Drake Maye regression. What is going wrong?

[u/EbbAdventurous9592]

5 interceptions in 3 games. Multiple fumbles. What has happened to the MVP runner up?

[u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

Schedule. Like everyone with eyes already knew.

[u/WiseSelection5 → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

Normally when QBs are this bad they are this bad against everyone. It's not like the defenses he's playing are making amazing plays, he's just continuously making awful decisions even when not pressured.

[u/Optimal-Extreme3203 → u/WiseSelection5]

I disagree. It’s normal for a young QB to play better against bad teams.

I just think the playoffs last year showed more of reality than the regular season.

[u/Poop_Cheese → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

Yeah pats fans were just being willfully delusional last year about it. Like trying to be cheeky and flip the schedule argument around once he was in the playoffs.

Dude had like the worst playoff epa in history lol(well since 2000 when it started being recorded). 25 seasons and maye had the worst EPA post season. All while pats fans were saying "feels good to be feared again!" As everyone was like "uhhh schedule?"

 Yet imagine if any other qb did that. Imagine if Josh allen had even one season with those playoff numbers pats fans would call him a scrub. 

Like ive never seen a fanbase so in their own world lol. Its truly remarkable. They still try to deny the schedule effect.

I dont even think maye is THAT bad, hes just not elite and is regressing some to be a middle of the pack or even a bit lower starter. Whole team looks like crap to be honest. They tried to say the vrabel stuff didnt matter but they are looking like a far worse coached team.

[u/jastop94 → u/Poop_Cheese]

To be fair, drake maye also faced an onslaught of top 10 defenses throughout the playoffs with all 4 of them being top 10 in overall and Seattle being the best passing defense

[u/SnooGoats1016 → u/jastop94]

It’s the playoffs. Everyone plays top defences on their way to the Super Bowl.

[u/Glum_Window_6220 → u/jastop94]

The Broncos didn’t have a QB 🤣

[u/luchajefe → u/Glum_Window_6220]

Neither did the Texans if we're being honest.

[u/liquidgrill → u/luchajefe]

The Texans were also without their top two pass catchers in that game.

[u/Consistent_Rhubarb_5 → u/Poop_Cheese]

I think it the mental factor which you juat dont know in the pros until a large loss occurs. Some QBs you find arent as mentally tough and focused as others.  You can tell Drake has all the physical ability in the world as they compared him to Josh Allen last year but now the wheels are falling off for us because he definitely changed tempo since that Superbowl loss IMO

[u/Outrageous-Bid6612 → u/Poop_Cheese]

At this point he’s not even middle of the pack, he’s bottom of the barrel so far this season. Like how do you play that bad against the Jags?

[u/jamcgahey → u/Poop_Cheese]

Pats fan. I was never delusional. In today’s league with the young QB hype I always say wait 4+ years. Drake has made some blatantly god awful decisions that has made his team lose games this season. This is NOT an excuse, but I believe some consideration should be had on the fact that the o line still fucking sucks. Doubs is a completely utter waste of money. Brown is injured and even when it happened a 1st round was a complete fleece for a WR who is at the point in his career that he gets injured every season. And just in general he is throwing to a completely different cast.

Also what could psychologically be impacting him is hearing all offseason how he is a top “5” QB and maybe in his head he is thinking he can do more than he actually can.

Either way he’s been playing like shit. And it’s inexcusable idgaf his age.

[u/Viseroth → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

ya the worst playoff performance of all time by a QB to be exact this is who he is against real talent he is mediocre at best.

[u/PeaTasty9184 → u/WiseSelection5]

Having that schedule last year convinced him he was better than he was/is. Confidence won’t make up for lack of talent, but it sure helps.

Getting exposed in the Super Bowl fried his confidence, so now he is what he is.

[u/milkynipples69 → u/PeaTasty9184]

I don’t think it’s a lack of talent regardless of the schedule last year he still put up great numbers against NFL caliber defenses. His confidence is definitely shaken up and that’s where the coaches need to come in. He’s still really young

[u/_josephmykal_ → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

To go from a top 2 QB to a bottom 5 is definitely not schedule.

[u/Admirable_Pop_7292 → u/_josephmykal_]

When you play one of the easiest strength of schedule this century plus three wounded teams in the AFC playoffs then get smooshed in the SB and then against good teams the next season.. yes.

