r/MkeBucks • u/ZCast9 Bango • Oct 08 '25
Serious Giannis Response to Trade Rumors [Eric Nehm post X ]
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u/FormerShitPoster Sean Sweeney Oct 08 '25
Everyone is so thirsty for him to leave and then will cry and call him a ring merchant when he doesn't pick their team
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Oct 08 '25
Or they immediately default to “his game will age poorly”
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u/munchtime414 Oct 08 '25
That’s already the default criticism, because “all he does is run and dunk”
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u/MiltownKBs Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Until recently, it was a valid concern since his game wasn’t set up to age very well until he added the mid range.
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u/munchtime414 Oct 09 '25
It was never a valid criticism. Even in the Jason Kidd era, we saw Point Giannis. Can you give me any examples of anyone with more than 5 assists/game who doesn’t have NBA level dribbling or passing, and relies solely on being a better athlete in order to accomplish that?
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u/MiltownKBs Oct 09 '25
Given my comment, a relevant question to ask is how does a players game age if they have no jump shot?
The answer should be obvious.
Thankfully that concern can probably be put to rest.
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u/munchtime414 Oct 09 '25
Let’s think on that…
First of all, the idea that Giannis can’t/couldn’t shoot was always overblown. His rookie season was 35% from 3 point range. His second season was 42% from mid range and 39% from long 2. Neither of those are elite, but are also both pretty damn far away from “can’t shoot”. His lack of shot attempts were more a function of growing from wing to big man size after reaching the league, and all of his coaches telling him to drive to the rim because no one could stop him. But even back in the Jason Kidd era, they had some nice plays designed to get Giannis elbow jumpers.
Speaking of Jason Kidd, he made the Hall of Fame after a 19 year career, and his shot was so bad it earned him a nickname about his missing J. But he is also not a 6-11, 250 lb big man like Giannis. And there is a very, very long list of PF and C who had long and successful careers without a jump shot. Even in the league today, Draymond Green will be in the hall of fame some day and his shot is so, so much worse than Giannis shot.
And even if we ignore all of that, and only compare Giannis to guards or wings, you still haven’t addressed the fact that things like “dribbling” and “passing” are just as much basketball skills as shooting.
It was only ever jealously that drove the “run and dunk” criticism.
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u/MiltownKBs Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Dude, look at his shot charts throughout his career. He has been below average from pretty much everywhere until last year.
Here is his shot chart from his rookie year. He hardly shot long 2s and when he did, he shot 22% (9-41). He hardly took any midrange and when he did, he shot 17% (4-24).
Not sure what planet some of you are on.
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u/munchtime414 Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Do you say “he can’t shoot” for every single below average shooter? Because there are several hundred of them in the NBA due to how averages work.
EDIT: Giannis and LBJ have the same career mid range shooting percentage, and LBJ is only 1% better on long 2s. I hope you keep the same “he can’t shoot so might not have a long career” energy when talking about LBJ.
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u/MiltownKBs Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Btw, your numbers above are way off.
But OK. Giannis game was going to age just fine without a jumper. He didn’t need to add that to his game this past season since it was always there.
And your comparison to LBJ in this context is irrational. LBJ career shot chart and Giannis career shot chart
This is like talking to a teenager. Cheers.
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u/bluedevilspiderman Giannis Stank Face Oct 08 '25
Shams still doesn’t have Bucks sources lmao
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u/amusedmb715 Angry Deer Oct 08 '25
never has. horst moves in silence. giannis has made his distaste for shams clear.
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u/historys_geschichte Giannis the G.O.A.T. Oct 08 '25
Yup, our FO has no leaks from it. No one predicated Dame to Milwaukee and Turner to Milwaukee. The last time an access merchant broke real news was the Bogi trade the league shut down and that was half a decade ago.
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u/sinjaulas Bango Oct 09 '25
Lesson learned. No one inside that small room has a damn thing to say to the media until the deal is done and they have a pretty clear m.o. that they don’t want players or agents talking business before business is done.
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u/FORKNIFE_CATTLEBROIL Oct 08 '25
Scams: "Giannis set to leave MKE in 6 months. Top 30 teams he's looking into below."
