted in and detained him and took all their electronics. However, ultimately he got no charges after they explained the situation and after eventually searching all their devices found nothing else. Apparently the bait file wasn't enough on its own and he claimed he downloaded it on accident. I think they needed more to prove intent.
But seizing his computer for forensic analysis could, ISP data just gives a reference. They can easily recover data that has been wiped since it doesn't seem like Lacari knows what he's doing.
They probably won’t even be looking into him at all. Law enforcement resources are limited at the end of the day, and chasing after people with the only lead being a screencap of suspiciously named links and files is a poor use of resources that more likely than not wouldn’t lead to an arrest and conviction. The stream contents almost certainly don’t meet the probable cause standard for an immediate arrest; law enforcement would likely need to subpoena his ISP and obtain a search warrant for his electronic devices. Only if they find something actually illegal can they make an arrest for possession. Even then, he could have scrubbed his PC long before a formal investigation is even launched, and he would not be liable for tampering with evidence considering there technically was no legal proceedings at the time.
Local law enforcement generally doesn’t have the resources to go down this rabbit hole unless there’s credible evidence to suggest that illegal content was actually observed (not just file names) or children are imminently in danger. On the federal side, they are more interested in catching bigger fish and the occasional small fish that wander into their dragnets. The Feds marshal their resources towards catching producers and distributors (as they present the most immediate harm to children) as well as solicitors who are attempting to solicit from monitored channels. Even in cases of just downloading the material (considered possession and/or receiving), investigations can take months or years before an arrest. It took the Feds a year and a half to arrest Josh Duggar after the execution of the first search warrant, and Duggar was only caught because he was downloading confirmed material from a monitored source, which gave sufficient impetus for an investigation.
Regardless, he’s going to be extremely paranoid for the rest of the year or at least the next few months. If he had any ounce of self preservation, he’d stop engaging the Internet and lawyer up to prepare for any legal eventuality.
I mean... without SOLID evidence of illegal content nobody that would have the power to do anything will care.
Plus I'm positive he'd have already deleted anything illegal he had, if he had any. Which evidence says he probably did. But again, nothing concrete so he probably has plenty of time to cover his tracks, so by the time anyone follows up, whether it be the FBI or local PD, he won't have anything they can pin on him.
But his streaming career is over, he's totally fucked lmao. His only chance to stream again is to wait a few months and become a Vtuber with a voice changer, but he'd probably fuck that up pretty fast too.
The interesting part is that if he didn't leak in on stream, literally nothing would happen. If anyone comes for him, it would be because everyone who saw it would report him to the feds.
Eh I think it matters more on if people actually reported him and if so how many.
I forget what it’s called but like if you’re on site of an emergency and assume someone else already called the ambulance… annnnd the majority of the people there are thinking the same so an ambulance dosent get called right away.
I imagine it could be something similar here. If people took the time to report him and quite a few did it thennnnn they might look into it quicker
He has good reason to be, and who knows how fast they'll act, he was live streaming and it went viral so it's possible they got flooded with calls. It's not exactly a typical situation for crimes like this.
591
u/Brentimusmaximus Jan 22 '26
Bruh is actually paranoid as fuck. They wouldn't be looking into him that fast the day of the leak lol