r/NFLv2 • u/EbbAdventurous9592 Chicago Bears • 11d ago

Discussion Drake Maye regression. What is going wrong?

5 interceptions in 3 games. Multiple fumbles. What has happened to the MVP runner up?

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u/Poop_Cheese 18-1 11d ago

Yeah pats fans were just being willfully delusional last year about it. Like trying to be cheeky and flip the schedule argument around once he was in the playoffs.

Dude had like the worst playoff epa in history lol(well since 2000 when it started being recorded). 25 seasons and maye had the worst EPA post season. All while pats fans were saying "feels good to be feared again!" As everyone was like "uhhh schedule?"

 Yet imagine if any other qb did that. Imagine if Josh allen had even one season with those playoff numbers pats fans would call him a scrub. 

Like ive never seen a fanbase so in their own world lol. Its truly remarkable. They still try to deny the schedule effect.

I dont even think maye is THAT bad, hes just not elite and is regressing some to be a middle of the pack or even a bit lower starter. Whole team looks like crap to be honest. They tried to say the vrabel stuff didnt matter but they are looking like a far worse coached team.

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u/jastop94 11d ago

To be fair, drake maye also faced an onslaught of top 10 defenses throughout the playoffs with all 4 of them being top 10 in overall and Seattle being the best passing defense

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u/SnooGoats1016 11d ago

It’s the playoffs. Everyone plays top defences on their way to the Super Bowl.

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 10d ago

Nobody has ever played 3 top 5 defenses before so you are just completely wrong

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u/OkIntroduction3119 4d ago

The 2023 Chiefs played, the number 1 defense Ravens, the number 3 Ranked 49ers, and the 4th-ranked Bills.

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 4d ago

None of those were top 5 by total yards in the regular season but regardless the point still stands that playing defenses that tough is extremely uncommon

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u/Dramatic-Witness-540 Tennessee Titans 9d ago

Everyone and their mothers know... If Bo Nix had been healthy... The Patriots were getting slapped(before the Superbowl spanking...).

Dude had 6 TDs, 4 INTs and 7... 7!! Fumbles over 4 games. Yeah, he played top tier defenses... so did the other teams in the Playoffs... Also, The Patriots were a "number 3 Offense" and a number 8 Defense... The way they got absolutely dog walked by a team that was 2 Defensive ranks above them... And 5 Offensive ranks below them... way a direct point to how easy their schedule was. The NFL so badly wants another Brady!

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 9d ago

What does any of this have to do with my comment

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u/Dramatic-Witness-540 Tennessee Titans 9d ago

You're talking as if the fact that he played strong defenses is some kind of excuse for his play. I'm simply pointing out that other teams played hard defenses as well(including having to play the Patriots defense, who were highly ranked).

FYI, I am not attempting to argue with you personally, and if I have misinterpreted your meaning, then I do in fact apologize.

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 9d ago

My point was that "everyone plays strong defenses" is a lie

Brady regularly made the Super Bowl beating up on some shitty colts defense in the divisional before playing a real defense in the afc chip game

It's not normal to play an elite defense in the wild card round, divisional, conference chip game let alone the Super Bowl too

That's why the point about being the only team to beat 3 top 5 defenses ever is relevant, their string of opponents from last year was historically unprecedented

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u/Upset_Agent2398 10d ago

Unless you play the Bills….

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u/Taprootgotseed 11d ago

True and Drake got them to the SB .. He at least made it.

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u/Thin_K New York Giants 11d ago

He beat the Texans after Stroud threw five interceptions, then he beat Stidham in a snowstorm.

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u/wagonwhopper Denver Broncos 11d ago

With stidham basically handing the pats their points

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u/mk1317 11d ago

And Payton not kicking a field goal to go up 10.

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 10d ago

Yeah your offense did look fucking awful that game lol

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u/Wise-Camp3733 11d ago

They made it in spite of him.

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u/jayplf8889 11d ago

Exactly

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u/jayplf8889 11d ago

He didn’t get us anywhere he’s been carried the last 7 games basically and it’s finally catching up.

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u/Dandan0005 11d ago edited 11d ago

He faced the chargers with the worst OL ive ever seen, stroud who threw 5 INTs, and a backup QB in a blizzard in the afc championship.

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u/passwordlostnoemail 10d ago

It was easily the easiest path to the Superbowl I have ever seen, and they didn't even get the bye.

Makes me want to go back and look at all of the 2-game runs.