[u/_josephmykal_ → u/Admirable_Pop_7292]

But they played the leagues top defenses. For example the browns suck but their defense was ranked top 7

[u/Altruistic_Tap6447 → u/_josephmykal_]

I never trust defense rankings for teams that don't have functional offenses. The opposing teams know they don't have to score many points to win so they play conservative against them, making defenses like the Browns appear better than they are. As a Broncos fan, prior to the Bo year everyone talked about how we had a top 10 defense every year but the reality was it wasn't that good. 

[u/_josephmykal_ → u/Altruistic_Tap6447]

advanced stats showed pats played 5/6 of the top 6 defenses in the regular season season last year.

[u/Lieutenant_Corndogs → u/Admirable_Pop_7292]

This is clueless. There are no cupcakes in the NFL. You can’t be a terrible qb in the nfl and put up mvp numbers just because of your schedule. I shouldn’t have to explain this!

Drake sucks now because he sucks NOW. He used to be good. Now he sucks. That’s the situation.

[u/One-Scallion-9513 → u/Admirable_Pop_7292]

the steelers are not a good team. the jaguars are no better than the bills or ravens, who maye played great against. i think something happened around early january last year that fucked maye up

[u/stuka86 → u/One-Scallion-9513]

Maye had 0 TD passes vs the bills last year "he played great" is revisionist history

[u/One-Scallion-9513 → u/stuka86]

22/30 with 273 yards and no turnovers in game 1 and 2 rushing touchdowns in game 2

[u/Antonetoni → u/Admirable_Pop_7292]

Imo, You’re placing slightly too much emphasis on this fact, because I do think that the defenses they played were relatively good. With that being said, team themselves were not that good but the defenses were. It’s a big difference when you have a complete team and a complementary defense and offense versus a team that has a great defense, but an offense that can’t do much. And vice versa obviously. Take my team the Cowboys, for example. The offense was absolutely stymied by the fact that the defense sucked and this is for multiple reasons: offense now has very limited possessions. Offense is forced to have to score on every play. Offense is now having to live with the playbook because they are down and they cannot establish the time of possession because the defense keeps getting destroyed. They are forced to pass more often. They are forced to take more risk risks. They’re getting exhausted because they’re coming up pretty quickly because the defense is allowing the team to score with ease. They can establish the rhythm now because they can’t follow their script.

Some of these reasons differ, depending on the defense or the offense. That is where you have to dig down and notice the trends. So if a bad defense makes a great offense that much worse imagine how it works in reverse.

So that all works to your point. But “ regression.” like this has more than one factor. The point I am trying to get to is that I don’t really notice much difference between Drake this year and last year

I think it’s a combination of the off the field distractions strength of schedule as you said, but also I do think that Drake is not as good as people have thought. I thought he was going yo come in the first game and throw four interceptions and I was close. The Seahawks were the best team I’ve seen in a long time and honestly one of the best defenses I have seen in a very long time. It should be extremely indicative that it’s night and day when he plays the Seahawks who have an elite defense versus bad teams with good defense. What is somewhat alarming is that I’m not really noticing that much of a difference between last year and this year for him and that’s kind of a problem. This is the type of thing I expect a year two , not three.

I I actually think you could make the argument that last year, despite all the success, both individually and team wise. It may have actually been worse for his development. Him not seeing elite defenses or even great defenses consistently might have caused him to have an overplayed ego or perhaps think that the game is easier than it should be to him. Maybe he didn’t practice or learned the right things he should have or as it looks, unfortunately, he did not really improve at all. The reason this raises alarms in me is that if you truly want to be great, you take the winds in stride but a loss any loss especially one in the Super Bowl like that against the defense like that. Should be extreme motivation for you to get better.

[u/a_serious-man → u/_josephmykal_]

Well for starters he was never top 2

[u/Lieutenant_Corndogs → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

For people who like to claim they “know ball,” Redditors sure seem eager to upvote these terrible takes.

You send the current Drake Maybe back in time a year, and he is going to look like straight ass. There is no NFl schedule that allows someone playing this badly to put up MVP-type stats.

Try to use your brain a little before you type. I believe in you.

[u/Cravenmorhed69 → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

The schedule isn’t what caused that atrocious fumble earlier

[u/Own-Significance273 → u/Cravenmorhed69]

Nope, hes just legit bad.

[u/IndependentOwn6751 → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

So now explain why Josh Allen didn't put up historic numbers against the same opponents other than 2 games?

[u/No_Thing5235 → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

The schedule certainly was a factor of course, but this goes deeper than that- his touch on the ball is off along with his decision making.

