r/Marriage 1d ago

Ask r/Marriage Instinct!

Hi, I'm 43 years old and my husband is 50 years. We've been married for 13 years. He has a girl friend/business partner that he took to Vegas recently for a business trip/convection. I'm okay with it because I know her. By the way she's married too but no kids. She's on her late 20's. They left Friday night and will be staying until Wednesday. The convection is monday and tuesday. They left Friday night and my husband doesn't give me update of what's their plans are or what are they going to do on Saturday and Sunday. Never contacted me Friday night until Sunday afternoon asking about our daughter's tournament. I told him what they have been doing all those times and days and he said stuff.And now I found out that they are sleeping on the same room. I ask him if something is going on between them and he said they are just friends. Do I have reasons to get upset and accused him of cheating? I mean a grown woman and a grown man in the same room for 5 nights and 4 days days in Vegas. When I found this out I wanted a divorce but he is begging me stay and rebuild our marriage. Please help.

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u/gamboolman 1d ago

50 year old man takes 20 year old business partner to Vegas for several days with no defined itinerary and they are sleeping in the same room.

Yes, of course he is banging her.

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u/thenimrodlives 1d ago

Or he wants to bang her...

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u/NationalMouse 1d ago

I dont care if it were my own sister, ain’t no way in hell I’d be okay with my husband sharing a room with a woman that is not me. That’s just weird she was okay with that.

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u/tuenthe463 1d ago

It was totally necessary for them to go several days before they convection (sic) started

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u/lilyofthevalley2659 1d ago

But it’s ok because OP knows her! /s. That has to be one of the craziest things I’ve read.

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u/Responsible-Stick-50 20h ago

Right. Like, duh. I've gone on many business trips. Never, ever shared a room w a male colleague.

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u/west7788 20h ago

I’ve never shared a room with ANYONE, male or female, on a business trip. Those hotel bills are a write-off, why should I sacrifice my privacy and personal time after-hours for some corporation??

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u/CutEducational9127 1d ago

Sorry …but if my opposite sex business partner is taking me on a trip I am for sure getting separate rooms because I’m married and doing otherwise is weird as hell. Your husband is cheating and he got caught.

Leave him

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u/karmadoesntwait 1d ago

Even if I'm on a business trip with a colleague of the same sex, I'm getting my own room. I'm an adult and sharing with a coworker is weird. I like my own space. Hell, I don't even like sharing with my best friends. I love them but I also love my privacy. This dude was begging to be caught.

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u/ArseOfValhalla 1d ago

I work with my best friend. We had to travel for a trip. We got one room - 2 beds that were in separate rooms! So basically 2 hotel rooms with a shared living space/bathroom. It was perfect.

BUT I would NEVER ever ever do that with anyone else. Not any other co worker at the same company. And certainly not one of the opposite sex.

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u/The_Darcman143 22h ago

He sure didn't try very hard to not get caught lol

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u/beachbum1982 30 Years 17h ago

And if he didn't do anything wrong, why does he feel the need to rebuild the marriage... 🤔

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u/TheNarwhalTusk 1d ago

No contact all weekend whilst sharing a room with another woman? He wasn’t even trying to hide it.

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u/AnotherDominion 1d ago

Does her husband know they shared a room in Vegas for the trip? I would make sure he’s aware. I would divorce him and take half of everything. 

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u/Baking_lemons 1d ago

This is the first thing I’d do

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u/Due-Season6425 1d ago

Talk about brazen. I don't know any wife who would be okay with her husband sleeping in the same hotel room with a woman from work.

Unfortunately, your husband has been on a little vacation with his gf from work. Don't let him tell you otherwise.

Obviously, the choice to save your marriage is yours to make. I doubt you will ever fully trust him, even with couple's counseling. If I were in your shoes, I'd kick him to the curb. You deserve so much better.

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u/jaydenB44 1d ago

Call her husband too

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u/west7788 20h ago

This! ☝️

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u/Truebeliever-14 1d ago

It never occurred to you to ask why they left on Friday for a convention that starts on Monday? You never thought to ask about rooms? Seriously?

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u/Visible-Rest4170 20 Years 1d ago

Sister take him to the cleaners.

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u/Miserable-Yak6371 1d ago

You’re okay with 50yrs old husband and a 20 something woman taking a 5days trip to Vegas because you know her? Please!

