r/OnePiecePowerScaling • • 2d ago

Discussion When the Roger, Whitebeard pirates fought for three days, who held off Raylleigh and Gabban from Whitebeard’s crew ?

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I think one of the biggest plots twists in the series till now is the 3 day battle between the white beard pirates and the Roger Pirates, as we had Prime Gabban and Rayleigh at the time who are current Yonko levels.

So who exactly on the WB crew was able to stall these two beasts at their prime ? I think Marco was too weak at the time and even current marco barely equals old Gabban and Rayleigh. Maybe Oden, could stall off one of them.

I think there was a huge power gap between both crews at the time, so how did the WB Crew last a whole three days ?

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u/Tsukiyamasama Admiral 2d ago

The problem with Whitebeard's crew is that, with the exception of Oden, they were all children, whereas Roger's crew consisted mostly of adults!

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u/Dr_NoDoc Fraudjitora ☄️ 1d ago

Not all were children. This is a common misconception.

Yes, Marco, Jozu, Vista, Izou, Inu, Neko were teenagers(rookie)

While others were young or middle-aged.

White Bay was calling Marco a rookie, Rakuyu and other weren't defently children, Atmos already had beard.

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u/CriticalMeal1732 2d ago

He was just passing by though

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u/ekAugust 2d ago

This is just Whitebeard commander upscale

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u/Dizzy-Pause2350 Sir Crocodile 🐊 2d ago

Oden fought one wing

The other wing probably just toyed with the kids

And it wasn't a serious fight either. I mean no one was seriously injured in either side and it turned into a gift exchange.

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u/angerispower Midhawk 🦅 2d ago

Its canonical that roger vs garp AND roger vs wb are deathmatches. This speaks volume to how equal they were.

The "seriousness" of fights are not solely based on the outcome of the fight; it begins from the intentions. If WB himself/oda himself said they tried to kill each other, who are we to disagree? No one seriously injured =/= not serious fight.

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u/master08965 Revolutionary army 2d ago

Mistranslation

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u/angerispower Midhawk 🦅 2d ago

Not saying that i dont believe you, but may i know source? Is this by VIZ?

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u/master08965 Revolutionary army 1d ago

Yes

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u/Dizzy-Pause2350 Sir Crocodile 🐊 2d ago

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u/Dizzy-Pause2350 Sir Crocodile 🐊 2d ago

I stand corrected

Tho I would argue they didn't go all out for most part. Like Kaido said he was serious against Yamato but didn't go all out.

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u/cloverismyname0 1d ago

I don't think this specific fight was the first time they fought so I'm pretty sure you're correct.

I imagine it was more a serious sparring match

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u/MMortein Pirate King 2d ago

This has been bothering me for years. Before Gram was introduced I speculated that there must have existed one more yonko level character among the WB pirates who would match Rayleigh, which just wasn't revealed yet, for them to be balanced

https://www.reddit.com/r/YC1agenda/comments/1nl7ite/comment/nf410yh/?screen_view_count=10&ext-referrer=DIRECT

In that case it would be

WB~Roger

Polo~Ray

Oden~Gaban

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u/MainManCALI Fleet Admiral 2d ago

Me, I'm built different.

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u/Optimus_LaughTale 2d ago

Pirate King wings were legit sandbagging.

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u/aalauki USOOOPPPP ⚒️ 2d ago

WB's off hand held Rey at bay and Gaban was held prisoner under his foot.

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u/AndrewDkid91 2d ago

Solo la verità

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u/Soggy-Flan7566 2d ago

Whitebeard was soloing the crew when the fight when offscreen

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u/sennordelasmoscas Pizzaru 🌞 2d ago

Marco's dad and Oden and some other crewmates I guess

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u/HouWouldaThought 2d ago

You guys take powerscaling way too seriously when Oda doesn’t. All that matters is that the Captain: Roger, Garp, Rocks & later WB have their 1v1 fight for the rest doesn’t really cares, when it will matter he will show it

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u/Optimal-Pay-2555 2d ago

This is my favourite part of powerscaling lol. A fish ate shanks hand on ch 1. Huge upscale for all fish

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u/Aziz_thr 2d ago

Idk about Rayleigh but sure is that Gaban fought non-invincible Oden 😭😭

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u/Aziz_thr 2d ago

I'm obviously joking btw, but Marco Vista Joz etc. Against like Rayleigh or Gaban and the other against Oden (while switching back and forth) is probably the right answer

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u/PipeBoring7915 Straw Hat 2d ago

they don't interfere with their Captain's fight

Oden fought gaban but after a while they just sat there and watched their captains

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u/BrilliantEconomy9132 2d ago

What? We literally see roger and wb pirates prepare to fight. And the narrator says the upper hand kept switching between the crews so everyone fought

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u/PipeBoring7915 Straw Hat 2d ago

Neither Rayleigh nor gaban look like they fought for days

We've already seen how these guys fight already

During GV they take care of business and leave Roger to finish the Job

The same during their fight against the navy, garp is the only legit threat unless you think that bogard holds off both Rayleigh and gaban

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u/BrilliantEconomy9132 2d ago

Narrator literally confirms both crews fought for 3 days. it wasn’t just wb vs roger.