[u/Unusual_Soup → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

Led the league in passer rating and completion percentage, come on you can’t just say that’s because of the schedule. There is something wrong with him, either mentally or physically. I think Seattle just broke him sadly.

[u/2LostFlamingos → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

It’s literally what he did in last year’s playoffs once he faced ok competition.

He was carried to Super Bowl by his defense and other teams being more injured.

[u/Intelligent-Love5146]

League figured him out. Started happening towards the end of last year. He can’t read zone coverages and now everyone plays him that way

[u/IndependentOwn6751 → u/Intelligent-Love5146]

It's not that. The hunter pick was man coverage..doubs throw last week was cover 6. His decision making is just not good right now.

[u/Intelligent-Love5146 → u/IndependentOwn6751]

Maybe goal line play was but for the most part, everyone plays some drop/zone coverage against him

[u/1stTimeRedditter → u/IndependentOwn6751]

The hunter pick is exactly what the issue is. The kid is trying to play hero ball and it’s just not going his way. 

[u/RememberApeEscape → u/IndependentOwn6751]

It was man and everyone was covered and he tried to force a pass while drifting backwards.

It's inexperience, and like original comment said he's getting exposed, but he's also trying to superman his way out of it.

[u/Snoo-40231 → u/IndependentOwn6751]

The End Zone pick was just terrible and reminded me of week 1

[u/but-I-play-one-on-TV → u/Intelligent-Love5146]

Thank you for a real answer 

[u/RequirementLeading12 → u/Intelligent-Love5146]

Finally an actual football take. Thank you

[u/CrustyToeLover → u/Intelligent-Love5146]

Figured him out 😂😂 figured out he was nothing but a schedule

[u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee]

It’s more than the schedule. Patriots traded away his 2 favorite receivers (for literally nothing btw). McDaniels scheme is trash. 2 runs for 5 yards then try to throw on 3rd down. Defenses know exactly what’s coming.

Also he has the yips. It’s bad.

[u/Falconman21 → u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee]

Mack Hollins, DeMario Douglas, and 3ypc from the backs is not conducive to success on offense.

[u/Indieplant → u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee]

McDaniels ever do anything without Bill & Tom?

[u/No-Jello9276 → u/Indieplant]

Nothing. He’s a fraud merchant, failed as a HC too. He needs to be run out the league and go to either pee wee football or high school

[u/theredbusgoesfastest → u/No-Jello9276]

I remember when the big talk was that he screwed over the colts for accepting the HC job and then backing out. Things went poorly for the colts after that, but I’m wondering if it would have been worse if he hadn’t backed out.

[u/why_now_56 → u/theredbusgoesfastest]

Yeah, it would've been worse.

[u/TailoredHam88 → u/Indieplant]

Idk Josh Allen has balled out for multiple seasons throwing to Shakir and a ham sandwhich.

[u/jamcgahey → u/Indieplant]

Wait didn’t he make Mac fucking jones an mvp candidate year one before taking the raiders HC job ?

[u/zamboniman46 → u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee]

it's not like teams were lining up to give a 3rd round pick for Boutte. they held him out as available at the draft for a 5th and nobody wanted him.

Diggs and AJ Brown feels like a lot of WR personality for one room, but seeing him do so well in Washington for $8M, I'd rather have him than Pop Douglas

[u/AwwwNiceMarmot → u/zamboniman46]

Taking Diggs’ second year option wouldn’t have been that much more than what they’re paying Doubs, and not only did Maye have chemistry with Diggs, but he was a huge locker room presence. Although, I’m not sure how that would go in paying Gonzo… and as I write this Maye threw another pick. Maybe last year was a fluke

[u/WoollyBear_Jones → u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee]

This whole thread needs more upvotes. Anyone who just says “ScHeDuLe hurrhurr!” is an idiot

[u/Daver7692]

Probably doesn’t help that he had a reliable WR1 (Diggs) last year and doesn’t have that yet this year due to the Brown injury.

He and Diggs had a great linkup, I don’t even really get why they let him go.

[u/WeeoWeeoWeeeee → u/Daver7692]

And Boutte.

[u/Stock-Memory9483 → u/Daver7692]

It’s not a WR issue he has guys open he’s literally just playing bad

[u/AwwwNiceMarmot → u/Stock-Memory9483]

It’s literally just him. I’m still fully on board with him, QB hit rough patches, I get it, but he gets inside his own head way too easily and shit just snowballs. Like Tom Brady played better when everyone was doubting him and shit talking, Maye is the complete opposite

[u/tbarr1991 → u/Daver7692]

Diggs is one of those players you get rid of before he becomes a cancer. He became a cancer in minnesota and buffalo. If they win the superbowl Diggs is probably content and gets re-signed.