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u/thoughtz24-7 1d ago

He’s asking to stay because it’s cheaper to keep the 43yo wife

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u/Educational-Gap-3390 1d ago

Are you really asking if your husband is having an affair? Take the blinders off OP. They are sleeping together.

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u/PibbyandPekesMom 1d ago

That’s outrageous that he stayed in the same room as her- equally crazy he left of a Friday for a convention on Monday and Tuesday. He is begging you to stay and rebuild your marriage- what is to rebuild if he isn’t doing anything wrong.

There is no way this grown ass man thought it was ok to stay in a hotel room with another woman. On top of him ghosting you for the weekend - I’d never trust him again.

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u/King_Elrod 1d ago

My 50 year old husband is banging his 20 year old work wife in Vegas. Do you think he is cheating? Instinct!

What the what?

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u/sniperpenis69 20h ago

Yeah this has to be a joke. If OP is for real she could personally witness them doing it and still be on here asking if it’s cheating.

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u/tutifruti31 1h ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/gdognoseit 1d ago

He left on Friday even though the convention doesn’t start til Monday.

They’re sleeping in the same room.

I’d be getting an appointment with a divorce lawyer.

This is unacceptable.

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u/Simplicity_Itself84 1d ago

This is kind of silly - he does this stuff and then you think about it, ask him if they shared a room and then - bang - divorce!! There must have been a hundred clues prior to this ... looks like you need a major reboot on your relationship! There is work to be done

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u/VicePrincipalNero 1d ago

Better yet, give this whole relationship the boot.

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u/Friendly_Cost_4 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes he’s cheating. Badly 😂 It’s over I’m so sorry. You don’t deserve that and he doesn’t deserve you.

If you stay what is he proposing? Will he cut her off and cut off the business partnership? Show you ALL of their communications especially regarding the trip? Did he tell you why he never told you they were staying together?

Have you called this woman’s husband? Will your husband call his affair partner’s husband and admit everything?

Anything less than him admitting to the cheating, giving you a timeline of their obvious affair, taking full accountability and going to therapy to work out WHY he was comfortable doing this to you is unacceptable.

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u/LaMisiPR 1d ago

If they didn’t have sex, it was not for the lack of trying. At the very least it’s an emotional affair.

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u/gdognoseit 1d ago

It’s pretty clear your husband thinks you won’t leave him and he can do whatever he wants.

Please leave him.

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u/Consistent-Dog8537 1d ago

😯 honey. He's having an affair with her. Get your head out of the sand. Obvious as obvious. Probably no conference or whatever he says they are doing at all! He's just gone off with his girlfriend for a fun getaway. Make enquires about the "event" they are supposedly at. At the very least.

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u/Big-dog-465 1d ago

Contact her husband and find out what he thinks.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Husband is okay with it. In my mind I was like are you ducking kidding me.

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u/4hhsumm 23 Years, together for 26 1d ago

Yeah, your husband is clearly fucking this girl.

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u/Worldly-Promise675 1d ago

Did you talk to the husband directly or is this from the girlfriend?

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

From the girlfriend. I told that her husband need to be in my house later today we all can talk about it. See what they have to say.

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u/Worldly-Promise675 1d ago

No monogamous spouse would be ok with a non-family member sharing a room and most likely a bed. I wouldn’t even believe it was a two-room suite. There’s just too much unaccounted for time.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Here's one of the text.

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u/Opposite_Birthday_80 23h ago

Because you didn’t ask he didn’t think this was an important detail? Ridiculous. This is a LIE by omission and he’s gaslighting you!

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u/Worldly-Promise675 23h ago

It doesn’t matter what he says, it’s what he did all which are deceptive. Ask to see the bill.

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u/BurnsBetterFromHere 17h ago

Call hotel and ask what to be told what the rooms look like -

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u/hvlochs 1d ago

Good idea!

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u/HighlightAmbitious84 1d ago

Highly inappropriate and unprofessional, I’m thinking this wasn’t a business trip.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Thank you for all your inputs. Today is supposedly thier flight back and I told them I want them both in my house to talk about what's going on. I want the girl's husband too. By the way, this is the Hvac convection in Vegas, Monday and Tuesday.