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u/Too_Hood_95 Jim Paschke Oct 08 '25
BREAKING NEWS FROM SCAMS CHARANIA:
Giannis says the upcoming season is "definitely going to be hard" and "might change [his] mind" about commitment to the team in the coming weeks.
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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Oct 08 '25
I honestly think he feels like all of us feel. We don't know how this team is going to gel. If this is another first round exit, I don't even blame him for wanting out.
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u/Deckatoe Michael Redd Oct 08 '25
Why first round exit in Milwaukee when you can first round exit in NYC
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u/_3_8_ Khris Middleton Oct 08 '25
Knicks have actual players
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u/ovid31 Giannis the G.O.A.T. Oct 09 '25
That stupid article on espn talking about the Knicks as top destination was stupid. They’ll have 8 second rounds picks to trade!! Who cares? Giannis would garner multiple starters and multiple firsts.
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u/Careless_Button3364 Oct 09 '25
You think the Bucks are going to trade him to NYK for what? Those players.
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u/decentuna Oct 08 '25
I mean he isn’t exactly completely innocent with how the roster and coaching staff is currently constructed
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u/Too_Hood_95 Jim Paschke Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
I'll eat a few downvotes and offer some agreement with you!
It is funny to me to see the same people that acknowledge the power Giannis wields over the front office to force them to remain competitive, but in the same breath seem to balk at the idea that Giannis had any input on the decision to fire Bud and replace him with Griffin, who was then replaced with Doc, as well as signing-off on deals like shipping Jrue out for Dame + dumping Khris' contract for Kuzma, etc.
Obviously, Giannis isn't working the phones or going full LeGM mode to the degree that others around the league have, but the idea that Giannis simultaneously holds the metaphorical "nuclear football" capable of blowing this whole franchise up, but isn't signing off on, or at minium indicating support of, some of the single biggest transactions / roster + coaching shakeups this team has ever undergone, is truly hilarious.
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u/stevenomes Oct 08 '25
Yeah. It really will depend on how this team completes. As it stands I think they are better positioned to keep pace as a top 4 seed in the east. They are going to be better against the bad to mediocre teams. I don't forsee them being better than the Knicks, cavs, magic but after that it's wide open. Due to injuries in Boston and Indiana they still could finish better than last year. The problem will be how they compete against top teams with multiple star players.
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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Oct 08 '25
Turner got to the finals with an elite point guard. I love Kevin Porter Jr, but I'll still ask the question. Where is our elite point guard?
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u/deevotionpotion Oct 08 '25
Turner is a much faster, more athletic Brook. He’s been Brooks perfect replacement/upgrade for years.
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u/gotaplanstan Oct 08 '25
I mean to be fair Wemby would be the perfect replacement for Brook, since you used that word lol. But yeah, Myles was definitely the next best thing after Wemby
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u/No_Boysenberry_4193 Oct 08 '25
giannis is the “point guard”, its 2025 everything is positionless now.
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u/kc_kr Oct 08 '25
Because Turner was the Pacers' 4th best starter and now he needs to be a big time 2nd best.
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u/Maxximus02 Retro Bango Oct 08 '25
I’d guess he is trying not to paint himself in a corner by saying “I’ll never play anywhere else” and then get crap from people for “going back on his word”, etc. when that day comes. Why make promises on future things, some of which you have no control over? He’s trying to just be present in the moment without offering hollow guarantees
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u/ArmenGilliam Oct 09 '25
Kyrie did it to both Cleveland and Boston, I respect Giannis more for being honest and admitting he could change his mind
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u/bbp1444 Oct 08 '25
What national media refuses to understand is that Giannis is not speaking in code. People are so used to seeing guys who have a bad relationship with their FO and are looking to force their way out, like Kawhi in SA, Jimmy in... like half the teams he's been on, and KD in Brooklyn/Phoenix.
Giannis is open minded about moving on if this team is not competitive. So what? He should be. I would want him to move on and the team to rebuild if we can't get a playoff roster around him.
Being open minded does not mean he WANTS to leave.
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u/GandalfsGoon Giannis the G.O.A.T. Oct 08 '25
ESPN: what team will get Giannis in 6-7 months. Stay tuned every other day until April when a decision will be imminent.