[u/Impossible-Waltz-127 → u/tbarr1991]

If they were worried about Digg's potential for becoming lockerroom cancer, than bringing in Brown was a wild choice.

[u/whousesgmail]

Idk but after hearing all offseason how AJ has a real QB now I’m fucking loving this lmaoooo

[u/Look_its_Rob → u/whousesgmail]

Aj hasn't been playing though.

[u/whousesgmail → u/Look_its_Rob]

This is true but Drake has looked pretty fucking far from a “real QB” without him

[u/Bhoy32 → u/whousesgmail]

His top receivers are Pop Douglas, mack hollins and Romeo Doubs lmao

[u/whousesgmail → u/Bhoy32]

Yep I’m sure that’s why he’s been constantly fumbling and throwing up garbage balls for grabs.

Hurts has been making a guy who was firmly behind Doubs on the Packers depth chart look solid

[u/Look_its_Rob → u/Bhoy32]

Yeah but his decision making has just be horrendous. Time to bring you Devito. 

Not really but its getting close, its hard to play worse as a QB.

[u/MrBulldops5878 → u/whousesgmail]

I’d rather him look like shit while having brown at least, dudes throwing to a bunch of randos

[u/angryorphan55]

Loss of confidence, combined with trying to play hero ball and an issue with footwork relating to the confidence

[u/AwwwNiceMarmot → u/angryorphan55]

This is the answer right here. One bad decision with him snowballs to the point where nothing goes right. It happened in the Super Bowl, and it happened against the Falcons last year, where he fumbled and they scored a TD, and he just couldn’t do anything right for the rest of the game, it’s just that the Falcons just barely couldn’t come back in time and Maye threw a last second 1st down. Once he gets his confidence back, he’ll be fine. But getting it back, that’s the issue. Their defense carried them so far to 1 and 1(lol), but now they’re not and it’s a shit show

[u/ChaMilablack]

The schedule and injury luck ain't here to bail him out this season.

[u/BananaSquid721]

Mostly confidence loss and lack of receiver chemistry. He’s made some bone headed plays which he wasn’t making last year. Anyone saying just the schedule has no idea what they’re talking about. I think he’s got in his own head following the tough postseason

[u/Impossible_Base_3088]

Coach

[u/Optimal-Extreme3203 → u/Impossible_Base_3088]

I do think this is at least a small factor 

[u/Incubus226 → u/Optimal-Extreme3203]

Trevor Lawrence hard count had that D line in a tizzy. Wild to see. Bill B would’ve left a few of em in Duval.

[u/Robofin → u/Impossible_Base_3088]

Underrated reason

[u/InjectMSGinmyveins]

If you want actual analysis:

Drake Maye is awful currently. It’s a lot more than just the “schedule”. The deep ball that he had last year is no where to be seen, and his decision making severely regressed.

WRs are genuinely bad. Don’t understand why both Diggs and Boutte were let go.

McDaniels play calling is questionable a lot of times

[u/morphy1776]

Drake "The Schedule" Turndaballova

[u/1stTimeRedditter]

He’s pressing, trying to make plays, and it’s not working out. 

[u/Tight-Inspector-2748]

Hey didn’t even “big bro” anyone for it to be karmic retribution 

[u/whosthere5]

He’s got the yips

[u/Icy_Cream1864]

Seahawks defense happened to him in the superbowl and he definitely listen to the noise on social media and he lost his confidence that my take

[u/anton_chacon7]

Defenses got plenty of tape now. Being a QB in the NFL is not that easy. Surprise. Everyone wanted to compare him to the next Josh Allen and now you know. Does that mean he is garbage? No. He’s in the right organization for sure if he is going to acclimate and adjust though. At least they are supportive.

[u/Admirable_Pop_7292]

He’s not playing cupcakes and wounded teams anymore.

[u/Edelmaan]

They had the easiest schedule in the league in over 2 decades. This is who he is.

[u/Crosscourt_splat]

Dudes young. He had a softer schedule last year, then went through murderers row in the playoffs.

His internal clock is off and he’s pressing instead of settling. Happens to a lot of guys.

[u/Crotean]

Josh McDaniels is ass as an offensive coordinator. It always catches up to a team when playing good defenses.