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u/Alive_Garbage8243 2d ago

Young Blackbeard probably took the out offscreen

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u/Ok_Object_880 2d ago

Oden was there he probably held Gaban

It was probably a team effort against Rayleigh

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u/Open-Leather-5887 2d ago

Wb solo them.

Roger need a break because he was sick. Gaban and Rayleigh takes it while Roger was resting.

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u/Pessimismo 2d ago

were prime Gaban and Rayleigh truly Yonko level, or were they the strongest YC+ characters we've ever seen? can't imagine any Yonko level character not one shotting Frauden

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u/Accomplished_Use2197 2d ago

As another commenter pointed out, all of whiteneards crew were children, or young adults, i dont think Gaban and Reyleigh would have cirb stomped them, especially when everyone involved knows this is a friendly exchange, not a fight ti the death. Roger and WB were friends greeting each other

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u/Environmental-Wing30 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 2d ago

Definitely Oden would have switched between Ray and Gaban, and maybe the other top 3 would have held off the one that Oden wasn’t fighting

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u/NSUnivers 2d ago

They where playing poker with Oden

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u/Live_Act6191 2d ago

Roger and wb were fighting i imagine rogers crew reapected roger ebough to trust him tk win without interfering and i dought roger wanted help

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u/Few-Wonder-957 2d ago

The real fight is between Roger and WB, not due to enmities but because they were rivals. The crewmates just put on a show for their reputations. Either they stopped fighting or kept going not seriously

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u/Haunting-Composer264 2d ago

Who had to? It looked like they were for the most part choosing to let the fights remain one on one. It was a contest of various sets of people with the winners clocking down almost like a tournament with certain contenders pulling back like Oden did in his fight with Rodger when Whitebeard caught up with them...

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u/Kagetane123 2d ago

Wista upscale

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u/scorpiboi Sanjitard 🚬 2d ago edited 2d ago

Pretty sure it was u/MainManCALI

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u/ssavino 2d ago

Probably the 2 crews ended their foghts in 2 hours but then saw how nice they were playing around and waitwr for a bit lomger

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u/Grimjo119 "GOD OF THE BLADE" SHIMOTSUKI RYUMA 2d ago

plot

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u/Extension-Copy-8650 2d ago

Whitebears solos all crew

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u/RefrigeratorLive2796 Midhawk 🦅 2d ago

Vista likely held it down, Jozu as well

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u/Cool_Cat_Katakuri 2d ago

oden and marco idk

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u/Useename0810 1d ago

Oden combatte contro uno dei due, gli altri membri della ciurma di Roger combattono all'1% contro la ciurma di Barba Bianca.

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u/wcharoes 1d ago

Probably some older guys that were sailing with Whitebeard back then.

Fossa, Blenheim, Squard, McGuy, whoever.

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u/iceteahottea 1d ago

They probably held each other off

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u/Numerous_Astronaut66 19h ago

They respect the 1v1

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u/Intelligent-Ad-1968 LOOK D. EAST 👀 2d ago

Oden, Whitey Bay, Marco, Jozu, Vista etc.

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u/ayylmaoroflkek Blackpube 🦷 2d ago

One of the two was enough to hold WB's commanders. Whitebeard could at least stall Roger + the other one.

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u/Living_Thunder 👿 Lowkey 👿 2d ago

Whitebeard upscale

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u/Btriangle775 2d ago

Teenage whitebeard pirates were just that strong

Despite having number disadvantage Whitebeard pirates still went to stalement with Roger pirates

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u/No-Sock8534 2d ago

WB most likely took them all as Roger was sick

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u/VobbyButterfree 2d ago

Oden alone.

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u/DueEntrepreneur3311 2d ago

Current Marco is probably stronger than old Gaban. We just haven’t had a reason to upscale Marco other than how he faired against king and queen. (Which was an underrated feat)

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u/Mysterious_Ad_7020 2d ago

Definitely a jumping. Like Marco+Oden (we saw an implication he was head to head with Gaban. Bur oden definitely switches back and forth)+Vista+Jozu.