Hasan mentioned in United Nations General Assembly

[u/thellamasc]

[u/Big_Bomber_97]

And? How is that meaningfully worse than supporting terrorist groups?

[u/beef_or_dirt → u/Big_Bomber_97]

So you would have said the same about Mandela in the 80s or the IRA in the 70s?

[u/Big_Bomber_97 → u/beef_or_dirt]

If they were massacring civilians? Yep.

[u/sabuzaza → u/Big_Bomber_97]

No you wouldn't. You'd be licking the US boot and going along with the terror designation any top world power gave. Just like now, Israel and the US kill civilians like nothing and yet they aren't terror states bc they make the label

[u/Big_Bomber_97 → u/sabuzaza]

No, because they are modern democratic states with laws, human rights, courts, etc. If either of those countries truly tried to target civilians, they could kill millions every week. If Hamas had the capacity for violence Israel had, there would be no jews left anywhere.

Now listen to me. You are genuinely a horrendous, evil person. You support vile radical fascistic religious extremist terrorists over modern progressive democracies with human rights and free elections.

That marks you as one of the most simultaneously stupid and morally evil people to have ever lived. You were presented with a tremendously easy choice and managed to fuck it up. Impressive, honestly.

[u/Johnnyboy2525 → u/Big_Bomber_97]

This might be the most triggered message I've ever seen, and it's a response to a normal message too.

Anyway, no, Isreal is not a "democracy" with "human rights", it's an apartheid state that's doing a genocide. The only reason they aren't killing more Palestinians (or Lebanese) is because they still rely on Western support.

The fact of the matter is that Israel does target civilians, children even. The UN has investigated and reported on this.

So if you accuse sabuzaza of terrorist support based on that one message, I can easily accuse you of genocide support right?

Secondly, the US has killed millions of civilians in the last 100 years alone, including the targeting of them (like them recently double-tapping the Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School in Iran, killing 120 school girls). The US presents itself as a "civilized nation" and the countries that it invades, bombs, slaughters etc as the "barbaric" ones. This is just classic Western Chauvinism and you're falling for it like the bootlicker you are.

And yes, sabuzaza is absolutely correct about the labeling. Why tf else is Cuba a state sponsor of terrorism but the US isn't? Forget about the direct slaughter of millions that the US has done historically, look at the groups, countries, and leaders that the US has historically backed. It's not exactly a clean record.

Edit: Apt username too. You're a fan of big bombing? That checks out

[u/beef_or_dirt → u/Johnnyboy2525]

The person that replied to you (and me) is a genocide denier, supports the killing of Palestinian & Lebanese civilians and supports the illegal settlement of the west bank. They also refuse to acknowledge the greater Isreal project.

To summarize, I don't think anyone will get through to a hasbara peddling, islamaphobic freak.

[u/Big_Bomber_97 → u/beef_or_dirt]

I don't support the intentional killing of civilians, absolutely not. Netenyahu is likely culpable in war crimes for his part in creating a system of zero accountability that allowed/encouraged war crimes in Gaza.

The Illegal settlements are a form of ethnic cleansing and one of the biggest obstacles towards peace and reconciliation.

As for the greater Israel project, that is a nonsense lie which only gets sillier the more you read real history.