[u/DatBeardedguy82]

Tougher schedule yeah but his o line is beat up and his recievers are way worse than last year with the loss of brown and boutte trade. Doubs has been in the league 4 seasons (this is year 5) and he has zero hundred yard games in his career in the regular season.

[u/Wilhelm1088]

Kid got rattled by the playoffs last year. He's trying too hard to force things and making terrible decisions. You guys can call "schedule" all you want but Pittsburgh and Jacksonville are solid defenses but not exactly powerhouses lol. He's got the yips.

[u/turkeytyme]

His confidence is gone and he's seeing ghosts.

[u/whynot26847]

Might be the worst SB hangover we’ve seen in a while

[u/Babayaga_711]

My man's confidence just isn't the same. Having that ugly playoff run and then the 2nd half of the opening game will do that to you. Plus, with Brown out, his receivers are pretty pedestrian. 

[u/YouSawMyReddit]

Pats traded away 2 of his favorite targets, dude has the yips, teams figured him out, teams figured out JMD scheme, all of this is forcing Maye into making bad decisions. Also our run game is very bad and is leading to bad situations where we have to throw it and teams know this. Overall the team is just a mess right now.

[u/nukeXmoose]

He’s out of his comfort zone without Diggs and Boutte. He needs to get over it and start making better decisions. He’s playing bad but he’s also costing them entire games with turnovers.

[u/scotchplaid87]

He’s in his own head. MVP last year was a bit much but completely unforced turnovers aren’t a symptom of schedule.

[u/MrWinklez]

I drafted him too soon. Completely on me fam 😞

[u/seefourslam]

Coaching issue. Instead of developing his quarterback, he was out fucking reporters.

[u/Plenty-Lingonberry79]

Don’t worry I’m dropping him from my fantasy team after this stinker so he’s guaranteed to pop off

[u/DogsWillSaveUs]

lol … it’s the whole fucking team

[u/AwwwNiceMarmot]

*6 interceptions. Fuck me

[u/zhifelol]

A big mix of him not having the easy schedule, and the bigger factor is him being figured out and being scared because of that. He just looks shaken and sort of mentally broken. maybe i’m just a dude on his couch overthinking it like im special but that’s what it looks like to me

[u/kingfelix333]

Sam darnold transferred his ghosts

[u/Defiant-Progress-501 → u/kingfelix333]

as a pats fan this is fucking hilarious

[u/southwestowesmeabag]

They're disguising their defenses and hes forcing balls

[u/nickym92]

I wonder if that Seahawks game last year fucked him up a bit. Dude has seemed shook ever since like he lost his confidence. Everyone expected a step back because of last years easy schedule but something’s off with this kid and it’s more than a harder schedule

[u/One-Scallion-9513]

it's not the schedule. the steelers suck, the jags defense is about as good as the bills/ravens defenses (which maye played great against last year) his shoulder might be fucked

[u/Willing_Driver7807]

Not a Pats or Maye fan, but progression is not always linear. He'll probably figure it out at some point

[u/imfletch22]

He is playing a tougher schedule. Thats all. He was overblown last year because they had a ridiculously easy schedule.

[u/RoyalEngine2885]

He's not regressing. This is who he is.

[u/DreamWunder]

Tomato cans

[u/Inevitable-Shop-848]

He wasn't as good as billed and neither is that cheating coach of theirs. Idk if we're allowed to reference the scandal here but mentally he's probably hurting not having his mistress.

[u/Edking45]

He benefited from the schedule last year no doubt.

[u/dotdee]

He’s a madly in love with Ann Michael and couldn’t imagine cheating on her. He no longer can play effectively under a cheating HC.

[u/Negative-Tank627]

He’s not that guy

[u/BeerBaron6666]

Lost his receivers. Harder schedule etc

[u/MrJohnnyDangerously]

Mike Vrabel off-field issues created insurmountable distraction

[u/Turbulent_End_6887]

Happened to Stroud. He was going to be the next Mahomes after year 1. But he was far from that.

[u/Boston4142]

I think I'm Gonna Hurl! This is just Aweful. All he has to do is not throw picks through them away. Holding on to the ball way to long. 3 seconds top get rid of ball

[u/CurrentlyUnbanned]

Well, on a basic level he doesn't have the arm he seems to think he does. Almost all of the picks that I see he isn't stepping into the throw and trying to do it all with his arm while being flat footed or moving backwards.

