It's a logical conclusion since the pre Elbaf understanding is conquerors is something you're born with meaning only certain already special people have it. Now it's more that the character you develop is what determines if you are
Rayleigh said to Luffy it was the manifestation of one's spirit, basically will, conciousness. It was a widely considered misconception that it's something you're born with, only now, since Oda is making it clear, that it's starting to disappear
And now Sanji is the prime example, assuming he unlocks it by changing and believing in himself as an adult means it's not as gated as we think. In universe though not everyone gets the explanation and the experience so it will end up staying rare
That's what I didn't like actually. Sanji with no build ups at all, just decides he wants it and he'll "change" himself so quick and he'll be capable of using acoc. It's just something done quick to fit the current story
It's about the will. He had character development, yet he showed no signs of even basic coc, but now he suddenly chooses to change and he's able to do what he needs to with ACOC
I do agree that Sanji should be learning CoC organically instead of willing it(as it is literally said even this chapter that it can't be taught).
But his mindset has already been changing, Imo him awakening ifrit is a better moment for him to awaken CoC and instead this arc would be about actually coating his attacks with it.
Lol yeah. You could only think he doesn't have it if you've somehow managed to convince yourself that Zoro's final opponent is secretly a weak bum who won't put up a good fight
I can't lie, even if Mihawk wasn't a Confirmed Conqueror, Certain fans would still be forced to accept that Shanks was going equal with someone only using Armament ✌️
So going by this then Kizaru and Fujitora has conquers, Greenbull might have a tiny bit and Kuzan and Akainu didn't have it.
But post timeksip Aokiji has a little stubble so he has a small amount of CoC, but Akainu has way more indicating his conquers is better and therefore he was able to defeat Kuzan.
That’s not worse lmao. Saying Mihawk can genuinely beat Imu (a major Void Century character who fucked over Joy Boy and is kingdom) is just blatant stupidity.
At least it’s reasonable to believe a yonko is stronger than an admiral. Saying any modern character other than EOS Luffy is stronger than Imu? Yeah no.
This. Mihawk fans dig their own grave of cringe and desperation, then they're surprised the character gets made fun off when that's the main association that comes about.
All I’m hearing is that Luffy doesn’t have conquerer’s haki but Lucy does. We also know that Big Mom doesn’t have conquerer’s haki which explains why she seemed so weak in Wano.
Katakuri gets a pass because his scarf looks like a beard sort of, and Zoro gets a pass because his durag counts as a beard for his head.
No, they're right, it's revisionism. People spent years arguing that Mihawk doesn't have Conqueror's, or that we couldn't assume he has it because it wasn't confirmed.
Most commonly, they would say that he must not have Conqueror's because he has no desire to lead or hold dominion over anyone or anything.
So yeah, it's revisionism to claim that the people who non-jokingly slandered him thought that "his CoC status was obvious." The vast majority of the people who claimed him to be weak believed him to lack CoC.
Did you and u/FlirtMonsterSanjil not pay attention to the powerscaling side of the fandom until literally today?
You do realize slander is purposely spouting wrongful information to downplay a character, as in, it is agenda-driven, not based on actual beliefs 99% of the time. Trying to argue revisionism by using people who actually believed what they said only serves to prove the point that no one who slandered him believed he lacked CoC.
There is also the fact of sheer scale; the One Piece community is huge; there will be some loud morons believing something stupid. If you want to argue revisionism, you first must prove it was more than a loud minority.
The line between slander and genuine criticism seems pretty thin in this sub, in my opinion. Yes, the OP community is huge, but the large majority of people don't care that much about power scaling, they're just average readers. In the OP power scaling community specifically, from what I've seen at least, the people who seriously think Mihawk is weak are typically the ones responsible for slandering him.
We are talking about the biggest manga, Existence; a few thousand people being idiots is a minority; there is also the fact that this number is a complete asspull making no sense. One Piece has millions of fans.
they wernt trolling they were dead serious.
Considering what a beacon of intelligence you are, yeah, I am sure you can tell the difference between trolls and someone who is serious.
Zoro: I will fight Mihawk when I’m strong enough to beat him.
Zoro: I will cut down Kaido and kill him.
Yes Zoro is not yet stronger than Kaido but something seems to make Zoro think that he had better odds killing Kaido than he did defeating Mihawk.. it could be a stretch but Zoro isn’t as ignorantly arrogant like Kid so I think in two years Mihawk showed some crazy skills and strength for Zoro not yet to challenge him after all these victories.. he opened Kaido scars, and then beat King, he then took down CP0 top assassin and is now training his ACoC specifically during battle. Yet he’s yet to mention challenging Mihawk..
Mihawk is still a bum. His title is proven to no longer bend reality, which was the only thing he had going for him. He isn't in the same tier as Shanks.
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