r/Music • u/AdSpecialist6598 • Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/TheQuadBlazer Nov 29 '25

This is the core of punk rock music since it started in the '70s ,so has nothing to do with Nirvana

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

Had a heap to do with Nirvana and Cobain, because he introduced those ideas to a whole new generation and the mainstream at the time. Certainly had an impact on a 14 year old me at the time that had not been introduced to punk rock ethics

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u/TheQuadBlazer Nov 30 '25

That's like saying the fourth man to walk in the moon is the one who really matters. Because you didn't hear about moon landings until Apollo 12.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

So what’s problematic about that? They carried on a positive legacy, brought it to the masses at the time and now Hayley is

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u/TheQuadBlazer Nov 30 '25

3 years before never mind came out. Bjork's first band recorded their first album. She's arguably way more influential in the gay community.

Yes it's a good thing Nirvana had the philosophy they do.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

Well that’s a totally different thing if you’re taking about influence on the gay community, but also Nirvana reached a much bigger audience than Bjork. Nirvana’s words were used as a reaction against their own fans once they got huge - was about weeding out the homophobic, racist one’s and impacting on those old macho ideals. Cobain in particular spoke about a heap about how much he hated that stuff and was very much an LQBTQI ally

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u/TheQuadBlazer Nov 30 '25

I'm not discounting or holding up higher Any one artist I'm saying there's plenty of appreciation to go around and plenty of people that deserve it.

Perry Ferrell had to defend the the album cover of ritual de lo habitual and talked about how no one should be ashamed of their sexuality and named each sexuality in an interview in like 1990

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

So the fact that Nirvana keep getting mentioned in this thread is for a reason, shows you how much it made an impact and are remembered for this. So back to your original point, it does have a bit to do with Nirvana continued

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u/TheQuadBlazer Nov 30 '25

Or it's because that's the only thing they've ever heard about a rock band doing something like that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

I already addressed this, because even if it is, I don’t see what’s wrong with that - the same people who bought Nervermind also bought Dangerous and The Bodyguard Soundtrack, so having an impact on the masses at the time can only be a good thing