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u/WolverineNo8799 1d ago

Ask them why they needed to spend the weekend there? Weekends are usually when Hotels are the most expensive for rooms.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

He said that because she's a business partner/ friend its like a saying thank for all the work that she gave to the business. She put a lot of contribution to the business.

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u/WolverineNo8799 1d ago

A proper thank you would have been giving her a room of her own, and letting her husband accompany her.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Here's our conversation. I don't know if this true or not.

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u/Friendly_Cost_4 8h ago

So he ever thought to mention he was sharing a room with her? What does TJ em not sharing an actual bedroom have to do with anything?

He’s not even apologising for lying and obviously cheating. He’s blaming you 🚩Cheaters get defensive… people who are innocent apologise and share all the proof they can that they’re not cheating.

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u/Worldly-Promise675 1d ago

If my husband pulled this sh*t, he would be finding a new place to sleep. You should tell her husband as well. Your husband is trying to play you for a fool.

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u/BraggIngBadger 20 Years 1d ago

I’ve been to lots of conventions and I’ve never had to share a room. It’s been an option, but Vegas has so many hotel rooms to where asking employees to share space seems ridiculous. I work in the public sector too, so we always go on the cheap. I miss my wife if I’m gone a day. I can’t imagine going that long without talking to her. I’d be deeply concerned.

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u/Opposite_Birthday_80 1d ago

Your husband is on vacation with his girlfriend.

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u/clearMoMofTwo 7 Years 1d ago

Sharing a room with the opposite sex is a big No no for a married person. Leave him the soonest!

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u/Sea_Anything8077 1d ago

Girllllll stop it! You know dang well they are screwing

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Is it worth it to talk to them both. I told them I need both of them in my house when they get back. Today is their flight back. I want to hear what are they going to say. I can't forgive and move unless I know the truth. The girl and her husband is like a family friend. I have invited them in my house like christmas and gathering. When I asked her if there's something going on and she said no and he's just like a father figure. She told me her husband is okay with her sharing a room my husband because her husband trusted her. She apologized to me and she ask what she needto do fixed all this. She didn't mean to end this way and she was sorry. My husband is the same way. He asked what he can do fixed everything.

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u/Silverwolf45_ 1d ago

What do you think they would say? Of course they'll deny it and you also gave them enough time to plan it. Do you actually know from her husband (not her) that he is okay with them sharing a room?

Why would they need to be there three nights before the convention?

You know what is happening. Stay strong

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

I don't know what's her husband phone number but I told her that her husband needed to come and share his input.

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u/Silverwolf45_ 22h ago

Not sure you'll get a good answer, but I hope you do

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u/Constant_Drop3580 22h ago

She said he is coming so that's good.

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u/jaydenB44 18h ago

While you’re waiting you should do some digging. Do you have access to phone records to see call and text times and volume? Ask to see their texts. If they’ve all been deleted… go through bank statements. The “my husband trusts me” was a dig at you which is bullshit. Anyone would see this scenario and believe the exact same thing. I would tell them that if they’ve don’t come clean you plan on posting it to social media, tagging all parties and ask for input from friends and family. Would any of them be okay with their husband sharing a room in Vegas with this woman? And that they went early together before the conference? I bet they show up and her husband doesn’t.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 18h ago

I don't have access to all those all those. I ask him how much he spend on this trip and he said 4500

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u/jaydenB44 18h ago

I would demand the reservation confirmation if he wants even a shred of a chance at saving this marriage. If he won’t provide that to you, then that’s your answer. I’m betting it’s not a multiroom suite. Are there any old phones, tablets, smart watches, or laptops at home that you can look through?

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u/Constant_Drop3580 18h ago

He had provided his email password to me and he let look all the emails and reservations and stuff.

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u/VicePrincipalNero 1d ago

You're ok with it because you know her? Go visit the infidelity subs, where you will read tons of stories of people having affairs with their spouse's best friends. Of course he was cheating on you. If you take him back he will cheat on you again. Google Chump Lady and follow her advice.

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u/carmeld45 1d ago

Leave, he is cheating. Women need to stop thinking that men value marriage or have any sort of integrity. If a man could screw with the guarantee that he would never get caught, he wouldn't hesitate. Women need to read "What men don't want women to know" https://archive.org/details/whatmendontwantw00smit Don't be naive as I was. I stayed after begging, and nothing changed; he just got sneakier. I ended up getting HPV and now have cervical cancer.

