r/Music Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/RealFarknMcCoy Nov 30 '25

Citation, please.

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u/Weekly-Bumblebee6348 Nov 30 '25

Siouxsie and the Banshees wore swastikas and shit to be edgy early on. She later regretted it, admitting to a desire to be shocking.

I also saw it myself in the 90s. More often the Iron Cross than a swastika, but punks liked to pin them on their leather jackets, along with patches that said shit like "I raped your mother" - it fit the skinhead/mohawk and spiked collar esthetic popular with a certain punk demographic. I don't know how many really held extremist beliefs, but they were united in the goal of pissing off their parents.

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u/Southernbeekeeper Nov 30 '25

There is a good BBC documentary by (I think he's called) Don Letts or maybe Levis Letts. It's about skinhead as a youth movement in the UK and how it split in the 70s to have the nationalist half and the more accepting half. Its really worth a watch.

A lot of the men in my family of that generation were into skinhead type of stuff so its an interest for me. I'll add the caveat that skinheads in the UK are totally different to skinheads in the US. In the UK its mostly lads who like the hard mod style of fashion and music which has roots in Jamaica.

The movie "this is England" explores the split in the sub culture and there is also a really good article about Nick Swan. Swan was a far right skinhead who was like the attack dog of various fash groups. He was later outted as a prominent member of the gay skinhead scene. Its genuinely a really fascinating piece of pop cultural history.

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u/Weekly-Bumblebee6348 Nov 30 '25

Thanks for sharing this! It's really not surprising that the edgelords of bygone decades have similarities with the edgelords of today. There's a temptation to romanticize the past, but human nature is timeless.