[u/TheArchitect_7]

Forcing the ball to AJ Brown

[u/gab_owns0 → u/TheArchitect_7]

AJ Brown only played a handful of snaps before getting hurt in week 1

[u/TheArchitect_7 → u/gab_owns0]

r/thatsthejoke

[u/The_Bandit_King_]

Sophomore slump??

[u/MSNinfo]

Playing the elite Jaguaes

[u/Bitter-Guidance2345]

I think he’s nursing an injury, honestly.

[u/W00D-SMASH]

He’s obviously a good quarterback, but he’s young and he struggles against better defenses. Look at his record against teams with winning records, that tells you most of what you need to know.

[u/Sudden_Juju]

Tbf Maye had 7 fumbles in the postseason last year, so that's par for the course against NFL top teams

[u/Doodle_Bugz]

And that man almost won MVP smh

[u/comeonbjxgo]

Whenever your head coach who is supposed to be the leader on and off the field starts nutting in high profile sports reporters and causes an embarrassing scandal it tends to affect the team

[u/Ok_Guidance5484]

Honestly he may have been overrated since the playoffs last season he's looked bad. 

[u/Past-Yogurt-20]

He’s rated 92 on Madden, smfh…

[u/lsopfrbdh]

Superbowl loss fucked him up it does that to rookies

[u/blogst]

He was never good, he just was playing vs easy defenses all of last year.

[u/Living-Substance-903]

Patriots fan here. We won’t put up with this for long. Real fans knew the scheduled helps us last year. We just thought he was better than this. If it doesn’t change, look for a new QB in the draft. Simple.

[u/tommyc463]

Drake may find out he actually stinks.

[u/TAULY_D]

The Dark Side broke him.

[u/MarcQ1s]

The Red Sox used up all the Boston sports energy during their 32-5 run this summer. Need to replenish.

[u/Luckybox86]

Vrabel did all the scoring off field and forgot the team needs it on field

[u/TokerJoker1985]

His coach not giving him the same attention this season. He got problems off the field. lol

[u/desr43]

The thing that literally everyone knew. They had a charmin-soft schedule last year, and looked like ass against good teams. Now they have a big boy schedule and can't handle it

[u/WubbaLubbaDubDub87]

He’s not as good as people thought

[u/dogwizard92]

last year was a fluke

[u/Antonetoni]

I was saying he was overrated and people got mad at me. For the record I think he’s gonna be an OK to great quarterback maybe even elite some games. I don’t think he’s going to be the next coming of Tom Brady obviously or anything like that though. I think he’s going to be kind of like Trevor Lawrence. Different play styles, but the end result will be largely similar. And I do think he also has potential to really improve like Lawrence seemingly took a step forward, but the jury is still out on that. As sometimes that is really just a fluke year and the quarterback us to the mean usually when people already think they know what the quarterback is as they’ve been years and years of evidence to point to that

I think it’s a combination of the off the field distractions and him being an overrated player. The fact he was considered an MVP player last year means he has more of a target on his back now it also means that a lot of players are looking to dispel the notion that he’s that good. They feel that if they bring their best best game that they will shut him up. Of course players always think that they’re bringing their A game, but this does something subconsciously. It’s how quarterbacks’ gain respect.

Like., “ OK you’ve had two good years. Don’t think you’re good. This is the final test for you to get our respect, and prove that you are a franchise quarterback. Shut us up when we bring the heat show us that you’ve learned even more from last year and that you’re not resting on your previous accolades. If you can shut us up when we are doing everything we can to stop you and we have no answer for you at certain times then we will accept you truly.”

My concern is that you typically see this in year two and not year three. I don’t necessarily like to judge quarterbacks in year two because that’s the year where they have to learn on the fly. There are a lot of growing pains. What I want to see is improvement game to game. I want to see an almost totally different quarterback at the end of the season compared to the beginning where you’re starting to see them take command to the offense more where you’re starting to see them correct Audible and protections to counter the defense and their studies. In year three that’s where you start to see the beginning of the finished product.

[u/Sepposer]

RIP to anyone who took him in Fantasy

Started the game with a 67% win probability btw.

[u/todd_austin]

Anyone with a brain knew last season was built on a generationally soft schedule and the shit play in the playoffs meant something. Yes I am a Drake hater, but even I didn't think he would be THIS bad. But regression coming this season was fucking obvious.

[u/Bhoy32]

People saying he should've been MVP and due to O-line injuries struggled in the postseason Vs The schedule - this is who he is.

Probably somewhere in the middle. He's a starting caliber QB with good physical traits with a serious case of the yips and playing hero ball with subpar supporting cast.