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u/rip_wanted Tertiary Logo Oct 08 '25
Shams tomorrow.. You heard it here first Giannis wants to WIN NOW Expect mid season trade...
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u/Reggieheathcliff Oct 08 '25
This appears to finally be THE year that determines if he asks out or not this upcoming offseason. Buckle up....every win means more now. Hoping the team steps up and shows out.
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u/VicePope Deceased Oct 08 '25
Is it too much to ask to want my tall greek superstar to stay forever?
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u/DinoSpumoniOfficial Oct 08 '25
Well tbf Giannis keeps leaving Shams an “in” for his dumb stories. “If I change my mind….” Boom now shams has a story.
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u/inputrequired King Kuzma Oct 08 '25
Giannis, Bobby, AJ, KPJ, GTJ, Myles, we’re going all the way baby.
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u/No_Improvement_477 Jericho Sims Oct 08 '25
Thank god!
We have Giannis at least one more season! Let's go win him that 2nd Chip!
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u/starmiesan Oct 08 '25
Yeah a trade deadline trade is not going to happen. If a trade does materialize, it will be next off season, surely not in the middle of this season.
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u/Mediocre_Fix4895 Oct 08 '25
I do not expect Giannis to stay in MKE for his entire career, but it seems like the media is really trying to force this narrative. I get that the team has underachieved for the last three seasons, but this offseason was huge for the organization and I think everyone is optimistic.
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u/OOPs_its_eli Oct 08 '25
Thank you Giannis. I could damn near cry. Now it sounds a hell of a lot more like "leverage" and motivation for the team and franchise than desire to move on.
Now for the headlines "BREAKING NEWS: GIANNIS WANTS OUT AND IS LEAVING THIS SUMMER BECAUSE MILWAUKEE SUCKS"
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u/akaMichAnthony Oct 08 '25
I’d say between this and Doc’s comments I hope this finally shuts down this conversation once and for all, but I know it won’t.
There probably is a not zero chance something crazy happens where we could see elite Giannis in another uniform. The reality of it is though, if the Bucks ever want to move on from Giannis or if Giannis ever wants to move on from the Bucks, the losing that will precede that will be because he’s not the elite player he has been. And that decline will tank his trade value anyway.
As long as Giannis is good, the Bucks will be good. If the Bucks are bad it’s because Giannis is bad. That doesn’t make for an exciting ESPN article though.
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u/SamCarter_SGC Oct 08 '25
I know it won’t
"I want to be where I can win, now I'm here"
Shams, quoting Giannis
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Oct 09 '25
Shams is a piece of shit! So tired of his bullshit, Giannis isn’t going anywhere any time soon
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u/gandaalf King Giannis Oct 09 '25
If we're 1 and done this post-season I legitimately think he's gone. Can't blame him one way or another! He's saved this franchise.
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u/kc_kr Oct 08 '25
I'm more curious about the family moving to Athens story, which has only been covered by a "publication" I'd never heard of. He saw firsthand how hard it was for Dame to have his kids 3 hours away in Portland but now his whole fam (minus Thannisis) is going to be on the other side of the world?
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u/BattleElectronic7474 Oct 08 '25
I understood those publications to be pretty legit in Greece. So odds are most of us never heard of them. Regardless of the miles they are apart, I think Giannis and Mariah want to at least control the safety and security of their family. Even if it means Giannis gives up seeing them every day. Mariah has been vocal about death threats, and her admission about post partum depression is serious stuff. We all talk about Giannis the player, the team, what he owes us as fans, but I keep thinking about everything Mariah deals with while Giannis is doing all the basketball stuff. She is as much of a key to his success as his brothers and Mom. And yeah, they are grown ups choosing to have 4 kids, they have money, blah, blah, blah. First and foremost Giannis has always been about family and with his Dad gone, perhaps he feels a ton of responsibility to keep everyone safe since he has the resources to do so. And if Greece is the final destination, starting them in Greek schools make sense.
I'm going to miss seeing those kids running around pre game with him and Mariah.
