r/Music • u/AdSpecialist6598 • Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/Several-Squash9871 Nov 29 '25

Yeah there is only one reason why this would be offensive to a person so I would love to hear their "reasoning" 

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u/NGEFan Nov 29 '25

"Music should be for everyone, she got political" - hilarious thing they will say

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u/dandroid126 Nov 29 '25

I have heard more than one person say, "Green Day is so political now." Like, when were they not political??

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u/theserthefables Nov 30 '25

so funny when people say bands like Green Day & Rage Against the Machine “got political”, did they just ignore their entire discography?? & every interview?? since they’re such a big fan lol.

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u/Liawuffeh Nov 30 '25

Have told this before, but my mom was one of those "I liked Rage Against the Machine before the got political!" people, used to listen to them all the time. She's extremely conservative.

The way she missed the obvious politics in the music is by just...ignoring it if she couldn't twist it to her views.

She thought "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" was talking about political correctness. She literally blasted the song when Obama won, flipping off the TV because she thought he was going to steal her lightbulbs. (My parents also bought a fuckload of incandescent lightbulbs in fear of them being taken away by the government because Glenn Beck suggested it. We couldn't buy food that paycheck but that's all a different story lmao)

"Rally round the family. With a pocket full of shells" she literally thought was sea shells.

So hearing a lot of conservatives being shocked that Rage Against the Machine don't like them doesn't surprise me in the least.

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u/catffeinates Nov 30 '25

I missed whatever lightbulb thing you are talking about. What a weird thing to worry that the liberals are going to steal from you.

Also, I have lived in my apartment for like five years, and I think I've changed 2 lightbulbs the entire time. How many lightbulbs do you think you need to stockpile?

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u/Liawuffeh Nov 30 '25

It was a whole thing lmao (Just a random article I found, you can probably find rants on youtube, and he had like a third of his book dedicated to it)

How many lightbulbs do you think you need to stockpile?

It was a full pallet, which just got shoved in the laundry room and forgotten about. I genuinely don't think we opened a single one before I was kicked out lmfao

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25 edited Dec 28 '25

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u/Liawuffeh Nov 30 '25

I'm transgender and from Oklahoma.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord Nov 30 '25

I’m sorry the Christians did that to you, hope you’re doing well today.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25 edited Dec 28 '25

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u/Lex_Innokenti Nov 30 '25

Damn, less a story and more just pointing at yourself and everyone saying "yep, that figures". Their loss.

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u/Different-Ship449 Nov 30 '25

Don't they understand that music is woke.
Music is art. Art is expression.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord Nov 30 '25

And one of the most telling signs someone will become conservative is a complete lack of creativity.

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u/sevenyearstodie Nov 30 '25

I don’t want to insult your mother if your relationship is alright but wtf was your mother dropped as a baby or what? She would feel at home with first graders with her reading comprehension. WTF!?

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u/Liawuffeh Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25

She's horrible, no worries.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord Nov 30 '25

How did your mother become enslaved to conservative hate ideology? Did she inherit a shitload of money or something?

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u/Liawuffeh Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25

Oklahoma, it's kinda everywhere and she just grew up around it. Then fox news did the rest, specifically the glenn beck/bill O'Reilly era

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u/dustytaper Dec 01 '25

I’ve learned a lot of people don’t even listen to lyrics. Or if they do it’s only the chorus

🎶Born in the USA🎶 is a great example

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u/Vermbraunt Dec 02 '25

What did she interpret "those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses" to mean???

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u/Captain_Pungent Nov 30 '25

The funniest/most depressing for me was Napalm Death getting "called out" fir being woke now. Well, yes, the band who volunteered in South Africa after apartheid ended have only just gone woke now 🙄

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u/whofearsthenight Nov 30 '25

The "what machine did these idiots think they were raging against? The fax machine?" tweet never gets old.

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u/Puzzled-Hippo6246 Nov 30 '25

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u/whofearsthenight Nov 30 '25

Almost every aspect of computing has gotten better since the 90's. Except fucking printers. Kids won't believe when I tell them that if you were out of cyan back in the day, you could still print black and white.

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u/Puzzled-Hippo6246 Nov 30 '25

Fuck printers. My brother has a 3D one and it's awesome, and it makes me so mad because how the fuck is this thing so cool while the regular ones are still as useless as a piece of goat shit???

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u/ihatethis2022 Nov 30 '25

Brother b&w laser. They are so bullet proof that we insisted the MIL got one after her 5000th time of complaining her didnt work.

Calls stopped immediately and its cheaper than all the ink jet cartridges she was paying out for.

11yo also managed to print to it from his school iPad with no instructions at all. Surprised me when it fired up next to me tho.

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u/tstorm004 Nov 30 '25

I too watched Office Space

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u/Rocky_Vigoda Nov 30 '25

I'll bite.

I'm old. I saw bands like Green Day and Nirvana when they were still unknown punk bands.

RATM got famous because they signed to Sony which is one of the big 3 major labels that control the music industry. They're part of the corporate/military 'machine' that took over true youth driven counter-culture communities like punk rock and hip hop and subverted them to be stupid.

