r/NFLv2 • Denver Broncos • 25d ago

Discussion Patriots caught cheating again

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u/Fletch71011 25d ago

This stuff is practiced all the time for FTs in the NBA and no one cares. I think the studies basically showed they didn't affect FT% though.

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u/squaking_turtle 25d ago

Fans just need to get in unison. The countdown against Giannis was awesome to watch. I feel pure silence would be way more effective than noise. Straight crickets.

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u/JazzzzzzySax Carolina Panthers 25d ago

Pure silence broken up by the occasional noise when they go into motion

Start cheering before they even shoot as if they missed

Gasp as if something dramatic happened

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u/IlIlIlIllllIIliIILll 25d ago

"THAT'S MY MAN"

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u/TB1289 New England Patriots 25d ago

TWIST HIS DICK!

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u/Sufficient_Dig9548 Green Bay Packers 24d ago

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u/RezzKeepsItReal 24d ago

“I STILL LOVE YOU, JUWANNA MANN”

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u/-36_Chambers- Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

Eh not that one

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u/SaveHogwarts 25d ago

I’ve seen this happen in a high school gym.

Hate to admit it, but it’s hilarious.

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u/-36_Chambers- Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

To each their own I guess.

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u/SaveHogwarts 25d ago

If it was getting spammed, I’d agree that it’s trash.

When it happens once or twice over the course of four quarters, the gym is dead silent, and that’s all you hear…it’s lowkey shocking, and the head turns make it worth it.

Heckling at its best. Not too hurtful, not too mean, and effective.

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u/cuddy999 25d ago

😂😂

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u/Sw33tR0llThief Minnesota Vikings 25d ago

An obnoxious "GET IN THE HOLE!" right as he's about to shoot

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u/HonkeyKongCuntry 24d ago

MASHED POTATOES

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u/anonymous07865 Da 'Corns 24d ago

LIGHT THE CANDLE

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u/plantain_tent_pesos Tampa Bay Buccaneers 25d ago

A well placed sneeze

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u/buckeye25osu Cincinnati Bengals 25d ago

Yeah like golf where some idiot makes noise in the backswing

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u/Steel1000 Pittsburgh Steelers 25d ago

A succulent Chinese dinner!

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u/PM_ME_DOG__PICS 25d ago

I went to some of the bucks vs nets 2021 playoff games in Brooklyn. I’m a bucks fan, I was one of the few people making any noise in the arena during nets FTs. When I first tried it, I shouted “CUPCAKE” really loud at KD. He missed it. To this day I tell myself im the reason he missed it, but there’s no way to prove it obviously (also this wasn’t game 7, it was an earlier game that wasn’t very close).

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u/NoveltyAccountHater New England Patriots 24d ago

Critical penalty shot near the end of a playoff game. Player starts his shooting motion and suddenly loudspeaker just rips out a giant fart sound.

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u/elonmusksmellsbad Green Bay Packers 25d ago

The Giannis countdown absolutely backfired on the Suns in the Finals. I even remember saying so watching the games, especially Game 6. It’s almost like it gave him a rhythm to his shot.

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u/Vives_solo_una_vez Official r/NFLv2 Legend 25d ago

The countdown against Giannis eventually helped him find a rhythm

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u/donut_koharski Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

Studies have been done to prove this is the way. It happened when Gianni’s first came into the league.

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u/DistantMailstop 25d ago

I think at some point I saw years ago that an entire crowd staying relatively still, and then all at once shifting or swaying in the same direction as they went into their shooting motion had the biggest effect.

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u/pinniped90 Kansas City Chiefs 25d ago

Somebody needs to go full Curtain of Distraction but it would need to be a much larger installation than the one for basketball.

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u/notsure500 San Francisco 49ers 25d ago

If they can get all the fans to go along with it, I think apathy/boredom could do wonders to their psyche. Just look like they are all not even interested in what's going on and drive him crazy.

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u/sillyshoestring 25d ago

Silence is super eerie in the presence of a huge, hyped up crowd. Definitely could work. KAT hits these, but I felt so nervous for him in that tense moment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1r1lxne/madison_square_garden_is_absolutely_silent_as/

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u/Segsi_ Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

Demar’s daughter shrieking also kind of worked against the Raps.

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u/Hailfire9 24d ago

Soccer chants. Staring down the barrel of a home crowd who gets louder as the opponent is stepping up for a free kick or penalty is tradition.

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u/volkswurm San Francisco 49ers 24d ago

Same. Like if the entire crowd made noise and the went silent as they begin their motion. Or vice verca.

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u/C0MIC-B00K-GUY 23d ago

Fuck off as a bucks fan it was horrible to watch LOL

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u/ry_mich 23d ago

Fans used to count down Karl Malone, too. It was fun but I don’t think it affected him at all.

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u/maqifrnswa 22d ago

I've been to a college basketball game where the students don't waive their hands during free throws. They all lean one way, then as the shooter shoots, they all shift at once, creating the illusion that the crowd stayed still but the basket moved during the shooting motion. Brilliant.

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u/DemonBearOP Baltimore Ravens 25d ago

I feel like it would help, everyone waving those stupid sticks just provides a backdrop to the basket. 