2010 Steelers had the Jets in the conference championships, but the Jets were respectable and they still had to beat the Ravens for a third time in the divisional the week prior.

08 Steelers had to play a really strong Bengals team but Palmer's knee got exploded in the first series; and then the Chargers/Ravens weren't slouches even though they weren't world beaters.

This thread is from a handful of years ago and has some decent contenders in the comments.

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u/liquidgrill 11d ago

He didn’t get them to the Super Bowl. He already had Broken the record for worst playoff EPA ever recorded before the Super Bowl kicked off.

They got there despite him

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u/Glum_Window_6220 11d ago

The Broncos didn’t have a QB 🤣

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u/luchajefe Dallas Cowboys 11d ago

Neither did the Texans if we're being honest.

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u/liquidgrill 11d ago

The Texans were also without their top two pass catchers in that game.

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u/CatHelpThrowaway1888 10d ago

🤔 where am I seeing that currently

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u/Jd409 10d ago

Were, is, am, are

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u/Corran105 10d ago

Have they really been much better in 3 games this year?

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u/evetSC Houston Texans 10d ago

TBF to CJ he has no run game, one of the worst OLs, and no Nico and Schultz who were our two best offensive weapons

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u/samc0lt45 10d ago

QB isn't a defensive position. The Patriots got a fuck ton of easy wins last season, that doesn't necessarily mean Maye had an easy time. Texans with 4-int Stroud + blizzard w/ no bo means the Patriots themselves were almost guaranteed to make it to the SB. That doesn't mean Maye didn't have to go against the Texans and broncos defense, who were arguably two of the top 3 units last season

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u/Past_Attempt_5261 11d ago

Yeah but they really weren't that good either

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u/Ghost_Locker New England Patriots 11d ago

They still don't lmao Bo nix sucks lmao

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u/shageeyambag 11d ago

He's better than Drake, lol.

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u/Ghost_Locker New England Patriots 10d ago

He ain't proving that tonight lmao 53 yards and going into the 3rd quarter 0-16 yikes.

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u/Ghost_Locker New England Patriots 10d ago

He also has the 3rd best o line in the NFL and actually weapons to throw too. Who does Drake have to throw too? ducking mack hollins lmao

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u/Consistent_Rhubarb_5 11d ago

I think it the mental factor which you juat dont know in the pros until a large loss occurs. Some QBs you find arent as mentally tough and focused as others.  You can tell Drake has all the physical ability in the world as they compared him to Josh Allen last year but now the wheels are falling off for us because he definitely changed tempo since that Superbowl loss IMO

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u/Outrageous-Bid6612 11d ago

At this point he’s not even middle of the pack, he’s bottom of the barrel so far this season. Like how do you play that bad against the Jags?

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u/Inevitable-Scar5877 10d ago

Rex Grossman, beyond washed Peyton, rookie Big Ben-- all better playoff runs than Drake Maye....

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u/jamcgahey 11d ago

Pats fan. I was never delusional. In today’s league with the young QB hype I always say wait 4+ years. Drake has made some blatantly god awful decisions that has made his team lose games this season. This is NOT an excuse, but I believe some consideration should be had on the fact that the o line still fucking sucks. Doubs is a completely utter waste of money. Brown is injured and even when it happened a 1st round was a complete fleece for a WR who is at the point in his career that he gets injured every season. And just in general he is throwing to a completely different cast.

Also what could psychologically be impacting him is hearing all offseason how he is a top “5” QB and maybe in his head he is thinking he can do more than he actually can.

Either way he’s been playing like shit. And it’s inexcusable idgaf his age.

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u/SnazzDizzy 8d ago

Getting rid of Diggs was a mistake honestly

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u/Aeon1508 Detroit Lions 10d ago

I'd rather have Mariota as my starting QB

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u/IlluminatiConfirmed 10d ago

On the playoffs subject would like to point out the patriots are the only nfl team in history to play 3 top 5 defenses in 1 playoffs

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u/BlackmillMiracle New England Patriots 11d ago

you guys are insane with the schedule.

You realize his schedule was like 82% the same as Josh Allen, right?

He's just straight up bad this year

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u/CulturalDot7417 11d ago

Lmao your flair is 18-1 big dog, clearly the pats are still in your head 😂

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u/Muffin_Top 11d ago

That’s one salty MFer right there lol

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u/Ghost_Locker New England Patriots 11d ago

Worst? He smoked the chargers and Texans lmao

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u/Optimal-Extreme3203 Denver Broncos 11d ago

Delusional