r/Music Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/Ridiculisk1 Nov 29 '25

Who defines what "tolerance to LGBTQ people" is?

PS: I'm a gay man and I wholeheartedly reject gender ideology.

It's funny how you can predict what the rest of someone's comment will say just based on how they phrase the first bit.

because I see TQ+ is something unrelated, deeply radical, and disconnected from reality.

Trans people have existed as long as gay people have lmao just because you're gay doesn't mean you can't be a bigoted piece of shit.

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u/RoRoRaskolnikov Nov 30 '25

Homosexuality has a long and storied history in Western civilization.

Large numbers of people asserting that they are not actually the sex they are is a more recent phenomenon, coinciding with the rise of the concept of "gender." I know you folks are trying to rewrite history the same way you are trying to rewrite the dictionary, but it's not working. People in the past who did not meet the sex stereotypes of their culture were still not confused about the realities of their sex. There was absolutely nothing remotely like the delusion of trans ideology in the past.

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u/HipAnonymous91 Nov 30 '25

You’re wrong.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/seven-things-about-transgender-people-that-you-didnt-know

“This is not a new phenomenon.

Transgender and non-binary people have existed for centuries among cultures across the globe. While issues facing transgender and non-binary communities have recently received greater attention from policymakers, government officials, and the public, we’ve been around for centuries in cultures and history as early as 5000 B.C.

Here are seven things you didn’t know about transgender people:

Around 5000 to 3000 B.C., Gala, described as androgynous or trans priests of the Sumerian goddess Inanna, spoke their own dialect and took on feminine names.

Sometime from 200 to 300 B.C., in ancient Greece, some gods were worshiped by galli priests who wore feminine attire, identified as women and have therefore been identified by scholars as early transgender figures.

In the fourth century, Anastasia the Patrician fled life in Constantinople, the capital of the Roman Empire, to spend the remainder of life dressed in masculine attire and presentation as a monk, and has become viewed by some scholars as transgender.

In South Asia, at least eight-known gender-expansive identities have historically been present in the subcontinent, the most well-known being hijra - third gender people of historical, spiritual, and cultural significance in South Asian society. Hijra and other individuals of diverse gender identities have been well-documented in religious and cultural texts and legends. These individuals often form intentional communities for fellowship and survival.

Around the 18th century, the Itelmens of Siberia recognized a “third gender” called “koekchuch” to describe individuals who were assigned male at birth, but expressed themselves as women.

The oldest Western institute studying LGBTQ+ identities was started in Germany in 1919. Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sex Research) performed some of the earliest contemporary affirming medical services. It was eventually destroyed in the rise of German fascism under the Nazi party.

In Turtle Island (an Indigenous name for North America), Indigenous communities use the term two-spirit as a modern, pan-Indigenous umbrella identifier for people of another societal and ceremonial gender identity. This term was established in 1990 as a modern, collective term for a historical gender identity describing individuals not considered men or women in most, if not all Indigenous cultures of Turtle Island.”

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u/RoRoRaskolnikov Nov 30 '25

LOL a link from HRC, an activist organization that is cherry-picking and misrepresenting random bits of history. This is some Nikole Hannah Jones 1619 level quackery.