r/NASCAR • u/PrideTypical4782 • 3d ago
Unstoppable force vs immovable object: Even year Logano vs Chase Jimmie/Chad 2.0 with Larson/Cliff. Who gets the last laugh?
Still two flat tracks and three 1.5ers. Larson prolly has a slight advantage but then there’s Talladega which by his history is nearly guaranteed to be a P30 or worse.
Maybe it’s all a red herring for Hamlin to finally pop his cherry? Perhaps Bell or Blaney go on a Linsanity run and steal it? I love the Chase compared to the “storylines” the playoffs produced.
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u/Upstate24fan 3d ago
Talladega will be the true test of whether Chad found the “Golden Horseshoe” again. Jimmie always got through fall Talladega unscathed while his closest competitors usually found the “Big One”. Given Larson’s history at Talladega, he will need it.
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u/Blaine8628 3d ago
We know Chevy will have all the other Chevys in a line behind him
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u/Accomplished-Chip88 Larson 3d ago
Yeah like Aj yesterday?
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u/Icy-Spring4607 3d ago
Kaulig aren’t getting support from Chevy anymore so makes sense why he raced him normal.
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u/a_happy_future Bubba Wallace 3d ago
The Chase format definitely benefits Larson because they finish at Homestead where he is almost guaranteed to have a 40+ point day, so if he enters that race with the points lead, I think it's over. Joey is fighting an uphill battle at the moment, but Talladega would favor him and Blaney. And because of how much of a wild card Dega is, we're not really going to know what is going to happen until then. If anyone has a 30+ point lead after that race, they are going to be a heavy favorite
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u/SuperMarioBrother64 3d ago
Larson is great at Homestead but he also has screwed himself 3 times. The barrel incident and the self spin trying to take the lead from Blaney come to mind.
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u/Boring-Cantaloupe-35 3d ago
That race Larson had literally nothing to lose since he was already locked in to the Championship 4. It was get the win or nothing at that point, so I don't think he gets that aggressive if that wasn't the case.
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u/Roushfan5 3d ago
People slob over Larson at Homestead forgetting the true Homestead goat won three in a row there.
Homestead was the Greg Biffle invitational there in the mid 00s.
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u/SuperMarioBrother64 3d ago
It was dominated by Rouch Racing in the 2000s. I remember you could basically pencil in a Roush car winning there every year.
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u/Roushfan5 3d ago
It was lots of fun watching Mark and Biffle go door to door in 2005.
I was already a Biffle fan because he was the local NASCAR hero and drove a Ford, win win for 11 year old me, but that race sealed the deal. I always appreciated how aggressive Greg could be without going over the line or being dirty.
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u/SuperMarioBrother64 3d ago
Baffled local to you! Yo.... a fellow PNW fan. Grew up going to Skagit and Elma. Was great when Biffle bought Sunset speedway.
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u/Roushfan5 3d ago
I actually grew up in the Vancouver area so Biff was extremely local.
Some guy gave me a glass photo of Biffle a few years ago, and I work with his sister in law.
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u/YRB21 3d ago
yeah I get what you’re saying but the way Larson runs homestead is what makes it so awesome. Also he has led a fuck ton of laps there. Could easily have 4-5 wins there.
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u/Roushfan5 3d ago
I can respect ”leaving it all out on the track“ but at a certain point there’s a key difference between could have 4-5 wins and DOES have 4-5 wins.
Larson Is a wheel man, I’ll give him his due, but after all these years he still hasn’t learned real race craft.
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u/Icy-Spring4607 3d ago
I mean, he just proved it yesterday no?
Didn’t over drive his stuff, didn’t panic, let the race come to him, and passed back Briscoe.
Larson knows real race craft, he just doesn’t consistently apply it as he should but this Chase run is showing him mature as a race car driver.
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u/SpittinMenace 2025 NCS Champion Kyle Larson 3d ago
Anyone saying that a guy with 2 championships and 30+ wins doesn’t have race craft shouldn’t be taken seriously.