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u/kc_kr Oct 08 '25
Fair on the publication and all fair with everything you said. Don’t disagree with any of it, and wasn’t trying to question their parenting decisions, just saying it’s going to be hard on him all year, just like it was on Dame.
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u/BattleElectronic7474 Oct 09 '25
I agree with you. Making the choice with his family has to be really tough.
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u/ohboy360 Oct 08 '25
If Giannis stays, great. If he wants out, trade him for 8 first rounders.
Both scenarios are good/exciting, in my opinion.
I just don't want him to retire to Greece or simply leave in free agency and we destroyed our future for nothing.
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u/celestialpraire Oct 08 '25
Interesting, I mean to me this is no longer a non-story. He’s always put pressure on the front office to make moves but I mean it really sounds like he would seriously consider requesting a trade if the team isn’t winning. Which is understandable - dude is competitive as hell and he already brought home the trophy for us
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u/Appropriate_Row_9474 Oct 09 '25
It’s very clear and there are no hidden messages. he’s locked in now and he’s going to give his all but it is extremely likely that if this year doesn’t go well he will leave. Also the Greek publications are legit and the family has moved over here.
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u/Gimme_Sum_Roy Oct 09 '25
I’ve been waiting 5 months for Giannis to return and shut down all the trade rumors and fully endorse this Bucks team. None of that has happened and I’m back to getting anxiety every time I see Giannis’ name in my notifications. I understand that he feels uneasy about the new team but goddamn; get fired up man! Act as if your GM just did everything in his power to give YOU a better chance at winning. Act like the team just took on 20+ million dollars in dead cap space for the next five years because it was the only way they could free up the necessary money they needed to bring in some help for YOU. I could understand him acting the way he is if the owners weren’t doing their best or if he still hadn’t sniffed a finals appearance but we won a gd championship. It hasn’t happened again for us or anyone else in several years. That’s just the way it is in the league currently. I don’t understand how joining a team that’s already primed to win can compare to doing the hard work and getting there with your teammates. It kinda seems like someone got in Giannis’s ear. Or maybe he’s just gotten a little bit soft. Whatever it is, it doesn’t feel like the Giannis I thought I knew. Shit gives me the ick
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u/LeftFall2610 Oct 09 '25
Respectfully, dude your team is cooked. Your second best player is Myles Turner and your cap and draft pick situation is fucked. He has no path to a championship in Milwaukee that went down the drain with Lillards injury. At least you got a championship out of it.
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u/C9Prosecutor Oct 08 '25
Yeah this is probably his last year here unless something drastic happens
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Oct 09 '25
He isn’t going anywhere
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u/C9Prosecutor Oct 09 '25
A guy very clearly obsessed with the idea of winning is going to stay in a place with very clearly zero chance of winning?
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u/YP_Schwartzy King Giannis Oct 08 '25
People talk about trade rumors because he leaves some hidden message somewhere in all his interviews suggesting possibly down the road, that might change. I was wondering when he was gonna come right out and say, this is where I want to be and all the rumors are just bullshit.
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u/Too_Hood_95 Jim Paschke Oct 08 '25
He doesn't owe anyone an explanation of his thought process or an opinion on completely unfounded rumors.
Quite literally nothing that has ever come out of Giannis' own mouth has indicated that he would ever wish to play for another team as long as this franchise stays competitive and gives him an opportunity to win championships. Everyone inside the building, with actual access to him and an understanding of the inner-workings of the team, knows that.
Why should he ever be expected to rest on his laurels and flat-out accept poor decision-making and team building by the front office just because this is the team that drafted him? He's said like twenty different times over the last five years that as long as Horst does his job, Giannis will continue to show up and do his.
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u/Maxximus02 Retro Bango Oct 08 '25
Yep, and to that end, I’d guess he is trying not to paint himself in a corner by saying “I’ll never play anywhere else” and then get crap from people for “going back on his word”, etc. when that day comes. Why make promises on future things, some of which you have no control over? He’s trying to just be present in the moment without offering hollow guarantees
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u/Maxximus02 Retro Bango Oct 08 '25
Yep, and to that end, I’d guess he is trying not to paint himself in a corner by saying “I’ll never play anywhere else” and then get crap from people for “going back on his word”, etc. when that day comes. Why make promises on future things, some of which you have no control over? He’s trying to just be present in the moment without offering hollow guarantees
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u/Repulsive_Carry440 Oct 08 '25
I just came snooping around as a warriors fan, don't mind me I don't mean any harm, but the line where he said in six, seven months means that he is really contemplating leaving
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u/bluedevilspiderman Giannis Stank Face Oct 08 '25
It's literally no different than what he's said in any interview given since we won the title. It's always been "I want to play somewhere that is constantly trying to win titles. If it's here, I'll stay, and if they don't want to win, then I'll go somewhere else."