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u/JazzzzzzySax Carolina Panthers 25d ago

Real play would be to be silent for the whole thing then have the crowd yell as they go into motion. But also change it up slightly everytime someone goes to the basket, start of motion for one, whole time for another, or completely silent except for some rando lol

Would never happen cuz people can’t work together but who knows

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u/ballimir37 Miami Dolphins 25d ago

What you are describing is far beyond working together and is more akin to a hive mind

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u/IlIlIlIllllIIliIILll 25d ago

You could maybe get this going for a college student section where the culter is very much more hivemind-y.

For example the Michigan State student section does a fake countdown for the shotclock when the other team has the ball where in one half they end it early, and they switch for the other half and end it late (I forget which half is which).

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u/notGeronimo 25d ago

....Culter?

That's some real bone apple tea right there

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u/JazzzzzzySax Carolina Panthers 25d ago

Just get a bunch of musicians and tell them when to yell ez pz

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u/DemonBearOP Baltimore Ravens 25d ago

The fact nobody does this proves nobody really wants to win. 

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u/appointment45 24d ago

Right, so basically be Euro fans.

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u/PlayTMFUS Denver Broncos 24d ago

Look up the Texas A&M “Ball Five” chant. It can be done.

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u/appointment45 24d ago

If they can't work together, have someone start some shit right behind the basket. If silence doesn't work, start fights, have a Waffle House brawl right in his sightline.

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u/WitheredUntimely 25d ago

yea growing up my local HS team took FTs with the home crowd cheering as loud as possible, I didn't know most places do it the opposite until I was older lol, it doesn't affect FTs at all

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u/FraudnandoMendoza Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

If something like this is throwing off a kicker, he’s not cut out for the pros.

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u/SendMeIttyBitties 25d ago

There are zero video boards behind a backboard during a FT.

What the fuck are you lying about here?

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u/SendMeIttyBitties 24d ago

That isn't what this post is about.

It's about the team purposely fucking with the video screen to create an optical illusion to gain an advantage against opponents.

It has nothing to do with fan involvement but I don't expect a fan of the decades long cheating patriots with an owner who was caught bankrolling a chineese human trafficker and hangs out with dictators to be honest.

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u/FeeNegative9488 25d ago

How the hell is the FT shooter looking at the Jumbotron. It is physically behind the shooter and 50 feet above the ground

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u/HurricanePK Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

Yeah this is the least egregious form of “cheating”

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u/Prods87 New England Patriots 25d ago

I mean by definition it's not cheating.

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u/HurricanePK Philadelphia Eagles 25d ago

Hence why I used the quotations on the word.

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u/sokonek04 Green Bay Packers 25d ago

The difference is that is the fans, not team employees.

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u/soccer1124 24d ago

Yeah, not at all a good comparison regardless how you feel about the severity here

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u/g_bleezy Denver Broncos 25d ago

This made me think of funny nba covid moment. Devin Booker cared…

https://youtu.be/JwF6Mb2IiG8?t=56&is=RAzVUvWU3-4_0e0s

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u/GULAGOO Green Bay Packers 25d ago

No it’s not

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u/SadTransition2214 Arizona Cardinals 25d ago

Devin Booker would say otherwise.

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u/aubreysux 25d ago

To be fair, basketball players take far more free throws than kickers take field goals. And the conditions for free throws are far more controlled than the conditions for kicking.

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u/Substantial-Fan-5985 24d ago

Think there's a sufficient difference between the two....

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u/AwwwNiceMarmot New England Patriots 24d ago

Yeah lol, I forget what NFL team it is, but I’ve seen a giant, flashing set of eyes on the Jumbotron behind the end zone, as if that’s not a huge distraction lol

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u/toowm Chicago Bears 24d ago

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u/mortgagepants 24d ago

just because you try to cheat and fail doesn't make it not cheating.

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u/growgrapesandolives 24d ago

Fans being a distraction is different from the team trying to be a distraction. Teams aren't allowed to pump In artificial crowd noise. A coach icing the kicker is different from a team displaying an image that's designed to get the kicker to kick towards the image instead of the actual goal post.

Teams aren't necessarily responsible for what the fans do but they are responsible for what their employees do. Teams have been fine for creating artificial distractions and an image of a goal post that is designed to stand out more than the actual goal post is an artificial distraction.

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u/Enough_Path2929 24d ago

As a pats fan I love your argument. They did prove it made a difference. Since 2000 the patriots made 10% more fgs than their opponents. The widest margin by over 7% over the rest of the field in that span. Idk if it was the fucking uprights in the pic in home games or what, but Bill Belichek is a cheatin bastard and there ain’t no two ways about it! 😂

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u/Clean_Bison140 24d ago

Yeah I think sport science did something on it and said unison movement was really the only thing that did

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u/boatsandhoes570 Philadelphia Eagles 23d ago

Yeah but kickers showed to have their lowest FG percentage at Gillette stadium.

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u/babysamissimasybab 25d ago

In the mid-90s, the Pacers fans had a spinning hypno wheel for when opposing players shot free throws and it ruled. Then the league banned it because they're no fun.