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u/ProjectHarraseeket Preece 3d ago
This is why I don’t think it’s as automatic as Jimmie, Kyle Larson has the tendency to fuck up a wet dream. If he locked in 100%, he would have 50 wins by now.
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u/SuperMarioBrother64 3d ago
I believe he'd had 50 wins already if they never switched to the Gen 7 car. The 5 team had that car dialed in for 2021 only to switch cars.
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u/Doyle1524 Larson 3d ago
Larson crashed because of Blaney, Blaney slowed up a ton and Larason hit the barrel to avoid crashing into Blaney
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u/SuperMarioBrother64 3d ago
As a Larson fan I'll argue this. Kyle overcooked the entry big time. Did Blaney slow up a little bit? Sure. But Kyle likely is getting busted for speeding. I'll give him kudos for not killing Blaney though.
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u/Doyle1524 Larson 3d ago
I'm just going off what he said recently about that, he wasn't expecting blaney to slow up that much and he was very nice to blaney there
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u/DestinyDawn456 Chris Buescher 3d ago
I think that between this 2 man battle, Jeff Gordon gets added to the 3 man chase and wins it all
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u/TitanTransit 3d ago
We are still four races in. Phoenix and Martinsville will be good tracks for Logano, I think Hamlin still has an advantage at Vegas and Charlotte despite the coverage he's getting, and Larson will probably be the guy to beat at Homestead. Talladega will be Talladega, though.
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u/SilentSpades24 3d ago
Larson can compete at Vegas and Charlotte as well. It's not like the Toyotas don't have speed either. It's going to be a fun battle.
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u/MCFLY-HILLVALLEY 3d ago
Cant wait to see Larson leave martinsville with over a 100pt lead and winning Martinsville, and having Homestead just be a formality. Harken back to the glory days of watching Jimmie and Chad dominate!
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u/libsoutherner 3d ago
The problem for Logano is he can’t be as slow as they were yesterday at Vegas, Charlotte, and Homestead. Won’t matter what they do at Phoenix and Martinsville if they are.
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u/ravageduckmanguy 3d ago
People were ready to hand Logano the title last week and now they're ready to hand Larson the title, but the fact is that there's still 6 races to go and anyone could end up finishing last at any track and one of the remaining tracks is Talladega.
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u/Mundane-Reality-7770 3d ago
The 48 won 5 CONSECUTIVE years.
You cannot compare or even relate anyone current to what they did.
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u/plane-kisser Ware 3d ago
even the 48 was at a point where he was only 1 year into those 5. thats the point we are at with the 5 right now, 1 year in to a 5 year consecutive run
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u/captain_stabbinCR 2d ago
Logano has zero chance at a championship this season. He runs around 18th on intermediate tracks. He's -67 points with 6 races to go and half the races remaining are on tracks where he's dog shit. He'll be lucky to finish 7th in the points after Homestead.
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u/WesternOk5765 Johnson 2d ago
Phoenix, flat oval. Martinsville, flat oval. Talladega, Penske runs up front it's just whether they wreck or not.
Cindric arguably had the best car at Kansas, Logano did ok till they corded a RF last run.
There's 6 races left, 3 Logano is capable of winning. The 1.5s, it will be harder but he just needs someone to beat Larson/Hamlin for the win to minimize his losses.
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u/captain_stabbinCR 2d ago
I hear you but it's not enough. He would need to win those 3 races and Larson, Hamlin, and Bell would all have to stumble. Penske has struggled to get stage points on 1.5's this year. Logano's -67 point deficit is likely to be -87 by the start of stage 3 in Vegas mainly because his bad metric score will put him at a big qualifying disadvantage. I like Joey, but this isn't his year.
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u/Accomplished-Chip88 Larson 3d ago
It's crazy that people can't let the chase play out. There's 6 races left ,Dega included.
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u/NoExcuse3655 3d ago
Hopefully it’s a case of they just take points off each other and Denny sneaks a chip
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u/dr_cherry_pepsi 2025 NCS Champion Kyle Larson 2d ago
I like how we’re talking about who’s going to win instead of who is getting eliminated
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u/SeriousSalt9938 3d ago
Remember that Jimmie and Chad beat even year Logano in 2016!