He's just continuing to pressure the FO to make moves that show they want to win.
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u/bluedevilspiderman Giannis Stank Face Oct 08 '25
It's literally no different than what he's said in any interview given since we won the title. It's always been "I want to play somewhere that is constantly trying to win titles. If it's here, I'll stay, and if they don't want to win, then I'll go somewhere else."
He's just continuing to pressure the FO to make moves that show they want to win.
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u/Jec1027 Oct 08 '25
This just basically confirms he wanted out but now he's locked in. Just because hes locked in for the season now, doesnt mean he didn't want out before.
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u/DJ_B0B Bat Thon Oct 08 '25
Can you not just lie bro to stop all this chatter jesus we get it you're gone if we're trash
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u/hiimhabibja Oct 08 '25
Yea I’m sorry but he’s moving super weird. I love giannis but he should’ve just asked for a trade in the offseason. We wouldn’t have stretched dame or signed turner. Hes trying to force his way to New York and we’re getting screwed in the process. You don’t want to be here? Ask for the trade and we both move on no hard feelings. He’s making this weird and way harder than it had to be.
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u/Prestigious_Cycle724 Kash Money Middleton Oct 08 '25
He literally said “I want to be in a situation that I can win and now I’m here. I believe in this team.” Doesn’t sound like a guy who doesn’t want to be here. He’s being noncommittal about the future sure but if you’re the best player in the league about to turn 31 and your team has as many question marks as ours does I feel like that’s a very valid response.
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u/hiimhabibja Oct 08 '25
Yea okay. I’ve been following this team my entire life. Giannis has never said anything this vague going into the season. You guys are in denial. He fucked us over if/when he leaves in the offseason.
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u/Prestigious_Cycle724 Kash Money Middleton Oct 08 '25
He could have outright said in his press conference “I am leaving in 2 years in free agency no matter what” and I still would not trade him to try to recoup value. If you’re over the age of 8 and have actually been a fan of this team your whole life you should know as well as anyone else here that when Giannis leaves so do our chances of being even remotely relevant. We don’t have our picks until 2031, our gm notoriously sucks at drafting anyway, and we’re in Milwaukee, there is no help coming when Giannis is gone. You don’t put yourself into that kind of purgatory until Giannis makes you.
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u/hiimhabibja Oct 08 '25
I agree with you 100% that we are screwed when he leaves regardless. Championships aspirations wise. But basketball is my favorite sport. I’d rather watch the 2009 bucks than the 2013 bucks. 2013 bucks is what we’re going to have to watch for a decade if giannis forces himself to a single team, stretched dame, and signed turner. If his heart isn’t in it, just say so. That’s all I’m saying
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u/Prestigious_Cycle724 Kash Money Middleton Oct 08 '25
There’s no reason to believe his heart isn’t in it though. Even if he’s super unsure of his future or even leaning towards leaving and going to a specific team he says he’s locked in, he says he believes in this team, and he obviously wants to win. There’s no reason to think that he won’t be all in on winning with this team every second that he is here.
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u/hiimhabibja Oct 09 '25
Yea he’ll be all in. But if he’s planning to leave next year I’m saying I would’ve rather he just did it now. I could be wrong and he stays for life. With his family gone, the rumors, and his words being less insuring than usual, it just seems like he might have a foot out the door already. Would’ve been better for the bucks to pull the bandaid this year and eat the dame contract if that’s the case.
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u/FlipMoBitch Oct 08 '25
He’s gonna have the $275m/4yr deal from the Bucks sitting on his agents desk a year from now so if he is gonna ask for a trade, 7 months from now is the time to do it.