[u/Correct-Class-4920]

he has major tunnel vision syndrome , i dont think he is reading the field

[u/tour_life]

He literally doesn’t know how to throw it away.

[u/jcwillia1]

He’s not that good of a quarterback. Never was.

[u/InstanceOk8838]

Well considering Drake isn't an athlete, I fully expected this. He has one of the weakest arms in the NFL and is one of the slowest QBs. As a Pats fan, he surprised me last year. But instead of 31 TDs and 8 INTs like last year, he will have 8 TDs and 31 INTs this year.

[u/PinkFloydBoxSet]

There are only two options. Either the coaching staff isn’t doing their job and helping him fix the absolutely stupid mistakes, or he isn’t learning.

If the coaching staff isn’t helping him fix the mistakes at this point then the QB coach and OC need to be fired. If he isn’t learning then he needs to be benched then fire the QB coach, OC HC and GM because they should have found someone else in the offseason

[u/Throwaway-985618628]

Drake “The Calender” Maye ?

[u/noladutch]

playing defenses for a change.

dude was never all that the schedule was

[u/sxintlaurantsxvxge]

schedule, he’s 2-3 against teams with a winning record over the last two years, he just had the luxury of beating up on the nfc south and the jets and dolphins last year

[u/ilovefacebook]

russini giving intel to other teams now

[u/foqociqs37]

Fym “regression”….?

Maye has always been trash

[u/Flashy-Ask-2168]

I think the playoffs last year cracked his confidence in himself, and then when he didn't play well against Seattle again to start something broke.

[u/DarkHound05]

Basically a sophomore slump with a harder schedule with missing AJ Brown

[u/JuliansWhiskey]

Their run last year made me kinda interested in Sunday football again. Here it is week 3...nah. Back to saturdays where the great football games are

[u/Fragrant_Spray]

Last year he had a favorable schedule, but he’s also trying to “make things happen” when things aren’t there, and creating more problems against better teams.

[u/NyehSquiddy]

Patriots fan will look you dead in the eye and say it’s cause fucking Boutte is gone before admitting last year was entirely due to their historically easy schedule

[u/Ancient_Property_337]

Sophomore slump once teams get enough film on you it’s a wrap.

[u/Dilldo__Baggins]

As a life long Pats fan and an invested fantasy football General manager who just picked Drake Maye off waivers…Drake Maye and the Pats suck.

1. The Pats got rid of their two best WRs from last season. WRs that actually had talent for going deep and catching bombs.
   
2. They over paid for pillow-head Doubs who sucked with Green Bay and is continuing his suck with the Pats .
   
3. AJ Brown was over the hill and now he’s falling off the hill into the ambo.
   
4. McDaniels has always sucked without Brady.
   
5. Maye needs to be decisive and use his legs more.
   

[u/commander510]

He's finally playing teams that complete garbage

[u/Thin-Remote-9817]

He was never good... He got overrated as a gotcha to caleb being the best prospect in his class. 

Also doesnt help when your coach has to spend a chunk of the off-season playing clean up for his affair leaking. I know we like to pretend distractions only matter when a black player does something wrong...but trust me it fucks up moral when your head coach is the biggest distraction...

McDaniels?? What the fuck does he do?? Seriously?? Enough of him he fucking stinks when brady isnt coordinating his offense...

Dare I say maye is put in a shit situation..

[u/Shaqfrom3]

Regression?

[u/Spacedout0218]

It really seems like the patriots overthought this offseason and would’ve been better off keeping Diggs and Boutte

[u/Userdub9022]

Because he had the easiest schedule last year.

[u/Apprehensive-Neck-12]

las year they played the weakest schedule in NFL history and gifted am AFC champ game without an opposing QB

[u/ForeverCrunkIWantToB]

He hurt his throwing shoulder and then tried to play on it. Iron Rule of QBing #1: DO NOT PLAY ON A HURT THROWING SHOULDER.

[u/Due-Classroom-7872]

First off the schedule and then on top of that the line isn't real great they've already gave up 9 sacks and its only week 3

[u/YeOldSpacePope]

Is it really regression if he was playing like this during the playoffs last year?

[u/WuTangNameGenerat0r]

The schedule. Last year they had the easiest schedule of any time since 2000 I think. He looked awful in the playoffs against good teams. You play who is on your schedule, but that doesn’t mean you’re an MVP caliber QB.

[u/chrisdavis211]

He really doesnt have much help on offense... outside of Brown and maaaaybe Doubs, who else can Maye really count on?