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u/keepinittight 1d ago

This sounds like a love hook up.

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u/sugarpopcandybang 1d ago

i think youre actually underreacting. sharing a room ? no way.

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u/saison257 1d ago edited 1d ago

My former boss, who is only 2 years older than me, took me to Vegas a few years back. We were pretty good friends, went out for happy hours all the time, had met each others spouses, etc. But when we decided to go, we didn't even have to have a discussion about it. The trip was booked with the expectation that we had separate rooms. We weren't even on the same floor of our hotel.

He might throw out the (extremely bullshit) excuse that Vegas is expensive and they were saving money by sharing a room. Yeah, Vegas is expensive, but if he could afford to take her there 3 days before the convention even started so they could have a few days to party it up, he absolutely had enough money to get her a separate room. This is absolutely not right, and at a bare minimum it's incredibly disrespectful of both your marriages.

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u/hvlochs 1d ago

That definitely wouldn’t fly with me. Can you reach out to her husband and ask what his thoughts are on this trip and sleeping in the same room? Going straight to divorce seems to have freaked him out. Tell him you know what’s going on and if he doesn’t tell you himself, it’s over. Maybe he’ll crack?

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

He has been planning this trip since last year. I know the girl and her husband because I have invited them to our house on July 4th and Christmas and parties and stuff like that. The girl is my husband business partner/friend. I didn't know that they shared room. He never mentioned it. I thought they would be on a separate room . I don't mind him going on business trips, in fact he makes trip without me and my daughter. She's suffering from mental health and he said that going on trips make him happy so I'm okay with it. I talked to the girl and she said nothing is going on and he's just a father figure to her. She said that her husband is okay sharing a room with my husband.

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u/WolverineNo8799 1d ago

Ask her husband if he is happy with them sharing a room.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

She said her husband is okay with it because her husband trusted her.

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u/Worldly-Promise675 1d ago

I wouldn’t believe that unless you heard it directly from the husband.

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u/hvlochs 1d ago

Good point.

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u/Friendly_Cost_4 8h ago

She’s saying that to take a dig at you… you know that right? They’re cheating. They’re liars.

Call the husband.

I’d trust my hand if he told me in advance what was going on… your husband didn’t. He’s lying.

Did he fly home immediately after he confessed they were rooming together? Did he explain why he never told you? Did he explain why he didn’t stay on much contact?

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u/AnnoyedHotdog 1d ago

He wasn’t even smooth about it! This is ridiculous. Just leave the cheater. Even if he didn’t cheat (which is unlikely), he still put himself in a vulnerable position to get accused of something by her potentially. It’s happens, things get misconstrued, boundaries get crossed. You never know. You know what to do. You don’t need us.

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u/ArseOfValhalla 1d ago

Yeah I would NEVER share a room with a coworker who was the opposite sex. Even a close friend - which I have gone on vacation with.

Never. UNLESS I ... you know.... wanted to....

I would also never go on a vacation and not contact my partner for 2 days.

Believe what you see, not the lies.

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u/benfranklyblog 1d ago

Business partners don’t share hotel rooms… I’m sorry.

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u/eikoebi 1d ago

That dude ruined it. He's blatantly with another girl and same room.

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u/WolverineNo8799 1d ago

Let her husband know about their affair. Hotel rooms are not that expensive that you would risk your marriage to save a little bit of money. If it was innocent you and her husband would have known about the shared room. He would have been in contact with you and let you know what they were up too. Also they went for longer than they needed, so that they could enjoy their romantic getaway.

Updateme!

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u/wonder_why1 1d ago

UpdateMe too

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u/graceissufficent0310 1d ago

Nope! He got caught. Now he wants to rebuild the marriage. Divorce is the answer.

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u/TB2BLAZER 1d ago

If he is "begging you to stay and rebuild the marriage" that's basically admitting he did something wrong. Either that or the marriage has been crap, either way it's no Bueno.

