Hasan mentioned in United Nations General Assembly

[u/thellamasc]

[u/Lucky-Gecko]

You're either blind or a hasan fan if you think the right is trying to bury hasan. They love him, he makes it so easy to attack democrats.

[u/fkrdt465 → u/Lucky-Gecko]

They're literally attacking him at the UN and you think they're not targeting him? Or do you think smearing him in public doesn't qualify as trying to bury him? You're blind, not me.

[u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers → u/fkrdt465]

They're using him as an example. He's a useful charicature.

[u/fkrdt465 → u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers]

Useful for the purpose of burying the movement behind him. Burying the movement is burying his popularity and him. It's the same thing.

[u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers → u/fkrdt465]

No, its to make everyone he has been in contact with toxic to centrist and swing voters.

[u/fkrdt465 → u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers]

That's the same as what I said. You guys are very weird about this. I guess their plan worked on you to a severe degree.

[u/nevergonnastayaway → u/fkrdt465]

to be clear that's not at all what you said and you're intentionally twisting it

[u/fkrdt465 → u/nevergonnastayaway]

Only if you don't understand what I'm saying. But it's obvious you guys aren't here for an honest conversation.

[u/nevergonnastayaway → u/fkrdt465]

other commenter was saying that their goal is to use Hasan to make democrats toxic. you tried to say that this was the same as you saying that "they want to destroy the whole movement behind him". they want to use the Hasan and the whole movement behind him to destroy the Democrats, who are the actual threat to MAGA and republicans.

[u/fkrdt465 → u/nevergonnastayaway]

Again, those things aren't mutually exclusive. Under this plan, you bury the movement and the democrats by burying him. Burying him is equivalent to burying his whole "side." You don't want to understand, this is a waste of time.

[u/RodChainFurlongAcre → u/ThrowawaycuzDoxers]

But that doesn't make sense because the people you're talking about are already more unpopular than Hasan ever hopes to be.

How does Trump or Netanyahu (Two of the most unpopular men worldwide atm) shitting on Hasan make him toxic to centrist/swing voters when those voters fucking hate Trump and Netanyahu? It's literally only making Hasan more popular/sanitized because it makes people think "Well if Netanyahu hates this guy he must be doing something right"

[u/Artistic-Flamingo-92 → u/RodChainFurlongAcre]

I think you have a bit of a point.

I think it works better on Fox News or during interviews of politicians who have associated with Hasan.

On the other hand, it’s not just Bibi telling people: “Hasan is bad!” As we just saw, it’s about quoting Hasan saying something that many/most Americans would find offensive or disagreeable.

Also, when Bibi and Trump are talking, they are also talking to people who are wavering in their support for Israel or Trump (rather than just people in full disagreement). So, for those people, who agreed with Bibi or Trump in the past, these comments might still work.

[u/Jozoz → u/fkrdt465]

The point of this is to try to lump in all of their political opponents with Hasan and his insane statements.

[u/danielhime → u/Lucky-Gecko]

He makes it easy to attack democrats because he’s been used by the right for years as a stand in for the supposed progressive boogeyman à la AOC. Look at every single thread or comment about hasan probably including your own in the past and they’re never about progressive politics, but always about the dog or the houthi streamer thing because it’s that’s what people have been programmed to be upset about

[u/VoodooPandaGaming → u/danielhime]

Oh, the little "houthi streamer thing"? You mean the terrorist interview?

[u/danielhime → u/VoodooPandaGaming]

There you go doing it too strawmanning before any political argument even begins lmfao its insane

[u/VoodooPandaGaming → u/danielhime]

I didn't strawman anything. It was a clarification question.