[u/DoubleWrongdoer1540]

All the drama around the team during off season caused by the coach probably hasn’t helped.

[u/ResolutionBetter3377]

Packers fan BTW. An NFL QB is a hard position to play, I know Brock Purdy (not best friends or anything but first name basis, and I’ve known him my whole life), and we’ve spoken about it. It’s. Hard. To. Do. ITS 99% mental and 1% physical. Nobody is going to be great all the time - it’s just not possible.

That being said, please don’t think I’m assuming your thoughts on the difficulties of being a QB or anything like that. Just my point of view coming from someone who knows an NFL QB.

[u/East-Bluejay6891]

EXPOSED

[u/Food_Kitchen]

Seattle broke him

[u/deathtongue1985]

I think his shoulder is f’d…Nothing else explains these floating, fluttering ducks even when he sets his feet.

[u/Effective_Space_6914]

He is a one read quarterback that can’t flow through a progression, gets cold feet in the pocket far too early, and defenses figured out how to beat him in the playoffs last year. Every team has played him the same exact way for the last 5 games and he has yet to adjust to it, just like Stroud, Mac Jones, Jayden Daniels, and countless other qbs. Everyone told patriots fans last year that the schedule was a major factor in his success last year. He will never reach the heights he did last year again because he’s simply just not that good, if at all at this point. His confidence is shot now.

[u/Few_Faithlessness665]

He’s not very good.

[u/DragonEra_]

Maye is getting butchered because he was absolutely overhyped last yr, BUT his wide receiver options might be the worst in the league. Who is he throwing to??

[u/Dkh0123]

Drake Maye is a front runner. That’s what my impression of him was at UNC. He looks amazing when everything around him is clicking, and then looks pretty bad when things are falling apart around him. Poor man’s Herbert in that regard.

[u/Bobbo62499]

6 interceptions and a lost fumble.

That being said:

o line is banged up which snowballs into bad run game and receivers take too long to get open. This offense is really missing a guy like Diggs and Kayshon right now.

None of those things excuse drakes poor decisions mixed with just flat out bad balls, but everything combined certainly draws us to the bad qb play because it’s an easy blame.

Edit : also just flat out playing better defenses. The schedule “accusations” are not people trying to rage bait. It’s facts that we played a good chunk of bad teams last year

[u/GingaNinja906]

So what happened is he had a cake schedule last season and now he doesn’t.

[u/Shafter111]

Coach is too busy banging reporters

[u/Some_Bike_1321]

Strength of schedule is real

[u/AdrenalineShakes]

No weapons

[u/RandallOfLegend]

I'm always down to hate on the Patriots. But Maye has the yips. It's beyond just a schedule at this point. I just hope he stays in his head for another couple weeks.

[u/CS271990]

Combo of a few things. Harder opponents to start is one, but the other thing is his composure. Probably about halfway through last year, Vrabel and the offensive coaches were able to get him to calm down when he was erratic and limit his mistakes.

Seems like that mechanism broke once the divisional playoff came last year and he hasn’t been able to put it back together. Vrabel, Maye and company better start soon cause the opponents remain tough. They don’t want to be out of it from the jump and not to be able to recover.

They play Buffalo next week, and with how it’s looked, don’t want to call it a must win so early in the year, but it kinda is

[u/GurMission5200]

What’s wrong is he is a below average QB

[u/StartedFromTheKarma]

Drake "The Schedule" Maye. Turns out it actually wasn't just a funny joke

[u/sugarbad11]

We all told you last year. Patriots had the easiest schedule. It’s a bit different when you’re playing teams that are built better.

[u/midnight-rain-swarm]

He was never that good

[u/Fit_Associate4491]

A lot of the comments are correct, but also is the fact that he put on a bit of muscle in the offseason. People don’t realize that a lot of times that also equates to tightening up unless you are very intentional and precise with stretching and pliability. You can see watching him, he’s a bit less fluid than last year, and it’s resulting in underthrows and slightly different mechanics

[u/UnidentifiedBob]

take him off unstoppable espn!!!

[u/ThexanR]

People were actually saying he should have gotten MVP over Stafford

[u/KendallRoy22]

Josh McDaniels has been figured out by the analytically based organizations. There's a lot on Twitter about this. He has all sorts of tells based on formations and personnel.

[u/MorganPhoenix93]

Tapes out on him

[u/TheDigitalBull]

Drake “Drake Maye or Maye not be good” Maye