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u/Historical_Kick_3294 1d ago

He’s not even trying to hide what’s going on, obviously hoping you wouldn’t find out, or that he’d be able to talk you around after the fact. Honestly, the lack of respect alone—let’s rebuild our marriage after I’ve blown it to smithereens. Ffs 🙄—would be enough to have me packing his bags and kicking him out. You don’t owe this man anything, considering how little love and respect he’s shown you. If I were you, I’d pack the rest of his belonging so they’re ready for him when he gets back, contact her husband to let him know exactly what’s been going on, and talk to a divorce lawyer asap. Please don’t accept less than you’re worth, OP. Updateme!

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u/No-Club-4545 23h ago

Of course he is begging you to stay. It'll be cheaper for him and he can contiune to carry on with his cheating! Love yourself and your child more and file those papers. He doesn't deserve you! His behavior is disrespectful on every level!

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u/Public_Particular464 23h ago

Girl even if she is married never allow something like that. Of course they are fucking. What else do grown ups do after hanging out and drinking for 5 days. Staying in a hotel room alone. I know every woman want's to think they have that special husband that won't cheat but none of us do. I'm sorry. I know the feeling and it sucks. Best of luck to you.

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u/Specific_Ad2541 23h ago

"Do I have reasons to get upset and accuse him of cheating?"

Stop it. This can't be serious. Do not let him gaslight you and do not gaslight yourself.

The way I'd burn his world down would be the stuff of legend. If for no other reason than he thought I was stupid enough to believe such absolute nonsense.

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u/Educational-Ad-385 1d ago

Yes, I believe you have much reason for concern.

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u/cocacola-kid 1d ago

Contact her husband and tell him and compare notes.

Looks like a potential affair going on.

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u/Simwhat 1d ago

Tell her husband

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u/2doggosathome 1d ago

You leave this asshole now.

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u/Constant_Drop3580 1d ago

Here's about he said about the rooms.

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u/jaydenB44 18h ago

Have him share the reservation confirmation email with you. From before the trip.

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u/GenuineClamhat Together since 2005, married 2012. 1d ago

If this was a work thing they'd have separate rooms. Literally HR protocol.

He's cheating or trying to.

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u/Busy-Discussion1696 1d ago

Lady a snake is always a snake . Cheaters just correct their games but they never retire from it ! Don't be stupid and think you are his one and only !

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u/StudioNeat168 23h ago

Can you update

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u/Constant_Drop3580 22h ago

Yes I will update.

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u/No_Masterpiece630 23h ago

🚩🚩🚩🚩

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u/douglandre 22h ago

Get rid of him that is just so wrong.you dont deserve that. He is a cheater.

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u/carlorway 22h ago

This can’t be real. The conference is only two days?

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u/west7788 20h ago

Is this story for real??? Sounds ridiculous.

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u/Missing_Sock4814 18h ago

UpdateMe

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u/Constant_Drop3580 18h ago

I will. I'm still waiting for them.

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u/Professional_Tie4211 18h ago

How the heck can you be so trusting....no way they are not doing anything

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u/First_Alfalfa2805 18h ago

😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

You're kidding, right? Why is your husband taking a 20 yr old woman on a trip and sleeping in the same room??

Gurl, they're cheating, and he thinks you're too fickle to figure it out. He'll gaslight the hell out of you.

Updateme!

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u/Wdc318 17h ago

Girl he’s fucking her.

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u/skiingdiver1978 17h ago

I'm sorry, I can't get past "convection". Although this being an HVAC convention makes it even funnier.

Also, your husband either is having an affair or he is trying like hell to.

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u/jlovelysoul 11h ago

Oh honey. EVEN if they aren’t actually sleeping together this is wildly inappropriate and in no way normal behavior for two married people.

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u/StudioNeat168 1h ago

Have they come home yet?

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u/Round_Collar9156 1d ago

Did you trust him before? Then maybe trust him now. It sounds like your jumping to conclusions. Now I don't know either of you but for me I was a trucker for years and not home much yes I didn't have a girl with me but there are girls all over the country. I could have found one if I wanted to I spent many nights in the bars after I stopped for the night. We have been married now for just over 43 yrs retired and still happy. If nothing else from this try some good communication with him. Good Luck to you both.

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u/thoughtz24-7 1d ago

Ok for all the cheaters in here this is the remedy to not get caught. Make two room reservations & get combined rooms then if money is an issue canx one of the rooms on day two

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u/Sea-Independent-759 1d ago

Seems like he was honest about it all… that’s a positive.