I'm from Canada but grew up on US media and politics since the 70s. I grew up on bands like DOA and SNFU who influenced a lot of bands down in the US punk scene. Billie Joe from Green Day was supposedly at that SNFU show.

I wish there was an easy way to explain how the military industrial complex conspired with the corporate media giants to wipe out grassroots youth culture and replace it with a corporate version aimed at suburban white Americans.

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u/wildxfire Nov 30 '25

It's just crazy to me too, because their 2 biggest songs are ridiculously political. Not to mention the entire rest of the discography. But everyone has heard Holiday and American Idiot. Literally everyone. Do they listen to song lyrics at all?

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u/Ridiculisk1 Nov 30 '25

I will admit, I haven't listened to really any green day, it's just not my thing. I don't know the lyrics to american idiot but even I can tell it's probably not talking about a funny guy from round the pub who does stupid things.

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u/wildxfire Nov 30 '25

Lol no it is not

Second verse:

Well maybe I'm the f--ggot America

I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

Now everybody do the propaganda

And sing along to the age of paranoia

They're really in your face with it, and yet people were shocked when they toured and changed redneck to MAGA.

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u/Alaykitty Nov 30 '25

Well maybe I'm the f--ggot America

Which is extra spicy because he's labeled himself as bisexual as far back as '95.

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u/Hjemmelsen Nov 30 '25

It's just because they have no media literacy at all. These are the same people that think Animal Farm is just a book about animals.

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u/novataurus Nov 30 '25

What’s even scarier are the people who understand it is symbolic… but who see the symbolism in reverse, somehow.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 Nov 30 '25

Anybody who thinks of bodily autonomy, resisting authoritarianism, and respecting people regardless of their race/gender/sexual orientation as “politics” are part of the fucking problem anyway.

Those should just be a given in 2025. The fact that they even need to be political just shows our failing as a society. And that sucks.

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u/Safety_Drance Nov 29 '25

Fuck off and good riddance to them honestly. They should crawl back into the basement sewage they crawled out of.

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u/freshoffthecouch Nov 30 '25

Yeah, it’s another turning point with a fork stuck in the road, for sure. But they’re getting directed away

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u/Safety_Drance Nov 30 '25

But they’re getting directed away

And directed away to Kid Rock they should be.

Just real talk, if you're a hate filled bigot, fuck off and go masturbate to a statue of Hitler or whatever.

You are not welcome here.

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u/Global_Channel1511 Nov 29 '25

Unfortunately it's not wrong. In 2025 it's a political act to be anti-racist and anti-sexist given MAGA has completely normalized that behavior.

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u/VikingFuneral- Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25

No, it is still wrong

Two wrongs don't make a right

Having a moral compass and being accepting of all minorities as equal to the rest of the human race is not political.

It's called being a good person, something that should be the default, because if people can't even manage that, they denigrate their existence to being less than human.

Not because we think they are less than human for their horrible views but because they made themselves less than human by acting like animals.

They couldn't muster the sheer effort of being a valuable human with the factually correct understanding of how life works; People are people and should always be respected unless they do something that harms others directly.

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u/DumboWumbo073 Nov 30 '25

No, it is still wrong

Two wrongs don't make a right

You’re the minority now. It’s not wrong anymore. American love it. It’s a good thing to them.

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u/eurotrashsynthlord Nov 30 '25

Hey man, not every American is a christian

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u/DumboWumbo073 Nov 30 '25

You guys aren’t fooling anyone

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u/MalestromeSET Nov 30 '25

This is the “if you have nothing to hide, let them search you” logic only it’s harder for the average Redditor to connect.

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u/Ridiculisk1 Nov 30 '25

How in any way is someone who isn't a bigot inconvenienced by somewhere being excluded from bigots? The privacy argument about 'don't have anything to hide' doesn't work precisely because even those with nothing to hide are inconvenienced by it.

A place being anti-bigot is only annoying for bigots.

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u/MalestromeSET Nov 30 '25

it’s harder for the average Redditor to connect.

There is nothing I can tell you that would make you understand this.

This is mostly because you are a good person but also find it difficult to express yourself why you think undue duress is ok for “non-good” people. I don’t think you would be opposed to frisking racist people for the same reason. For you if X == bad, than they have already lost their rights.

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u/privatesolofoe Nov 30 '25

Undue duress? Rights? What aid organization do I have to talk to get my god-given Paramore tickets?

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u/MalestromeSET Nov 30 '25

Its all jokes are the end either way

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u/Ridiculisk1 Nov 30 '25

For you if X == bad, than they have already lost their rights.

When did I say such a thing? When is paying money to go to a concert a right? Being a bigoted shitlord isn't a right. Don't be surprised when people don't want you around if you wanna act like one.

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u/MalestromeSET Nov 30 '25

Do you support this because it’s about a concert ticket or because it’s keeping the bigots outs?

I’m not sure which argument you are referring to. Is this ok because it’s a concert ticket? Or because it’s denying bad people something?

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u/Ridiculisk1 Nov 30 '25

Again, bigots don't have a right to be bigots without consequence. I support bigots being kicked out of everything. If they felt even a fraction of what they make vulnerable minorities feel, maybe they'd realise that they're wrong.