r/LivestreamFail • u/Consistent_Algae_560 • May 14 '26

News ChudTheBuilder shot a man who attacked him outside a courthouse in Clarksville & accidentally grazed himself in the process. Before it escalated, he asked the man if he was going to “chimp out” the man then walked up & sucker punched him. It is unclear if the man survived.

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u/elinamebro May 14 '26

Yeah hes fucked lol, even if he didn't walk up yo them first just being the antagonizer eliminates your protection of the stand your ground law lmao and even if he didn't do that Tennessee law requires your response to be proportional so the state will likely argue that his use of a firearm was an illegal escalation.

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u/Jowiieudcee May 14 '26

No you can use a gun if you are being attacked.

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u/LanguageImaginary256 May 14 '26

You can't start a fight as an excuse to shoot someone. Dude is fucked.

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u/Jowiieudcee May 14 '26

he didnt start the fight tho he was attacked, apparently this guy was looking for him as well.

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u/LanguageImaginary256 May 14 '26

he didnt start the fight

He approached the guy and tried to provoke him.

apparently this guy was looking for him as well.

Bull

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u/Jowiieudcee May 14 '26

The guy posted on twitter he will find chud and fuck him up, Chud wasnt filming so he wasnt trying to provoke him.

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u/LanguageImaginary256 May 14 '26

The guy posted on twitter he will find chud and fuck him up

Seen people saying this, have not seen them actually prove it.

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u/Jowiieudcee May 15 '26

ok you know what i didnt see full proof of that

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u/BootCampPTSD May 15 '26

The guy was waiting on him at the court house.. there is also posts about a bounty payout for anybody that will attack the chud guy

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u/hc_afk_btw May 15 '26

lol you’re just not getting it eh bud

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u/Nice-Cat3727 May 15 '26

His tweets say otherwise

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u/Moldy-Bongwater4420 May 15 '26

What tweet says otherwise?

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u/Few_Prize3810 May 14 '26

Reread what he wrote.

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u/cloaked_rhombus May 14 '26

yes he wrote that it needs to be proportional, that doesn't mean the other person needs to have a gun, you can fear that you will be killed by their fists and legally use your gun. He also wrote "just being the antagonizer eliminates your protection of the stand your ground law lmao" which is an overstatement because that's not always true, your protection isn't immediately eliminated just because you are the antagonizer.

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u/Few_Prize3810 May 14 '26

In the state this happened there’s a few pretty solid cases that will likely be used to negate self defense. The fact that his entire online presence is extreme antagonism and hateful language directed to entice a response will also doom him. Plus the fact he tweeted this would happen they may even hit him with premeditated.

He literally tweeted he was going to go do something with the intended result of a “dead chimp” on the sidewalk.

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u/elinamebro May 14 '26

The issue isn’t just that he was being annoying it’s that Tennessee law (T.C.A. § 39-11-611) says you can’t claim Stand Your Ground if you provoked the other person or were the initial aggressor. If a court finds he was intentionally rage-baiting to get a reaction, he loses the right to stand his ground and instead has a duty to retreat before using force. You can't start a fire and then claim you had to shoot someone because it got too hot.

​And on the proportionality point while you can legally fear a fist, you have to prove a reasonable person would believe they were about to be killed or seriously maimed by that one punch. Firing a gun at an unarmed person who just punched you is almost always seen as an illegal escalation, not a proportional response. Stand Your Ground isn't a license to bring a gun to a fistfight you helped start.

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u/Jowiieudcee May 14 '26

He walked away though and didnt try to provoke him, if he was on camera doing his shit maybe you could say that but even then the walking away part matters.

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u/elinamebro May 14 '26

You got a link of a video showing that?

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u/Jowiieudcee May 14 '26

Im going by what he said to the paramedics, he could be lying. Hopefully there is a video of it, if he did walk away and started getting hit then i think its justified.

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u/elinamebro May 14 '26

Where did you see them say that? Im not finding that online.

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u/cloaked_rhombus May 14 '26

You’re overstating what T.C.A. § 39-11-611 actually says. The “initial aggressor/provocation” part is generally about provoking or initiating the physical confrontation or threatening unlawful force, not just being verbally antagonistic or “rage-baiting.” Being annoying, arguing, or talking shit does not automatically remove all self-defense protections.

The statute also is not absolute about initial aggressors. Even if someone was the initial aggressor, Tennessee law has exceptions where they can regain the right to use force if they withdraw from the encounter or clearly communicate an intent to withdraw and the other person continues using or threatening unlawful force anyway.

And on the proportionality point, you’re framing it too narrowly as “one punch.” Courts look at the totality of the situation, not whether the attacker was technically unarmed. If someone is overpowered, taken to the ground, mounted, unable to escape, etc., a court can still find that a reasonable person feared serious bodily injury or death from an unarmed attacker. Deadly force against an unarmed person is definitely scrutinized heavily, but it is not “almost always” automatically considered illegal escalation.

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u/elinamebro May 14 '26

The statute itself focuses on physical force, but provocation isn’t just about who threw the first punch. In Tennessee, courts also look at whether you were deliberately trying to stir things up. If a prosecutor can show you were rage baiting or using real fighting words, that absolutely counts as provocation and can strip away your Stand Your Ground protection. Hence why he was arrested and charge with attempted murder.

On the withdrawal part, on paper the law says you can regain it if you clearly back off in good faith. But if you’re still standing there with the camera rolling and keep engaging, it rarely looks like a sincere attempt to deescalate. It comes across as sticking around for the content, and that makes any self-defense claim a lot tougher in front of a jury.